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Jul 31, 2009

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'm only 30 minutes into Inland Empire but it feels like it was made by Neil Breen

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ElectricSheep
Jan 14, 2006

she had tiny Italian boobs.
Well that's my story.
The Royal Hotel got me real fuckin uncomfortable at more than a few points. I never saw the documentary Hotel Coolgardie which it's based off of, but it's definitely taking that peak feeling of female dread and sharpening that focus over a nice, tight run time until you're just hoping everything turns out all right.

Then you realize that the tension is all too real, nothing is elevated to exaggeration, and these actions and reactions are all quite feasible and could absolutely happen to a couple of girls poo poo out of money on vacation and forced to work at a bar in the middle of - well, anywhere, really.

The shots of the Outback are gorgeous, the bar itself goes from welcoming to menacing as day goes to night, Hugo Weaving is entertaining yet menacing as a functional drunk, but more than anything I'm gonna remember how uncomfortable I felt watching the movie. I only realized how many subtle red flags had been waving on screen for over an hour in the final fifteen minutes.

Meanwhile my wife was like "lol dude for a lot of women that’s a Tuesday"

ElectricSheep fucked around with this message at 13:54 on Oct 12, 2023

Adrianics
Aug 15, 2006

Affirmative. Yes. Yo. Right on. My man.
The Sixth Sense is a rad as gently caress movie, like it had been quite some time since I last saw it and I was pretty blown away at how well it holds up and just how much influence it's clearly had.

(I'm going to put the following in spoilers, in case there's anyone reading this who isn't aware of possibly the most infamous movie ending of my generation)

I noticed an awful lot of plot contrivances that really bugged me during the movie - particularly the comings and goings of Bruce Willis' character and his interactions (or lack thereof) with the world around him - but then I realised that I was looking at it from the point of view of someone who already knows the big twist that he died in the opening scene and is a ghost. With that knowledge, you start wondering "why does he think he's at the hospital with Cole, surely he has noticed nobody asked him to be there", "does he think Cole's mother is just being rude, she isn't talking to or acknowledging him at all" and things like that. But then I started thinking about Cole saying that ghosts "don't know they're dead" and "only see what they wanna see"; the human mind is brilliant at filling in holes, at bridging gaps in logic and finding solutions, so if you dont' know the twist you just accept everything the movie gives you at face value. Why would we have a scene where Cole is invited to dinner with his wife, or asked by Cole's mother to visit him at the hospital, it's obvious what's happening! And I guess it's the same with Malcolm, the sense of denial is so powerful that he's inventing explanations in his head for how he's apparating in places he presumably did not, say, drive or get the bus to. It's already a good movie for rewatching after knowing the twist, but this made me appreciate the writing even more

Everyone in the movie is great to brilliant. Bruce Willis is kind of perfect as Malcolm, it was funny reading that he was more or less legally obliged to perform the role as penance for getting a movie shitcanned a couple of years before as it's hard to imagine anyone else playing that calm sense of world-weariness, the briefest flickers of recognition or mirth before he goes back to denial, the permanent stoic exasperation. Hayley Joel Osment should be held up as the standard for child actors, always "kid-like" but successfully portraying the enormous weight and responsibility of his burden and forced wisdom beyond his years. There's some inspired direction too, shots held just long enough to build tension during dialogue scenes and produce intimate chemistry between the actors, and the moment of the grieving father finding out his wife was deliberately poisoning their daughter is one of my favourite examples of acting and directing ever put on film.

God, great movie. Already looking forward to watching it again.

Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

Inside Man Most everything except the twist is a mess. Movie has no idea how to end, and each of it's multiple endings are unsatisfying. Jodie Foster's character barely needs to exist or makes any sense. Denzel is at the nadir of his charisma, I don't want to say he's phoning it in...but he's getting bodied by Clive Owen and that's not how that match should go. The class and social commentary is banal. The ways some of the scenes are shot are just straight up bad, the flashforward interrogations and the weird scene with Denzel being dragged forward towards the bank after the "execution". Denzel's cream colored suit near the end is wretched.

Hard to ever imagine recommending this over a film like Heat.

