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Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

Death By The Blues posted:

ngl it was weird again seeing all the white americans in this forum kind of throwing their weight behind him when he had numerous credible instances of racism, dude is not a good human being.

nothing will top goons being duped by being too horny for aoc. i miss that era lol

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The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

Tzen posted:

lol this readers context,


It's important that we don't have political censorship in this country

RadiRoot
Feb 3, 2007

Death By The Blues posted:

Zionists are using cartoonishly evil looking machinery to level a refugee camp

https://twitter.com/qudsn/status/1714880622068432931

jfc, looks like something that bj blazkowicz would fight

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
like yeah man we all have that friend that wears shorts and flipflops in the winter, that ain't a reason to make him a senator

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

Ruzihm posted:

anyone post this one yet?



hate this stroked-out oaf

Cuttlefush
Jan 15, 2014

gotta have my purp

gradenko_2000 posted:

It rules blocking everyone on Twitter with a pro-Israel take

It's like cookie clicker

remember cookie clicker grandma? this is her now

🇮🇱🇺🇦🇹🇼🇦🇿

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

Cuttlefush posted:

remember cookie clicker grandma? this is her now



where we're going we don't need eyes to bake

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug

smarxist posted:

like yeah man we all have that friend that wears shorts and flipflops in the winter, that ain't a reason to make him a senator

i just wanted a national level politician that was too large and ogrish to fit inside a standard bathtub or automobile. shame how it all turned out.

Buddykins
Feb 12, 2011

john fetteredman

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

white shrek

Cuttlefush
Jan 15, 2014

gotta have my purp

uber_stoat posted:

i just wanted a national level politician that was too large and ogrish to fit inside a standard bathtub or automobile. shame how it all turned out.

ogreish

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

Mantis42 posted:

white shrek

hard y donkey

fizzy
Dec 2, 2022

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Death By The Blues posted:

ngl it was weird again seeing all the white americans in this forum kind of throwing their weight behind him when he had numerous credible instances of racism, dude is not a good human being.

Inquiring news for Death By The Blues - Is there any male Democrat or Republican politician for whom "he had numerous credible instances of racism, dude is not a good human being" is not a good description?

RadiRoot
Feb 3, 2007

exmarx posted:

hate this stroked-out oaf

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

Death By The Blues posted:

ngl it was weird again seeing all the white americans in this forum kind of throwing their weight behind him when he had numerous credible instances of racism, dude is not a good human being.

He won the nomination thanks to a black congressional leader & the black former president, and ran on a ticket with a black woman & won, months after BLM protests rocked the country (and were subsequently co-opted for votes).

I didn't vote for him (nor am I black) but I can understand why most people did, especially given the year of the covid & the painting of trump as hitler v. 2. And black voters comprised the demographic, above all, that voted for him in the highest percentage.

Clip-On Fedora
Feb 20, 2011

Pobrecito posted:

visiting my conservative boomer dad and he turned on abc world news and I just generally tried to avoid any conversation about the segment on Israel s& the hospital bombing only for my dad to unprompted say “you don’t believe this garbage do you?” before talking about how horrible the Israeli bombing in Gaza was so that was neat :unsmith:

Parents were horrified by Hama’s attack, but they were utterly disgusted by Isreal’s response.

One of my coworkers grumbled about another county getting a billion dollar handout from the government while Americans still get nothing.

A non-PMC Twitter Lib I follow who is a total party loyalist has been retweeting the usual pap he gets from MSNBC about how great the Democrats are, but it’s also mixed in with a lot of retweets supporting Pro-Palestinian protestors demanding peace talks.

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

fizzy posted:

Inquiring news for Death By The Blues - Is there any male Democrat or Republican politician for whom "he had numerous credible instances of racism, dude is not a good human being" is not a good description?

this too

Captain Magic
Apr 4, 2005

Yes, we have feathers--but the muscles of men.

