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algebra testes posted:But can you get all but one of your dudes to stand outside the box and have each corner be a 1 v 1 and cheat like you could 10 years ago. Presumably 'yes' if the AI goes full man-marking with a team full of idiots. Anyway, here's yet more great AI decision-making from a player I offered Squad Player to 
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kingturnip posted:Set Pieces have been redesigned and might actually not be a massive ball-ache Hope they do training next. I hate the current granularity.
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Moktaro posted:Oh poo poo, FM23 is free with Prime this month. Yoink. Picked this up and started a game with Man Utd to learn what's up, as usual. So far I've had Rashford overlooked for the World Cup squad despite scoring 8 in 14, and Maguire scoring an absolute disaster of an own goal in the Carabao Cup (receives the ball from Heaton under zero pressure, "passes" it back to him several yards to his left, neatly bouncing in off the post) Great stuff.
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sebzilla posted:Picked this up and started a game with Man Utd to learn what's up, as usual. Wow, most realistic version yet!
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tanglewood1420 posted:Wow, most realistic version yet! Yeah I mean it was annoying but I did appreciate the accuracy of the simulation. That's why you're fourth choice and not captain, Harry. His match rating was actually quite decent though because he'd previously scored a penalty as somehow the best taker in my cup team of stupid kids.
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Just continued my QPR save from the demo (picked it up despite running from the Epic launcher when the demo was on Steam, nice). The World Cup just finished, the US finished 2nd in group again, then beat the Netherlands, Argentina and Spain before losing the final 2-1 to Portugal. Notable squad changes from RL were Josh Sargent, Folarin Balogun (both scored in the knockouts, Balogun scored in the final) and oddly Jack Harrison. Also Miles Robinson wasn't injured. Iran got the Wooden Spoon with a -14 GD, the only good "underdog" story other than the US was Senegal beating England and France on penalties before losing to Portugal in the semis and then losing a 3-4 shootout to Spain in the 3rd place match.
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do you think they'll ever make it so that tables of info remember what loving width they're supposed to be and not scroll way off the edge of the viewport?
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Moktaro posted:Just continued my QPR save from the demo (picked it up despite running from the Epic launcher when the demo was on Steam, nice). Portugal won my World Cup too, against Belgium. Messi tore his calf six minutes into Argentina's third group game. Ronaldo scored two goals in the final and then got subbed off on about 60 minutes England went out to Equador in the Second Round
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Oct 6, 2023 18:13
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All these years and still no "I would've subbed out the entire team if I was allowed to, but rules are rules" as a press conference option, just SMH.
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Oct 10, 2023 05:01
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No, but they're improving international management by a whopping [checks notes] 2% by giving your National Team a Squad Planner 
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First match in FM24, using an FM23 save and we score from 3 attacking set pieces. lol Second match and my Libero on Support takes the ball from a centre-back and runs it into the opposition area. kingturnip fucked around with this message at 20:35 on Oct 19, 2023 |
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Oct 19, 2023 18:47
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For those of you who would like to avoid using pre-made tactics (or premade custom tactics), someone has gone to volumnious length on how to build your own tactic using FM24's new Positional Play system. https://community.sigames.com/forums/topic/577981-fm24-positional-play-explained-with-examples/
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SirFozzie posted:For those of you who would like to avoid using pre-made tactics (or premade custom tactics), someone has gone to volumnious length on how to build your own tactic using FM24's new Positional Play system. Sorry do I need to do more than extremely short passing 4 2 3 1 attacking mentality? edit: This has gotten me hyped for FM24 algebra testes fucked around with this message at 01:47 on Oct 20, 2023 |
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SirFozzie posted:For those of you who would like to avoid using pre-made tactics (or premade custom tactics), someone has gone to volumnious length on how to build your own tactic using FM24's new Positional Play system. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7MTUneFmd0 RDFTactics also has a breakdown if you want to see it all in motion
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My tactics (a slightly slowed down, more possession based twist on the gegenpress) seems fine, other than the fact that we gently caress up in an epic way every second game. I'm talking passes from defenders to strikers or comical own goals. I am playing as Arsenal, but don't appreciate the realism.
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Watching Lollujo play FM24 is going to be an adventure seeing as how his tactical style is just "change the role to whichever one has the most stars" whenever he does subs which has been a disaster so far
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Oct 20, 2023 20:29
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I loaded my 23 save in 24 and my assman sent me an email saying that we have "upgraded our set piece planning processes and cannot retain our old system," thank you SI. I'm excited to see just what breaks when the game applies FM24 logic to my FM23 club.
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Oct 21, 2023 07:42
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Oct 21, 2023 20:20
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Speaking of breakdowns, holy poo poo, I didn't realize all the stuff that Tactic Makers do when building their tactics to represent real-life tactics. https://rdftactics.notion.site/Liverpool-vs-West-Ham-5fea5889decf4a6b89961acc21063d69 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GlWOak1K5k
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There’s a level of insanity that goes into the tactical side of FM that’s really fun to watch from the outside looking in, especially when it’s genuine and not just trying to exploit the match engine. gently caress if I know how to do any of that though. How are folks finding FM24 so far? Are there any restrictions or things to know about this current “early access” period that make it better to wait for the full release, or is it fine to jump in now? Traditionally I’ve always passed on the beta’s in favour of starting my long term save on day one with the full game.
