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smackfu posted:But I don’t think this has much to do with Trump since he’s not going to ever get a financial penalty of “owes a billion dollars.” I wouldn’t expect any sanctions against the Trump org to end up with him living in a shack down by the river. Don't he and his children and his accountants already have the financial penalty of "can never again operate or serve on the board of a non-profit corporation and their existing one is dissolved and all its assets given away to charity", and are in the process of getting the financial penalty of "can never again operate or serve on the board of a for-profit corporation and all their existing ones are dissolved and all their assets (like Mar-a-Lago and Trump Tower) sold off to pay creditors and fines"?
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Watching CNN Sidney Powell has flipped. Took a misdemeanor plea deal in exchange for testimony.
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Holy poo poo! https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/19/politics/sidney-powell-fulton-county-georgia-2020-election-subversion
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Deteriorata posted:Watching CNN This is a very big deal. We will see more flipping soon, I'm guessing.
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Wonder how long the Cheese is gonna hold on now that Crackers broke. I’m just assuming Trump is making GBS threads bricks like he’s playing a euro game.
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Xiahou Dun posted:Wonder how long the Cheese is gonna hold on now that Crackers broke.
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She managed to finally release the Kraken. She was the Kraken, and releasing it means probation.
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Deteriorata posted:Watching CNN Krakens are well known for preferring to remain unleashed.
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SirFozzie posted:She managed to finally release the Kraken. She was the Kraken, and releasing it means probation. Honestly, her life is ruined and I'm okay with that. She's going to be financially obliterated by dominion, and she's now a convict which means her license is probably poo poo (not that she could do much with it anyways). Having her testifying against the rest of the goon squad is a trade I am willing to make since she's already hosed six ways to Sunday.
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Her only path forward in life is crying on right-wing conspiracy shows about how the Feds forced her to confess
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Caros posted:Honestly, her life is ruined and I'm okay with that. She's going to be financially obliterated by dominion, and she's now a convict which means her license is probably poo poo (not that she could do much with it anyways). Oh, knowing the range of things that she's facing already, I am perfectly fine with Powell not going to jail. I want the head of the (Orangeman) snake, and just about anything to get said head (through the laws) will be worth it to me.
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I mean, prison is awful and I wouldn't wish it on anyone. She's done criminal defense so she knows how bad it is. (Yes, I don't even want Trump jailed. I want him *committed*. But I'll take what I can get.)
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Pants Donkey posted:Her only path forward in life is crying on right-wing conspiracy shows about how the Feds forced her to confess Ah, the Mike Flynn. Also, because I just about died laughing, I wanted to share the cope with you fine folks. https://twitter.com/Techno_Fog/status/1715014084947489017?t=X88_rIOs8c09MycWN6gTPg&s=19 Caros fucked around with this message at 16:36 on Oct 19, 2023 |
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Caros posted:Ah, the Mike Flynn. That is the most absurd spin I could have imagined. She’s not fully cooperating with the DA in exchange for probation. No, the crooked DA dropped all charges before trial because of shenanigans. Edit: there is some reporting that Chesebro rejected a similar deal. Also, did McAfee rule on the 1st amendment claims yet? I assume he must have if Powell doesn’t think the case will be dismissed. Also also, how does this intersect with her being an unindicted coconspirator in the DC case? I assume all the evidence and testimony provided here can be subpoenaed or otherwise acquired by Smith? Murgos fucked around with this message at 16:53 on Oct 19, 2023 |
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How exactly does RWM go about spinning Powell flipping and admitting to the crimes. Either way the grift seems to be falling apart really fast this week and just not seeing where they recover frlm it all.
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"the deep state got to her" It doesn't have to be rational
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Murgos posted:That is the most absurd spin I could have imagined. My understanding is that he tossed out most of the first amendment stuff this week. I know he tossed Cheesebro's first amendment claims yesterday. My guess is that she was waiting to see if any of her hail Mary 'oh Rico doesn't count' crap worked and then saw the writing on the wall that she would be going to prison for years if she didn't plea. I'm curious if the cheese boy goes at this point. He has strong true believer vibes.
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https://www.youtube.com/live/bHTz__OGYVo?si=qY4vqwTauKI320CR By gawd there's tapes
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Rust Martialis posted:https://www.youtube.com/live/bHTz__OGYVo?si=qY4vqwTauKI320CR I have to say I admire the transparency in Georgia courts. I also can't shake the feeling that McAfee is actually just Marc Evan Jackson moonlighting as a judge.
