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Zero VGS posted:Why would you pay $14 for that... especially before this ad-blocker-blocker poo poo? Because it also includes the YouTube Music app and a lot of my YouTube consumption is on my iPhone
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The automatic pausing and scroll-stopping even after uBlocking the anti ad blocker ad seems to have vanished. For now...
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Oct 19, 2023 16:27
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Lol when adults have an iPhone
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Oct 19, 2023 16:37
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Khanstant posted:Lol when adults have an iPhone teehee  (this post brought to you by samsung phone, though it had to be retyped like 8 times)
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Oct 19, 2023 16:40
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dr_rat posted:Just installed opera, turned on the default ad blocker went to youtube without signing in and no ad's or messages, or pauses before a video starts. Playlists works as well. opera is owned by a chinese mega corp. at least be patriot and only let native companies data mine you. also opera's weird gamer branding is dumb and cringe
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Oct 19, 2023 16:42
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80 something unsolicited requests on startup ftw
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Oct 19, 2023 16:45
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Lol remember when internet companies were threatening to start charging for bandwidth used, but had to back off when they realized the house of cards comes tumbling down if people are forced to start being vigilant over ads, bs, and all the unrequested data sent around.
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Khanstant posted:Lol when adults have an iPhone this
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Space Kablooey posted:brainwashing is a bit hyperbolic but i don't know what to say to you if you don't think that the more you get exposed to ads, the more inclined you are to buy the thing presented in the ad yeah, it's not even that it hypnotizes you or anything like that; but it plants the name of the product in your brain so that when you're in a store, you're more likely to grab it on the shelf over other products simply because it's the one you've heard of. brand recognition works by just shoving ads at you until familiarity is bred.
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Just Another Lurker posted:I had to give up on Twitch for the time being, ads all the time atm.
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Oct 19, 2023 17:03
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McDonald's advertiser execs should follow Lowtax's example!!!
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Oct 19, 2023 17:23
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you can geofence competitors so their customers end up getting drawn to your product instead which is pretty funny. but at the same time i also think marketers and advertisers should burn in hell
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TACD posted:There's a Firefox extension that works great for me Oh lovely, installed! Much appreciated. 
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Khanstant posted:Just punch the loving monkey pay your dues Nope. These are not my "dues" to pay. Youtube has a problem coming up with revenue, Youtube can pick themselves up by the bootstraps and figure it out. Not my problem.
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Oct 19, 2023 19:42
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I’ve been using a hosts file blocker tweak on my checkra1n jailbroken iPhone 8 and haven’t had any issues at all. And that’s in addition to having uYou installed, which also acts as an ad blocker. Total impunity, likely because I’m also stuck on v17.40.5 of the app and can’t even download whatever new version they implemented to deal with ad blockers on the client side.
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Oct 19, 2023 19:43
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:Nope. These are not my "dues" to pay. Youtube has a problem coming up with revenue, Youtube can pick themselves up by the bootstraps and figure it out. Not my problem. Spoken like a dipshit who will never win 500 dollars
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Oct 19, 2023 19:52
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Just as a side note, Google makes $60 billion in profit a year. They are in the top three most profitable companies in the world. YouTube is a component of this as an ad and data collection platform that works just fine despite ad blockers. There's no problem they need to solve. There's no, oh, we have to figure out some way to make money. It's just greed. Making $60 billion is not enough. There is no enough.
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Oct 19, 2023 20:22
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i thought youtube was actually always losing money. i heard that a while ago though so it might not be true anymore
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Elukka posted:Just as a side note, Google makes $60 billion in profit a year. They are in the top three most profitable companies in the world. YouTube is a component of this as an ad and data collection platform that works just fine despite ad blockers. Youtube isn't Google. Kind of like how Twitch isn't Amazon.
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temple posted:Youtube isn't Google. Kind of like how Twitch isn't Amazon. Just how many companies does Alphabet own/control?
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I don't know if YouTube specifically loses money because Google doesn't release those numbers, but Google as a whole is mostly made up of free services that probably lose money and the whole thing makes more money than anyone should have anyway.
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Everything else is a loss-leader side project run to support Google ads.
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Yeah. Seems like everything they do would lose money. I'm sure Google Drive loses money. Gmail loses money, there's no way it doesn't. They've just figured out how to make enormous money out of these free services regardless.