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I intend to get FM at the same time that I always do... about 14 months from now when it's free on Epic.
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JustJeff88 posted:I intend to get FM at the same time that I always do... about 14 months from now when it's free on Epic. Amen, brother. FM23 is new and exciting right now!
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Oct 22, 2023 16:41
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Football Manager costs me a fraction of a penny per hour anyway. I'm always happy to throw £40 their way for a game I know I'll rack up 1000-4000 hours on. Admittedly that includes a lot of leaving it running while I do other poo poo. It'll be interesting to see a more realistic number now I play on a cloud pc which shuts down if I gently caress off for half hour.
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Yeah, and clicking on any arbitrary YouTube FM player will get you 22% off the preorder. If you're going to purchase it you might as well do it now, get a head start on the new tactics since they actually seem to matter now. Can't just select a random pregen tactic and sim your way to an undefeated season anymore
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Masonity posted:Football Manager costs me a fraction of a penny per hour anyway. I'm always happy to throw £40 their way for a game I know I'll rack up 1000-4000 hours on. From your perspective, that makes perfect sense. Unfortunately, I have to work four jobs in order to survive and don't have any time to game apart from breaks. When I do game these days, I tend to do portable gaming for reasons stated.
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I getchu, FM23 touch via apple arcade was the most I’ve played FM in years. Bumming on the couch and sitting on the toilet. The best way to play this interactive spreadsheet.
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Bumhead posted:There’s a level of insanity that goes into the tactical side of FM that’s really fun to watch from the outside looking in, especially when it’s genuine and not just trying to exploit the match engine. I started a save on Your World w/ Leicester and played through most of the transfer window to see how it is. It's a lot easier to move players on proactively now, between the new agent interactions and intermediaries. Really enjoyed Your World, always felt like the first season was a bit awkward if you wanted to do any transfer business in your first summer. Reckon it's going to be my default for new saves going forward. Then I started a save in Japan with FC Tokyo to test the new league. There definitely seems to be some data quirks related to that, but that's to be expected with a new league. (The rules are wrong and have a stricter home-grown requirement than in real life, according to a bug report on the SI forums. ITG there's a 4 HGC player in match squad requirement, but IRL it is supposed to be during squad registration. A player that's in reality a goalkeeper is a midfielder ITG. A handful of teams' players aren't HGC when they should be.) The new set piece interface is a lot more intuitive. You used to have to manually manage your set piece routines every match to ensure you had your best aerial threat at the near post, say, so I basically didn't bother with them before, now I actually might touch it more. New match engine is great, more fluid, player movement is smarter. One complaint I'm seeing is the Saudi league throws around enormous amounts of money season after season, it's incredibly easy to get very high offers for players you want to move on, and even if you're at a huge European club they might draw away many of your best players every year. In the leicester game I did not really see any implausible transfers happen but I don't know how it plays over a long game.
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I picked up FM24 yesterday using Lullujo's code. My tried-and-tested method of taking the game's pre-set tactics and making the individual roles better suited to the level I'm playing - in this case Bristol Rovers in League One - has taken me to an unbeaten start and top-of-the-table in August, including winning my opening game 4-0 away. I can never get myself into the mindset to do any kind of deep dive into the mechanisms of FM tactics, so I'm thrilled the game is working so spectacularly at my level. One of my least favourite things in FM was attempting to make sense of set pieces, so to me the overhaul of set pieces is nothing short of gamechanging. The set piece creator was great fun and really intuitive, but then it turned out I can just add "set pieces" to the list of attributes when looking for an AM/coach and delegate the whole thing to them! Amazing, 5*, GOTY. More than anything else, I am amazed at how well the game runs on my laptop, which isn't ancient by any means but was fairly middling when I bought it in 2020. It runs like an absolute dream, takes fractions of a second to save/load and the match engine has never looked this good. The engine itself is starting to actually look like a good representation of a game of football, there's logic to how the players move, interact and react and it's easy to see where tactics are working or not working. One-on-one finishing also seems to have been fixed, unmarked players in the box feel genuinely dangerous rather than constantly smacking it straight at the goalkeeper. The player animations for finishing such chances are also really good and varied. Apparently player interactions have had an overhaul too, so far the only thing to happen of note is a veteran striker having a meltdown after I criticised his training. My transfer budget is £0 and my wage budget is -£2k so I have not had any opportunity to try the new transfers system, although I get a lot of emails from "intermediaries" as opposed to agents now.