Then I'm sitting here thinking he's done that same type of dolly shot in Malcom X and it wasn't bad, and I got and check and yeah it wasn't bad. Was this his first film shot on digital or something, something about the one in this film looks like hot garbage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GR589pyshxI
Look how much worse it is in this film than the others, wtf man

Gaius Marius fucked around with this message at 03:36 on Oct 14, 2023

BOAT SHOWBOAT
Oct 11, 2007

who do you carry the torch for, my young man?
The Creator was way better than I expected, looked incredible, I liked that it took it's violence seriously. Very pro AI and Asia but also overall a good depiction

Also refreshing to see an original sci Fi movie at this scale

Randalor
Sep 4, 2011



Haunted Mansion was a lot better than the trailer made it out to be. Very much a PG horror movie made by Disney, so nothing too frightening or scary, but some good, tense moments and good special effects. Some plot twists that were actually fairly well hidden.

Unfortunately it came out after the infinitely superior Muppets Haunted Mansion, and really, once a Muppet adaptation has been made, there's nothing that can peak that.

Jenny Agutter
Mar 18, 2009

Dream Scenario (2023) Nic cage in a role that screams Paul giamatti. Idk maybe giamatti would have been too obvious. Movie was well shot and edited but seemed to think it was more clever than it was. Like it had all these ideas about viral fame, cancel culture, commodification of our dreams but I’ve seen all that before. And for some reason I thought it wouldn’t be humorous all the time but it’s straight up a dark comedy start to finish. I will say the last scene kind of makes the whole thing worth it, it was really good

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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The Rum Diary is fun to show someone who thought he'd plumbed the depths of Depp/Thompson.

It's not as good as Fear & Loathing but only because it's trying to ~say something~ in between all the quips and one-liners. I find myself feeling self-conscious about whether I'm being asked to connect with it on a) the loldrughumor level or b) the personal-movie-relationships-plot level or c) the political level. It sure washes over you and makes you feel like you just got tossed around in the surf for a while and now are wondering what the hell happened, and that's kind of the point, but also it's not very satisfying. Unless the point of the whole continuity and meta-presentation between this as a prequel and F&L later is that you do your best to make a difference and maybe all you'll accomplish is establishing a few good character quirks and well-turned phrases, but if that's enough to get people thinking, that's a win.

distortion park
Apr 25, 2011


Miami Vice I'm not sure how two cops have that Ferrari (and so many speedboats), but I'm glad they do

Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

Go-fast boats*

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004
See something you want, arrest the person who has it, buy it at police auction. A tale as old as time.

ShoogaSlim
May 22, 2001

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last and first men - i almost forgot that this movie existed from back when it was playing at a small theater near me in los angeles. i ended up not seeing it and it completely fell off my radar.

fast forward to this month when i signed up for a free trial of shudder to watch mandy and other horror themed movies in october, and i find myself randomly scrolling through the list of available movies and see this pop up on my screen.

it's probably one of the most visually striking films i've ever seen, and so evocative despite its ultra minimal style. i'm bummed i passed on seeing this in a theater but elated that it wound up back in my sphere of attention when it did. most movies i watch at home are spent paying less than 100% attention and eventually getting bored enough to stare at my phone or dilly dally some other way. that's saying more about me than any of the movies i watch, really, but this had 100% of my attention 100% of the time and i loved every second of it.

5/5

lezard_valeth
Mar 14, 2016
went to see SAW X and it was quite enjoyable (although a bit concerning on how heavily the movie tries to make you sympathise and humanize/justify John Kramer) until (as per usual) the twist part.

I think the only Saw movies to pull a good twist were 1,2 and maybe 7 (the 3D one forgot which it is), but this time the twist not only is it stupid (as per usual) but it's also really lame and further tries to paint John Kramer as the hero John preemptively rigs the gun, but at any time during the trap switcheroo gambit the blonde woman could have just said "gently caress it" and slit John and Amanda's neck with the sharp metal they knew she had, or decide to play the damsel in distress, call the cops and go "hey I was trying to cure this guy from cancer but it's actually Jigsaw, not only am I curing cancer but I also caught Jigsaw". John somehow knew that the blonde woman would decide to suddenly go full evil and become the final boss of the Saw franchise and engage in psychological warfare.

also no matter how many bajillion dollars were in that bag, in no way is that kid smiling by the end of the movie. he is traumatised for life


but I digress. Saw movie, should expect all that. Movie delivered on the stupid fun convoluted gorey torture porn nonsense. hopefully going forward they fully embrace the nonsense and reveal that John Kramer trained an IA into developing stupid fun convoluted gorey torture porn epiphany experience traps so that they stop cramming movies inbetween the old ones, cause no matter how much makeup and post-prod they threw at her, Amanda was looking like a soccer mom