Death By The Blues posted:

Zionists are using cartoonishly evil looking machinery to level a refugee camp

https://twitter.com/qudsn/status/1714880622068432931

gitz don’t even know that they can make it go faster by painting it red

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
doesn't fetterman have big coverup tattoos as well or am i thinking of someone else?

i remember that pinging my sus alarm, i never really sniffed the cat just posted the memes

30.5 Days
Nov 19, 2006
you know I think the "now is not the time to stop killing people" line might not play as well as some of these "progressives" might hope

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
palestine has freed egyptians to protest again after a decade of fear

https://twitter.com/yasmine_hafez/status/1714668834907439405?s=46&t=kY7HKwmb1RBg9U186lxtbg

Lpzie
Nov 20, 2006

lol why are some of you able to faithfully recite the lore of Compete Nobodies on twitter?

Buddykins
Feb 12, 2011

progressive on deez nutz

skipmyseashells
Nov 14, 2020

Homeless Friend posted:

nothing will top goons being duped by being too horny for aoc. i miss that era lol

that was good but nothing will top cspam thinking slurnie kkklanders could win presidency, real jingling keys moment

Death By The Blues
Oct 30, 2011
Tons of raids in the West Bank including the arrest of the co-founder of Hamas and non stop bombing in Gaza. Feels like the next step of this "operation" is beginning.

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

Lpzie posted:

lol why are some of you able to faithfully recite the lore of Compete Nobodies on twitter?

my brain is a steel trap for the most worthless data that will never be of material use to anyone ever, while concepts like discrete math, moderation, and health pass through like neutrinos

Gabagool
Jul 20, 2020

Death By The Blues posted:

Zionists are using cartoonishly evil looking machinery to level a refugee camp

https://twitter.com/qudsn/status/1714880622068432931

that's a metal slug boss

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
mahmoud abbas and the entire fatah organization must be destroyed they are active collaborationists

Buddykins
Feb 12, 2011

hearing reports that hamas has recruited all the wizards from MTG Shandalar

TheLemonOfIchabod
Aug 26, 2008
where is this so called "video” showing that the hospital wasn’t even singed

Buddykins
Feb 12, 2011

and they are on wizard difficulty and the settlers have no land cards to play!!

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007
lol that this is on the front page of a major news org



quote:

Summary

Israel's invasion has no clear exit strategy - sources
Arabs fear Gaza conflict could trigger regional war
Biden cautions Israelis of U.S. mistakes after 9/11

DUBAI/WASHINGTON, Oct 18 (Reuters) - Israel is vowing to wipe out Hamas in a relentless onslaught on the Gaza Strip but has no obvious endgame in sight, with no clear plan for how to govern the ravaged Palestinian enclave even if it triumphs on the battlefield.

Codenamed "Operation Swords of Iron", the military campaign will be unmatched in its ferocity and unlike anything Israel has carried out in Gaza in the past, according to eight regional and Western officials with knowledge of the conflict who declined to be named due to the sensitivity of the matter.

Israel has called up a record 360,000 reservists and has been bombarding the tiny enclave non-stop following Hamas's assault on southern Israel on Oct. 7, which killed about 1,400 people, mostly civilians.

The immediate Israeli strategy, said three regional officials familiar with discussions between the U.S. and Middle Eastern leaders, is to destroy Gaza's infrastructure, even at the cost of high civilian casualties, push the enclave's people towards the Egyptian border and go after Hamas by blowing up the labyrinth of underground tunnels the group has built to conduct its operations.

Israeli officials have said that they don't have a clear idea for what a post-war future might look like, though.

Some of U.S. President Joe Biden's aides are concerned that while Israel may craft an effective plan to inflict lasting damage to Hamas, it has yet to formulate an exit strategy, a source in Washington familiar with the matter said.

Trips to Israel by Secretary of State Antony Blinken and Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin this past week had stressed the need to focus on the post-war plan for Gaza, the source added.

Arab officials are also alarmed that Israel hasn't set out a clear plan for the future of the enclave, ruled by Hamas since 2006 and home to 2.3 million people.

"Israel doesn't have an endgame for Gaza. Their strategy is to drop thousands of bombs, destroy everything and go in, but then what? They have no exit strategy for the day after," said one regional security source.