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Yeah I started as a random Vanarama South club and they have a lot of players on awful contracts that I’m able to move much more easily than in past versions. Nobody’s whined about being transfer listed and subsidizing some of their wages to get them off my books works wonders - Shitvilllage FC won’t pay this player’s £300/wk contract but they’ll go halfsies, and I can spend that £150/wk on someone better in every way. I’ve noticed some issues with scouting and recruitment, the recommendations emails are kinda buggy and the scout report straight up lies sometimes about player positions but I haven’t run into any showstoppers as of yet. Luigi Thirty fucked around with this message at 18:09 on Oct 23, 2023 |
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It's so gratifying when you put together a tactic for a new side and it does just what you wanted it to on the pitch. Taken over Melilla on FM23 and they've got an assortment of mediocre centre backs, a great DM, good options at AMC and AMR and only one left-sided player worth a drat. One rubbish striker. So I've set them up with an asymmetric back 5, 3 centre backs with the one one the left working as a wide centre back behind my complete wing back. On the other side is an orthodox right full back, my dependable club captain. The DM(R) is playing as a Segundo Volante because he's probably the best player on the team, gets up and down the pitch and supports attacks nicely while also defending well, supported by a Carrilero on the left of central midfield who makes neat triangles with him, the wing back and the AMC. Then my right winger on support provides width to stretch the defence for the AMC to break through and provide a goal threat alongside my poacher. Nine games in and we're second in the league, one point off the lead and with the best goal difference by miles. It looks weird but it works great and I feel like a football genius. The wide centre back / wing back combo in particular is very nice to see in action, defending as a five but transforming into a back four in possession.
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sebzilla posted:It's so gratifying when you put together a tactic for a new side and it does just what you wanted it to on the pitch. I'm happy to see two things. Firstly, haveing fun tactically in 23 when 24 is getting a lot of praise on that level. Secondly, that your guys can pull it off. I've been trying to coach a travel squad of uni players in how to play a triangle with a false 9, and it's just not working. Very possibly my fault, I grant you. The strike knows how to run the system, but the CAMs just do not know how to form a triangle and get forward. We don't have a true striker on the team, so this seemed a natural thing to do.
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apophenium posted:I also follow the Lollujo method of "pick most stars" and now I'm broke and my players, fans, and board hate me and I just set the record for most draws in a season. Might need to grow some patience and learn how to manage salaries and tactics and stuff. I usually play the mobile version the most and it's pared down to quite a simple version. I'll be a pro by the time FM30 comes around I've tried a couple of versions of the mobile game and found it really frustrating. I think with the simplicity you lose a lot of your ability to understand what's going on, and it ends up feeling somewhat imprecise and arbitrary whether your team does well or not. JustJeff88 posted:I'm happy to see two things. Firstly, haveing fun tactically in 23 when 24 is getting a lot of praise on that level. Secondly, that your guys can pull it off. I've been trying to coach a travel squad of uni players in how to play a triangle with a false 9, and it's just not working. Very possibly my fault, I grant you. The strike knows how to run the system, but the CAMs just do not know how to form a triangle and get forward. We don't have a true striker on the team, so this seemed a natural thing to do. Yeah I'm a little surprised they're dealing with it, too. Probably helps that we're one of the better teams in the league anyway, and I suppose the thing that really sells it is that none of the individual players have particularly complicated instructions except for maybe the CWB and the SV, who are of a high enough level that it was worth building the tactic around their skills. Everyone else just has a job to do in the system and it's built to support their limitations as well as their talents, in particular adding the third centre back and playing a counter-attacking low block.
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Adrianics posted:Starting to get annoyed that I get told that my team doesn't like the team selection, but won't tell me what it is about it, exactly, that they don't like One of my coaches keeps being irate that I have "Hold up the ball" as part of the tactic and I can't for the life of me figure out what he means. I don't see that as an instruction, let alone one I've selected. Also been having lots of trouble with injuries. My starting keeper sprained his ankle about 20min into a match and the backup I subbed in broke his wrist within a minute. I've got a full and decent physio team and am not working anyone too hard but people keep getting hurt. Not sure if it's overtuned or what, but I'm comfortably first in my league for injured players.
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I want to get into this game but uhh I don't know anything about soccer. I play a ton of Out of the Park but this is so foreign to me. Should I start with an American team? Is that easier to understand assuming they only play in one "league"? Set nearly everything to automated coaches?
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Just play in England, it has less stupid rules than most leagues
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poe meater posted:I want to get into this game but uhh I don't know anything about soccer. I play a ton of Out of the Park but this is so foreign to me. Whatever you do DON'T play in MLS. Its bastardized American rule set is a nightmare. Honestly, I started from the same place you did and what got me going was reading the FM14 mega-LP. Obviously there is a LOT of stuff way different from the FM of ten years ago vs. now, but it still still ease you into the basics. e: I would recommend Ligue 1, the rules are super lax, continental qualification is doable once you have your feet under you, and you have a definitive final boss in PSG Eric the Mauve fucked around with this message at 20:16 on Oct 24, 2023 |
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jesus WEP posted:Just play in England, it has less stupid rules than most leagues If you're just trying to ease your way into football I might recommend someplace like Germany instead since they have really lax registration rules. England you have to worry about work permits and such thanks to Brexit Germany Netherlands Hungary Ireland
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