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Ardennes
May 12, 2002

PawParole posted:

Seems like six are deplorable right now and the rest are under repair

https://news.usni.org/2023/06/26/us...ployed%20today.

That is from June, but currently:

4 are underway at the moment
the Nimitz just came back
and 3 carriers are under long-term maintenance

So that is 8 out of 11 accounted for, then you got 3 more that are just docked but the are undergoing more maintenance, training, or minor repairs so they are theoretically deployable but honestly probably are going to need significant notice. The Lincoln has been having some serious issues, and other 2 carriers weren't supposed to deploy until 2024.

The Eisenhower was largely already set to deploy, and the Vinson was pretty much ready as well, but the "2nd line" of carriers would need some time.

Also, the US doesn't want to get into an issue where too many of its carriers are deployed at the same time just from a maintenance perspective, eventually they are all going to have to come home and there is going to be a deficit.

Ardennes has issued a correction as of 03:25 on Oct 19, 2023

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gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy




FWIW everybody here thinks Israel bombed the hospital

Foreign policy isn't a lynchpin of politics but the majority of Filipinos are at the minimum sympathetic with Palestine, and this is driving a rift with the government siding with the US (as Marcos is an American lapdog)

The Voice of Labor
Apr 8, 2020


well, he went to israel to promote some death
excitable boy, they all said
applauded genocide, called it self defense
excitable boy, they all said

Gumball Gumption
Jan 7, 2012


We do in all honesty hate this world

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

The Voice of Labor posted:

well, he went to israel to promote some death
excitable boy, they all said
applauded genocide, called it self defense
excitable boy, they all said

Meanwhile Bibi is singing "send missiles, guns and money... the poo poo has hit the fan."

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

mcmagic posted:

Hasan has a socialist member of the knesset on now. I guess this guy is the best you are going to get in Isreali politics.

looks like he's from the christman/zizek school of grooming so i implicitly trust him

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019

Breakfast All Day posted:

the internet makes you souphead

Uncle Wemus
Mar 4, 2004

:smoobles:

FirstnameLastname
Jul 10, 2022

gradenko_2000 posted:





FWIW everybody here thinks Israel bombed the hospital

Foreign policy isn't a lynchpin of politics but the majority of Filipinos are at the minimum sympathetic with Palestine, and this is driving a rift with the government siding with the US (as Marcos is an American lapdog)

told yall he was there i was there and saw him

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.
Bring back slow mode so I can keep up with this thread.

I'm still at the glorious moment where Al-Saqr returned.

Malloc Voidstar
May 7, 2007

Fuck the cowboys. Unf. Fuck em hard.
https://twitter.com/IlhanMN/status/1714802306431037758

Ringo Roadagain
Mar 27, 2010

There are basically two ways you can approach the evidence in this hospital case. Either Israel is evil and bombed the hospital on purpose in order to exterminate as many Palestinians as possible because they hate the Palestinians, or Israel does evil in order to establish security over the territory they have claimed, and for their people.

Intentionally bombing the hospital would not help Israel achieve either strategic objective, extermination or security, as the reaction to the explosion has been the establishment of a humanitarian corridor from the Egyptian border, further delays to the potential ground invasion, outrage and instability in the neighboring Arab states, and diplomatic risk to the US-Israel relationship. All of those outcomes could have easily been foreseen if either assumption about the nature of Israel were true, so unless you think there is no rationality to their actions, the likelihood of an intentional attack like this is diminished.

Even if you think Israel both is evil and does evil, they haven't shown themselves to be incapable of rationalizing and achieving their strategic objectives in the past. Consider your orientation on that issue and how your preconceptions influence your willingness to consider the evidence wherever you stand on this horrific incident.- guy who definitely isn’t retarded

Teriyaki Koinku
Nov 25, 2008

Bread! Bread! Bread!

Bread! BREAD! BREAD!

The Oldest Man posted:

What's shocking to me is this guy joined the US State Department thinking this was all going to go down differently somehow

I, too, had ambitions of working in the US State Department. Unlike that guy, though, I got as far as interning in Congress and a lobbying firm in college, saw how hosed the whole situation was and noped out of there.