An Israeli invasion has yet to start, but Gaza authorities say 3,500 Palestinians have already been killed by the aerial bombardment, around a third of them children - a larger death toll than in any previous conflict between Hamas and Israel.

Biden, on a visit to Israel on Wednesday, told Israelis that justice needed to be served to Hamas, though he cautioned that after the 9/11 attacks on New York, the U.S. had made mistakes.

The "vast majority of Palestinians are not Hamas", he said. "Hamas does not represent the Palestinian people."

Aaron David Miller, a Middle East expert at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, said Biden's visit would have given him a chance to press Israeli leader Benjamin Netanyahu to think through issues such as the proportional use of force and the longer-term plans for Gaza before any invasion.

'CITY OF TUNNELS'

Israeli officials, including Netanyahu, have said they will wipe out Hamas in retribution for the attack, the deadliest in Israel's 75-year-old history.

What will follow is less defined.

"We are of course thinking and dealing with this, and this involves assessments and includes the National Security Council, the military and others about the end situation," Israeli National Security Council director Tzachi Hanegbi told reporters on Tuesday. "We don't know what this will be with certainty."

"But what we do know is what there will not be," he said, referring to Israel's stated aim to eradicate Hamas.

This might be easier said than done.

"It's an underground city of tunnels that make the Vietcong tunnels look like child's play," said the first regional source, referring to the Communist guerrilla force that defied U.S. troops in Vietnam. "They're not going to end Hamas with tanks and firepower."

Two regional military experts told Reuters that Hamas' armed wing, the Ezzedine al-Qassam Brigades, has mobilised for an invasion, setting up anti-tank mines and booby-trapped explosive devices to ambush troops.

Israel's coming offensive is set to be much bigger than past Gaza operations that Israeli officials had previously referred to as "mowing the grass", degrading Hamas's military capabilities but not eliminating it.

Israel has fought three previous conflicts with Hamas, in 2008-9, 2012 and 2014, and launched limited land invasions during two of those campaigns, but unlike today, Israel's leaders never vowed to destroy Hamas once and for all.

In those three confrontations, just under 4,000 Palestinians and fewer than 100 Israelis died.

There is less optimism in Washington, though, that Israel will be able to completely destroy Hamas and U.S. officials see little chance that Israel will want to hold onto any Gaza territory or re-occupy it, the U.S. source said.

A more likely scenario, the person said, would be for Israeli forces to kill or capture as many Hamas members as they can, blow up tunnels and rocket workshops, then after Israeli casualties mount, look for a way to declare victory and exit.

CLOUDS OF WAR

The fear across the region is that the war will blow up beyond the confines of Gaza, with Lebanon's Hezbollah and its backer Iran opening major new fronts in support of Hamas.

Iranian Foreign Minister Hossein Amir-Abdollahian warned of a possible "preemptive" action against Israel if it carried out its invasion of Gaza. He said last weekend that Iran would not watch from the sidelines if the U.S. failed to restrain Israel.

Arab leaders have told Blinken, who has been criss-crossing the region this past week, that while they condemn Hamas' attack on Israel, they oppose collective punishment against ordinary Palestinians, which they fear will trigger regional unrest.

Popular anger will ratchet up across the region when the body count rises, they said.

Washington has sent an aircraft carrier strike group to the eastern Mediterranean and is concerned that Hezbollah might join the battle from Israel's northern border. There has been no sign, however, that the U.S. military would then move from a deterrent posture to direct involvement.

The regional sources said Washington was proposing to re-energise the Palestinian Authority (PA), which lost control of Gaza to Hamas in 2007, although there is huge doubt whether the PA or any other authority would be able to govern the coastal enclave should Hamas be driven out.

Miller, a former U.S. Middle East negotiator, expressed deep skepticism about the potential for establishing a post-Hamas government to rule Gaza.

"I could paint you a picture more appropriate to a galaxy far, far away and not on planet Earth on how you could combine the U.N., the Palestinian Authority, the Saudis, the Egyptians, led by the U.S. marshalling the Europeans, to basically convert Gaza from an open-air prison to something much better," he said.