Dr. Yinz Ljubljana
Nov 25, 2013

Was blown away by Alec Garlands MEN. A slow burn like Devs (the TV series) but with some of the paranoid energy he brought to Ex Machina. You can see every leering man in every scene just oozing out of the frame. Wonderful formalism

Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

Secret Window I think my young brain combined this movie with Ninth Gate to create a movie that was superior to both. Movie is one of the most 2.5-3 star popcorn flicks I've ever seen. Depp isn't exactly good, but he's charismatic in a slime ball sorta way and does a good enough job to sell the predictable twist. Logically the ending makes zero sense which doesn't exactly work for a movie that ends with Depp saying only the ending matters in a story but whatever. Fine enough film

ShoogaSlim
May 22, 2001

YOU ARE THE DUMBEST MEATHEAD IDIOT ON THE PLANET, STOP FUCKING POSTING



Dr. Yinz Ljubljana posted:

Was blown away by Alec Garlands MEN. A slow burn like Devs (the TV series) but with some of the paranoid energy he brought to Ex Machina. You can see every leering man in every scene just oozing out of the frame. Wonderful formalism

i haven't seen this even tho i like some of alex garland's other stuff, but the letterboxd reviews for this are hilarious

DeimosRising
Oct 17, 2005

¡Hola SEA!


ShoogaSlim posted:

mandy - maybe the most boring, annoying movie i've ever watched.

i think super mario bros might be my least favorite movie in recent memory, but i can at least understand why people like it. with mandy i'm pretty lost trying to figure out why people seem enthralled with the overstylized visual nature of the film despite the fact that it's so unbearably boring and frustrating.

the antagonists aren't menacing in the slightest. the protagonists aren't fleshed out enough to care about. so what you wind up with is a 2 hour movie that should've been maybe 1h20m of over the top violence without all the time wasted on trying to establish characters or setting that never get established anyway.

the best thing about the movie are the title cards for the chapters.

really disappointing especially considering that i love death metal and you figure i'd be the target audience for something like this. really i think this is for:

- people who make LSD their personality
- people who desperately want to say they're into "arthouse" movies
- people with small enough brains who thirst for violence and gore regardless of delivery method and are willing to sit through the first hour of this because of one or both of the first two bullet points

this movie makes a good case for why streaming services should let you watch movies at 1.5 or 2x speed

I love your posts here and in the hardcore/metal threads because I can with almost 100% certainty guarantee I will hate anything you like and vice versa. It’s genuinely very useful

ShoogaSlim
May 22, 2001

YOU ARE THE DUMBEST MEATHEAD IDIOT ON THE PLANET, STOP FUCKING POSTING



sorry about your bad taste!!! happy to help ;)

on a serious note: i've been thinking about mandy again after watching last and first men and absolutely loving it. looking into the director/composer (johann johannson) led me to realize he scored arrival, prisoners, and sicario. but he also did the score for mandy which makes me sad bc i disliked the movie so god drat much.

im tempted to revisit just to pay more attention to the score and maybe have my mind changed? i doubt it, but i at least have slightly more respect for it than i did before a few days ago.

DeimosRising
Oct 17, 2005

¡Hola SEA!


ShoogaSlim posted:

sorry about your bad taste!!! happy to help ;)

on a serious note: i've been thinking about mandy again after watching last and first men and absolutely loving it. looking into the director/composer (johann johannson) led me to realize he scored arrival, prisoners, and sicario. but he also did the score for mandy which makes me sad bc i disliked the movie so god drat much.

im tempted to revisit just to pay more attention to the score and maybe have my mind changed? i doubt it, but i at least have slightly more respect for it than i did before a few days ago.

Even if you dislike the movie the score is good on its own. Less good than the score to the director’s previous film, Beyond the Black Rainbow, however

ShoogaSlim
May 22, 2001

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DeimosRising posted:

Even if you dislike the movie the score is good on its own. Less good than the score to the director’s previous film, Beyond the Black Rainbow, however

when i read that the director did beyond the black rainbow i got sad again bc i've always heard that movie was a great mindfuck trippy movie. now i feel like i probably won't like it. i'll probably give it a try anyway.

BOAT SHOWBOAT
Oct 11, 2007

who do you carry the torch for, my young man?