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Google claims that everything outside of their ads platform loses money, but it's because their ads platform is the only product they have that's designed to turn a profit - the rest exist solely to feed data into the ads platform. All the google products that get cancelled don't get cancelled because they don't make revenue, they get cancelled because they can't find a way to harvest meaningful ads data from them. It's called Surveillance Capitalism: The product is surveillance of you and the customer is not you, but the third-parties buying your data. The services are only a way of gathering that surveillance. It also stifles innovation in every sector it touches because the way to make a more profitable product under surveillance capitalism isn't to provide a better product, it's to provide a product that gathers more data. deep dish peat moss fucked around with this message at 21:00 on Oct 19, 2023 |
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Another real world example is how social media like Facebook harvests data about (and intentionally manipulates) your emotional state, so that they can let advertisers target you when you are e.g. at your most depressed, when you're most likely to impulse purchase things like new clothes. It's not just dystopian fear mongering, this is stuff that actually happens: https://www.wired.com/2017/05/welcome-next-phase-facebook-backlash/ quote:But earlier this month, The Australian uncovered something that felt like a breach in the social contract: a leaked confidential document prepared by Facebook that revealed the company had offered advertisers the opportunity to target 6.4 million younger users, some only 14 years old, during moments of psychological vulnerability, such as when they felt “worthless,” “insecure,” “stressed,” “defeated,” “anxious,” and like a “failure.” Facebook has also used these tactics to intentionally incite an ethnic genocide in Myanmar in order to drive engagement with the platform 
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Oct 19, 2023 21:08
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Everyone keeps saying that Google collects a shitton of data and knows everything about you, yet I get nothing but worthless poo poo ads for depression therapy apps and medical deodorant all day. I don't know how they manage to stay in business
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Zero VGS posted:Why would you pay $14 for that... especially before this ad-blocker-blocker poo poo? Personally, because I watch like 10 hours of youtube a day and don't mind paying for it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Actually I am freeloading off a former friends family account. Haven't spoken to the guy in years. Eventually he's bound to get more friends and kick me off. If he does, I'll pay again. And I stopped using ad blockers a longass time ago. There was an arms race forever ago and I got really tired of having to update my blockers/change blockers/try a different browser and blocker combo every other day.
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Oct 19, 2023 21:37
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The only ads I still get are from my NetZero banner and I just put sticky notes in my monitor so I cant see them.
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temple posted:Youtube isn't Google. Kind of like how Twitch isn't Amazon. they make enough cash and dodge enough taxes that they should provide at least some free public services
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Oct 19, 2023 21:40
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The only thing I make a profit on is my emerald selling division. My mining equipment purchasing arm is WAY in the red!
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The General posted:And I stopped using ad blockers a longass time ago. There was an arms race forever ago and I got really tired of having to update my blockers/change blockers/try a different browser and blocker combo every other day. For the last like 6+ years, up until now, all you had to do was run uBlock Origin on Chrome/Firefox. If anything it's those loving Fandom Wikis that you had to constantly pick block poo poo to make them viewable sites.
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The General posted:There was an arms race forever ago and I got really tired of having to update my blockers/change blockers/try a different browser and blocker combo every other day. Do you live in the grayscale 'before' world of TV shopping advertisements or something? I have literally changed ad blockers only once in my entire lifetime.
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I've been using uBlock Origin for at least 8 years, never had to update it once or switch to another ad blocker, and haven't seen an internet ad that entire time I think the problem people run into when adblockers don't work for them is that most Ad Blockers available when you google for an ad blocker are actually owned by advertising companies, and they release ad blockers that block competitors' ads but keep all of their own ad servers on a whitelist that they can't block (or they let advertising firms like Google pay them to be whitelisted). But uBO is open source and completely non-monetized and has worked flawlessly since it was released. deep dish peat moss fucked around with this message at 21:48 on Oct 19, 2023 |
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The General posted:Personally, because I watch like 10 hours of youtube a day and don't mind paying for it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Actually I am freeloading off a former friends family account. Haven't spoken to the guy in years. Eventually he's bound to get more friends and kick me off. If he does, I'll pay again. Why would you admit to this? Ad blockers are dirt easy to use and yet you're like  I'm the smart one for deciding not to use them.
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I think they genuinely don't give a poo poo. Someone with an ad blocker is just a useless expense to them that they are probably even happy to avoid The only exception is during the growth/pre-revenue phase or if their business model relies on user generated content/community engagement
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Oct 19, 2023 21:54
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Let's not dunk on the gormless ad-watcher too hard. His low standards are what keeps YouTube afloat, after all.
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Oct 19, 2023 21:56
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uBlock origin owns because when there are ads that slip through the main adblocker(and there are more and more nowadays because why wouldn't there be) you can manually pick the elements to block and they are loving obliterated 
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There's some highly curated regularly updated blacklists you can subscribe to with ublock that will make absolutely zero ads slip through and it owns. I use some of these but I'm not on my desktop to check which ones: https://github.com/yokoffing/filterlists#recommended-filters-for-ublock-origin I think it's mostly the ublock combo list deep dish peat moss fucked around with this message at 22:05 on Oct 19, 2023 |
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GABA ghoul posted:I think they genuinely don't give a poo poo. Someone with an ad blocker is just a useless expense to them that they are probably even happy to avoid About any particular user, they won't care, but if a lot of people go their site and bounce off because of adblocker harassment then those people aren't going to drive any other traffic to the site. Running people off so you might make a hundredth of a cent is a bad business decision.
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