Fellatio del Toro
Mar 21, 2009


pathetic

Dixon Chisholm
Jan 2, 2020

fly high, falcon

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

https://twitter.com/slobodanchudjak/status/1710828797111816414

Ringo Roadagain
Mar 27, 2010


loving cucked coward

Turdfuzz
Jul 23, 2008


ur supposed to post an opinion agreeing or disagreeing with it so i can be angry at u

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

loooolll

Rubellavator
Aug 16, 2007

PT6A posted:

I simply don't understand how simple-minded you'd have to be to believe that Israel threatened to bomb hospitals, and has bombed hospitals, and threatened to bomb this exact hospital, but somehow when this hospital got bombed it was a weird coincidence and Israel wasn't involved. You'd have to be loving STUPID to believe that line of bullshit. If you're that dumb you should probably be wearing a helmet at all times, and a drool collector wouldn't be a bad choice either.

i'm reeling over the idea that israel's big social media guy is just clueless, like israel doesn't need to lie all the time

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019

blessed

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

FirstnameLastname posted:

told yall he was there i was there and saw him

Are you the horned Biden?

Uncle Wemus
Mar 4, 2004


:pathetic:

Probably Magic
Oct 9, 2012

Looking cute, feeling cute.

her tweet after that is calling for a full investigation, so i'd like to think she isn't just leaving it at, "well, hamas did it!"

30.5 Days
Nov 19, 2006
I feel like this level of cowardice may actually interfere with her reelection?

Uncle Wemus
Mar 4, 2004

Would the idf and us intelligence lie, ilhan?

smoobles
Sep 4, 2014

smoobles posted:

I am going to solve the Israel Palestine conflict

just an update, I wasnt able to crack it. sorry everyone

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

Ringo Roadagain posted:

There are basically two ways you can approach the evidence in this hospital case. Either Israel is evil and bombed the hospital on purpose in order to exterminate as many Palestinians as possible because they hate the Palestinians, or Israel does evil in order to establish security over the territory they have claimed, and for their people.

Intentionally bombing the hospital would not help Israel achieve either strategic objective, extermination or security, as the reaction to the explosion has been the establishment of a humanitarian corridor from the Egyptian border, further delays to the potential ground invasion, outrage and instability in the neighboring Arab states, and diplomatic risk to the US-Israel relationship. All of those outcomes could have easily been foreseen if either assumption about the nature of Israel were true, so unless you think there is no rationality to their actions, the likelihood of an intentional attack like this is diminished.

Even if you think Israel both is evil and does evil, they haven't shown themselves to be incapable of rationalizing and achieving their strategic objectives in the past. Consider your orientation on that issue and how your preconceptions influence your willingness to consider the evidence wherever you stand on this horrific incident.- guy who definitely isn’t retarded

I bet this person believes Hamas decapitated 40 babies

Turdfuzz
Jul 23, 2008

wish i could just go to palestine Caro-style and do heroism

Turdfuzz
Jul 23, 2008

smoobles posted:

just an update, I wasnt able to crack it. sorry everyone

i'll never forgive u but i accept u

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

god drat

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1714812636921991416?s=20

Meanwhile the US congress is still in the grips of chaos with no end in sight.

good

Teriyaki Koinku
Nov 25, 2008

Bread! Bread! Bread!

Bread! BREAD! BREAD!

Laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame.

Malloc Voidstar
May 7, 2007

Fuck the cowboys. Unf. Fuck em hard.

Turdfuzz posted:

wish i could just go to palestine Caro-style and do heroism
you'd end up in israel caro-style

(legal note: as in captured and tortured, like caro in syria)

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



smoobles posted:

just an update, I wasnt able to crack it. sorry everyone

did you try turning it off and back on, and deleting cookies?

Turdfuzz
Jul 23, 2008

Malloc Voidstar posted:

you'd end up in israel caro-style

(legal note: as in captured and tortured, like caro in syria)

actually i'd be a badass like rambo and kick everyone's rear end with my cool crossbow

CODChimera
Jan 29, 2009


lol at how easy it was to dismiss the bombing

Turdfuzz
Jul 23, 2008

i'd show israel what's up

CODChimera
Jan 29, 2009

Turdfuzz posted:

actually i'd be a badass like rambo and kick everyone's rear end with my cool crossbow

im with u

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Ringo Roadagain
Mar 27, 2010

may Allah awaken ilhan omar and help them to see the evil doings of israel and the united states

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