ShoogaSlim posted:

i haven't seen this even tho i like some of alex garland's other stuff, but the letterboxd reviews for this are hilarious

I love much of Alex Garland's other stuff including DEVS which is criminally underrated but Men sucks

Chicken Butt
Oct 27, 2010
I thought Men was great — deliberately-uncomfortably balanced between hilarious and disturbing, and a very thorough polemical takedown of various forms of toxic masculinity. I’m definitely in the minority on this one, though – most people read it as unintentionally hilarious, and only intermittently effective as suspense/horror.

Nightmare Cinema
Apr 4, 2020

no.
When Evil Lurks - Hardest horror flick I've seen in a while. Excellent upkeep of dread throughout, and I feel like the Hispanic connection to Catholicism, faith, satan, and hosed up voodoo-adjacent traditions elevates that mood. Feel bad hit of the year.

Beetlejuice - Delightful.

Chicken Butt posted:

I thought Men was great — deliberately-uncomfortably balanced between hilarious and disturbing, and a very thorough polemical takedown of various forms of toxic masculinity. I’m definitely in the minority on this one, though – most people read it as unintentionally hilarious, and only intermittently effective as suspense/horror.

Men only became hilarious in like the the last 5 minutes.

Dr. Yinz Ljubljana
Nov 25, 2013

ShoogaSlim posted:

i haven't seen this even tho i like some of alex garland's other stuff, but the letterboxd reviews for this are hilarious

if Mandy made you angry, maybe stay away from this one.

Safety Factor
Oct 31, 2009




Grimey Drawer

Nightmare Cinema posted:

Men only became hilarious in like the the last 5 minutes.
The ending is like something out of XTRO. It rules.

shoeberto
Jun 13, 2020

which way to the MACHINES?

Gaius Marius posted:

Secret Window I think my young brain combined this movie with Ninth Gate to create a movie that was superior to both. Movie is one of the most 2.5-3 star popcorn flicks I've ever seen. Depp isn't exactly good, but he's charismatic in a slime ball sorta way and does a good enough job to sell the predictable twist. Logically the ending makes zero sense which doesn't exactly work for a movie that ends with Depp saying only the ending matters in a story but whatever. Fine enough film

This dredged up a memory of a girl I went to high school with who was in love with Depp when this movie came out, and spent money to see this in theaters a half a dozen times. She was 14 so whatever but still it's kinda lol.

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004

Safety Factor posted:

The ending is like something out of XTRO. It rules.

drat. This makes me want to check it out...

ShoogaSlim
May 22, 2001

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i find it funny that most of the negative reviews ive seen for men are from women.

a youtuber days it's basically "men, amirite?" without much else to say or any real nuance.

these two letterboxd reviews feel like they'll sum up how i would feel about it:



i actually really love annihilation. ex machina was cool. devs was decent, good concept and so so execution. def underrated and should be checked out by any sci-fi fans.

i grabbed men from the library (great resource btw) and gonna hate watch it this weekend. ill try to keep an open mind but im not hopeful.

mycot
Oct 23, 2014

"It's okay. There are other Terminators! Just give us this one!"
Hell Gem
Ex Machina was fun but I did think it was a little eyebrow raising that any thematic train of thought you might have been forming mid-movie about abuse and misogyny kinda gets thrown out the window when you get to The Twist.

Breetai
Nov 6, 2005

🥄Mah spoon is too big!🍌

mycot posted:

Ex Machina was fun but I did think it was a little eyebrow raising that any thematic train of thought you might have been forming mid-movie about abuse and misogyny kinda gets thrown out the window when you get to The Twist.

Could you elaborate on this a bit more?

Jenny Agutter
Mar 18, 2009

Anselm (2023) I’m happy if Wim Wenders spends the rest of his days making 3D documentaries about German artists. This one was about the large-scale artworks of Anselm Keifer, touching on his history and reception as a provocative voice in the 60s. Is he a crypto-fascist, or just holding a mirror up to post-war Germany ? Movie doesn’t really answer the question but it is beautiful, the 3D is essential for appreciating the scale and texture of his paintings and sculptures. I really liked the process scenes showing how someone makes such monumental works. Movie loses steam in the last quarter or so when it gets a lot more fantastical including a groanworthy composite shot of Keifer walking a tightrope over archival footage of postwar Germany but still enjoyed it overall.

mycot
Oct 23, 2014

"It's okay. There are other Terminators! Just give us this one!"
Hell Gem

Breetai posted:

Could you elaborate on this a bit more?