In the meantime, calls for the creation of humanitarian corridors within Gaza and escape routes for Palestinian civilians has drawn a strong reaction from Arab neighbors.

They fear an Israeli invasion will spark a new permanent mass wave of displacement, a replay of the 1948 Israeli war of independence and 1967 Arab-Israeli war. Millions of Palestinians who were forced to flee then have remained stranded as refugees in the countries that hosted them.

East Jerusalem, captured by Israel in the 1967 war and then annexed, and Israeli settlement expansion across occupied territory are at the core of the conflict with Palestinians. Netanyahu has openly embraced the religious and radical far-right, promising to annex more land to be settled by Jews.

Hundreds of Palestinians have died in the West Bank since the start of the year in repeated clashes with Israeli soldiers and settlers, and there is widespread concern that the violence might engulf the territory as nearby Gaza burns.

"Whatever worst-case scenario you have, it will be worse," a second regional source said about the potential for the conflict to spread beyond Gaza.

Homeless Friend has issued a correction as of 07:16 on Oct 19, 2023

tristeham
Jul 31, 2022
john retardman

Clip-On Fedora
Feb 20, 2011

Frosted Flake posted:

lol is this the dementia or the mean, dumb, rear end in a top hat he always was appearing in moments of lucidity?

Why not both?

30.5 Days
Nov 19, 2006

Buddykins posted:

and they are on wizard difficulty and the settlers have no land cards to play!!

getting reports that hamas has card advantage

30.5 Days
Nov 19, 2006
the idf is trying to topdeck the uss eisenhauer to no avail

Buddykins
Feb 12, 2011

lmao

ProfessorBooty
Jan 25, 2004

Amulet of the Dark

PT6A posted:

My weirdly conservative parents are also this way. I suspect it's that, for all their faults, they find genocide distasteful. Which puts them ahead of the entire US and Canadian political class, I suppose.

I was talking about this with my father. He is such a frustrating man. For the past decade and a half I realize I don't talk honestly with my family, instead, I 'manage' the conversation, I fret and stress, trying to know what they are going to say and the exact right thing to attempt to manipulate them into thinking differently in the long term, or, if anything, get them to just let go, because we just have no power.

When I told him that I hate that I have to witness the holocaust, part two, he told me that I sounded like a holocaust denier. I can't believe he would say such a thing. I was trying to manipulate him in the best way I could. I was managing my anger at him, I spent the last two months finding the perfect way to destroy him. I came up with aphorisms and talking points and stopping points and the perfect ways to counter him in every single way. "There is no such thing as a perfect victim", "A belief that cannot manifest an actionable reality is worthless", "You can hear the Truth, you can speak the Truth, but you can't teach the Truth" trying to be wise and poo poo, showing him the perfect counter to his moron rational right wing talking points.

And I thought of a final manipulation. It's evil. He emailed me today with some video from brogger or whatever right wing youtube thing is out there, with some pundit weakly giving the case for noninterference. I emailed him back saying I watched it, and that we should talk.

I know him better than he knows him. He tries to capitulate gently, in his email back to me, saying that he understands how this cycle works, two sides for every conflict, and that he is sorry for what he said.

He told me I sounded like a holocaust denier.

I SOUNDED like a holocaust denier.

I am an emotional manipulator. I try to manipulate the people around me to eliminate conflict. I thought about this thing he said, and the perfect, perfect counter.

I thought of it today, I was so proud. I think about when I decided to cut off the zionist part of my family (It's weird but consistent), and I thought about how my conversation would go with him.

I would say, "Dad, you called me a holocaust denier"

And he will reply, "No, I said you sounded like a holocaust denier"

And I would finally reply to him. The final stab through the chest, "What is the difference." deadpan and silent.

I would tell him that I already know why, but I want to know why he knows why.