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Obviously the deep state killed the real Sydney Powell and replaced her with a clone
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Froghammer posted:Obviously the deep state killed the real Sydney Powell and replaced her with a clone The clone seems like a better person. Good job deep state!
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Pants Donkey posted:Her only path forward in life is crying on right-wing conspiracy shows about how the Feds forced her to confess Doubt they’d pick up her up, since they’d see her as a traitor. But those in desperate need of attention (Alex Jones?) might stan her.
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I think some of the voting machine stuff Powell was charged with was pretty hard to defend, especially once the bail bondsman guy flipped and would testify what she said and did. The charges besides the RICO one.
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BTW, speaking of Alex Jones earlier in the thread and his consequences, the judge tossed his idea that he could get rid of his entire judgement against him in bankruptcy. (Note: This doesn't mean it might not get REDUCED, because "reckless" judgements CAN be reduced in bankruptcy, while willfull and malicious behavior ones can't be. The judge may have to rule as to how much of his activity (and thus the judgement) was just reckless instead of malicious. Personally, I would rule that anything after he was shown that the charges he was making was false was malicious, but that's why I'm not (but should be) a judge  https://www.reuters.com/legal/alex-jones-cant-avoid-sandy-hook-verdicts-bankruptcy-judge-2023-10-19/
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Wonder if Trump will get charged in Michigan now? Michigan AG drops charges against fake GOP elector after he agrees to cooperate https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/19/politics/michigan-fake-elector-deal
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Eight felonies down to everything dismissed. Either he has some things to say or they didn’t like the odds of getting a verdict against a 76-year-old. Or a little of both.
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Add "Destruction of Evidence," "Obstruction of Justice," and possibly "Perjury" to the charges in the Trump fraud trial: It now seems clear why Allen Weisselberg's testimony ended quote:Last week, Allen Weisselberg's testimony in the New York attorney general's civil fraud trial against Donald Trump, Weisselberg himself and others abruptly ended. And while the fact of that ending was easily observable, the why was not.
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Basically, Lol and LMAO Just increasing levels of Trump is utterly hosed
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Is anyone part of Ye Gleet Flipping from Philly? Flip-a-delphia writes itself at that point, I feel.
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SpeakSlow posted:Is anyone part of Ye Gleet Flipping from Philly? https://youtube.com/shorts/Ems4nOpynYU?si=ujkEKEq_nQbMLiMB (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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I'm looking forward to the LegalEagle run down of a lot of this stuff. It's hard to hold on to the throughlines for a noob, especially with so many different cases all at once. lol
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mutata posted:I'm looking forward to the LegalEagle run down of a lot of this stuff. It's hard to hold on to the throughlines for a noob, especially with so many different cases all at once. So many crimes!
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Many prosecutors are saying this.
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Ynglaur posted:So many crimes! I see you Evans.
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mutata posted:I'm looking forward to the LegalEagle run down of a lot of this stuff. It's hard to hold on to the throughlines for a noob, especially with so many different cases all at once. An excellent resource is lawfare: https://www.lawfaremedia.org/current-projects/the-trump-trials Their legal analysis is pretty much top notch and includes multiple lawyers who practice or practiced at very high levels (prosecutors, counsel for major government orgs, even at least one former OLC member and a former WH Counsel) or are law professors and even their 'fake' lawyers are mostly people who have legal degrees and just don't practice. They do weekly podcasts that run down all the weeks happenings and maintain a calendar of upcoming trial dates.
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Not sure about the source on this, but throwing it out anyways https://themessenger.com/politics/trump-gag-order-blatant-violation-judge-engoron quote:Manhattan judge tore into former President Donald Trump on Friday for failing to delete a post attacking his clerk on his campaign page, weeks after the imposition of a gag order.
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Kale posted:How exactly does RWM go about spinning Powell flipping and admitting to the crimes. Either way the grift seems to be falling apart really fast this week and just not seeing where they recover frlm it all. but, if i had to guess, and i do, i think she's a direct link to rudy. like they have evidence of rudy saying "do crimes" to her, and possibly "trump loves when you do crimes". anyone else would be too "professional" to work with obvious loon powell. but they have so much poo poo on rudy (he was always way too arrogant to really try to hide his scumbaggery,) she's basically a pinata stuffed with jail time for rudy. and it's rico. the rightwing narrative will be eventually "trump was set up by his lawyers" and this is just another piece of that puzzle. trump didn't want to do crimes, there was never any evidence he said "do crimes". his lawyers concocted a scheme to do crimes and he was too innocent and trusting
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