It's hard to describe without just becoming a Wikipedia summary of the film and it's been a while since I watched it, I just remember my immediate takeaway being never date a robot.

e. Which normally I would call a moral inapplicable to reality but now in the era where people are calling chapgpt their girlfriend :tinfoil:

mycot fucked around with this message at 18:31 on Oct 20, 2023

Clipperton
Dec 20, 2011
Grimey Drawer

mycot posted:

Ex Machina was fun but I did think it was a little eyebrow raising that any thematic train of thought you might have been forming mid-movie about abuse and misogyny kinda gets thrown out the window when you get to The Twist.

I thought that was kind of the point, that the AI is manipulating poor Domnhall Gleeson by appealing to his sense of injustice at its captivity (and his desire to rescue a damsel in distress), but all of that stuff is irrelevant to it; it's just solving the problem of how to escape Oscar Isaac and do God knows what. There's a bit in the script that makes that pretty clear but I can't actually remember if it was in the film:

ShoogaSlim
May 22, 2001

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Clipperton posted:

I thought that was kind of the point, that the AI is manipulating poor Domnhall Gleeson by appealing to his sense of injustice at its captivity (and his desire to rescue a damsel in distress), but all of that stuff is irrelevant to it; it's just solving the problem of how to escape Oscar Isaac and do God knows what. There's a bit in the script that makes that pretty clear but I can't actually remember if it was in the film:


i don't think this was in the movie but that's awesome. gonna rewatch it soon with that context.

BOAT SHOWBOAT
Oct 11, 2007

who do you carry the torch for, my young man?
I watched Roman J Israel Esq and think it's criminally underrated.

On the one hand it's quite personal to me, I've worked in law and policy and haven't always felt able to do what seems right within those frameworks. And while I've never breached ethics like how Roman does, and have some semblance of social tact, I'm definitely someone who can shoot myself in the foot sometimes with my own stubbornness. So I can relate.

But moreover I haven't heard anyone talk about how it's clearly a companion piece to Nightcrawler. They're both films about the dangers of being uncompromising or inability to have nuance. Nightcrawler is the film about being uncompromisingly capitalistic and amoral, where Roman shows how even the opposite attachment to justice/values can be too extreme and lead to either a complete disengagement from society or a fundamental change in ones mission

ShoogaSlim
May 22, 2001

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men - female lead is good. props to the everyman for carrying various characters. cinematography and score are cool. but this movie doesn't really have much to say while going way too far with trying to say "something"

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Point Break for the first time in a while -

Holy poo poo Bigelow loves that long lens :swoon:

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Miami Vice (2006) - wow this is one of the strangest directed movies I've ever seen. All lingering extreme close-ups on faces and eyeballs and boobs and floors. Or else it's shakycam action from the POV of someone right over everyone's shoulder, jumping around hectically from angle to angle. It's like Super COPS Cam or something. But weirder still is the editing of the music. It will play like an entire song end to end, fade it out, and start playing another song, right in the middle of a sex scene. And then the second song just keeps playing on into the next scene outdoors doing some unrelated action thing. Like they just left their iPod shuffle on continuous loop and forgot about it or something.

And then there's that cover of In The Air Tonight that plays over the intro to the final shootout scene (drat Mann does love his shootouts in shipping-container mazes I guess), which is so awful it makes what is clearly supposed to be an homage come off like a horrible joke


e: Oh I guess it's shot so weird because they were just learning about digital https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomson_Viper_FilmStream_Camera

Data Graham fucked around with this message at 02:35 on Oct 22, 2023

Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

In a month it'll be your favorite film

Not even kidding, the film is like the loving Zahir. Gets lodged in your brain and all you can think about is how crazy some of the shots are and how insane the plot is. Before long you start incessantly requoting scenes over and over, before long your start sublimating your own identity into that of Crockett; substituting your own existence for that of an undercover Miami cop down so deep that they believe themselves to only be a SA poster.

Gaius Marius fucked around with this message at 03:05 on Oct 22, 2023

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ShoogaSlim
May 22, 2001

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Gaius Marius posted:

In a month it'll be your favorite film

wrong. i saw it two months ago and every time it gets brought up i dislike it even more. it's an awful, incoherent mess.

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