I imagine our society a deep deep ocean. In this ocean we swim in lies. As we become less critical, as we think less what, but why, we start swimming deeper. As we go deeper, we need more lies and contradictions to keep us going, to validate that everything is becoming darker. We become more distressed and anxious. The people we listen to give us ways to cope, while impregnating genocide. You go deeper and deeper.

And then you have cancer, and you have little time left, and maybe you are shaken, but you try to stay firm.

Your son stabbed you in the chest. It was perfect. Your son said, "If I may condense, what you just said. Free market economics would work, and would be the best system to run society, but the problem is that not everyone is lacking in Ideals, and these are Libertarian Ideals", and your son knew that it would make you have to swim deeper, deeper into the darkness.

My dad said 'yes', and I knew I was victorious, I created the win/win scenario for me. I finally defeated him in the battle of logic and rationality.

He emailed me today, with an apology, then saying something that I might say to the effect is cycles of violence, how one thing leads to another, and this tends to create two sides.

I email him back, 'We should talk'

And I don't know what to say now, knowing that i am an emotional manipulator.

The worst part of my family is that they gang up with me. During Thanksgiving I eat at the 'kid's' table, because it's so much more fun to see the things they are interested in and not having to pay attention to what I am now is realizing is just a big giant, racist, genocidal way to keep oil prices low to keep this wheezing geriatric of an economy limping.

I don't want to be ganged up on anymore. That's why I made this decision. My mom - - separated for my my dad in the 90's, is long gone. She wrote some incredibly hateful, dreadful, genocidal things on the family signal, while I was trying to manipulate them into maybe even opening an article about both sides just chilling out, or the wikipedia article on the history of palestine. She is so far gone that I can't have her anymore. But maybe that isn't fair.

So I'm not sure what to do. I think maybe I will talk to my dad about how the moment I thought about cutting him off, I was so happy. Suddenly I was sleeping better, I was able to focus better I work, I was able to stop watching this thread for an hour or so, so I could get things done. I was waking up before my alarm, I wasn't snoozing my alarm. I wasn't taking my afternoon ephedrine pill.

The reason my dad said I SOUNDED like a holocaust denier, is to protect himself. But I emotionally manipulated myself, and I know that know. I look back at myself, and that person thought, 'My dad said that, to protect himself from the pain to call his son a holocaust denier'. What if, instead, I should say, 'My dad said that to protect me from the pain of him calling me a holocaust denier'.

So maybe there is a chance. One last chance as I squeeze tears from my eyes and wish that in the horrors of all my life, it wouldn't be a holocaust after holocaust after holocaust after holocaust until we are finally scratching at the dirt with sticks.

Maybe my dad will learn what it means to reach the bottom.

The bottom is where the lies cease. The next lie doesn't get you further. You are going to die and you realize you were absent from your family. Ashamed that you were successful, maybe, but money is what is important - get the right investments, live frugally. You know that you will never be a good dad, but you can do something. Your son knows this, because your son remembers when you said something to the effect of, 'Everyone wants to have an inheritance for their children',.

I clung on to that and realized why he was gone and probably felt so ashamed that his youngest, the ones who just happened to be born Millennial, had such a hard time compared to their sisters who were just a few years older than them. We were Millennials and he divorced in the 90's, a double whammy of generational division. Maybe I am too presumptive, but I want to think his mask slipped.

And that is his final lie, the one that his children will inherit something more valuable than he has to provide as a father. When I think about this, finally. Writing this out. This whole thing has been stream of thought. I realize he hit the bottom of this ocean of lies several years ago. He's in darkness now, with cancer, and doesn't know the way up, that's why he is so stubborn, but also so liberal, and easy to manipulate.

And I want to give him another chance. But that means I have to give my mom another chance.

But my dad is a genocide denier.

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a helpful bear
Aug 18, 2004

Slippery Tilde

Homeless Friend posted:

nothing will top goons being duped by being too horny for aoc. i miss that era lol

dudes are dumb trash idiots and sometimes that backfires

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Death By The Blues
Oct 30, 2011
I mean right now it feels like their plan is very intentionally creating unsanitary conditions for multiple disease outbreaks ie modern smallpox blankets to reduce the population.

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