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People I have spoken to over the past week have shifted from “Let them fight” mentality to “ok ok I don’t think carpet bombing women and children is helping” It’s literally Joe Biden pushing this poo poo on the rest of us
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Death By The Blues posted:Egypt may have just said gently caress it and opened the Rafah crossing if this is true thats big let me double check
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https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/israel-hamas-war-gaza-strip-conflictquote:Israel would then move to end its responsibility under international law as the occupying power in the Gaza Strip. How it could do so remains an open question. The above is "phase three" of the Israel's war plan. What could that mean? Sink Gaza into the Med?
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Ramrod Hotshot posted:https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/israel-hamas-war-gaza-strip-conflict it means genocide or ethnic cleansing
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atelier morgan posted:important to remember that all the iran nukes poo poo is based off a false premise that iran wants or is seeking nuclear capability also Iran abided by the rules of the anti-nuke development treaty with the US until Trump withdrew from it in 2018
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Filthy Hans posted:also Iran abided by the rules of the anti-nuke development treaty with the US until Trump withdrew from it in 2018 ya I assume zionist donors told him to blow it up
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Filthy Hans posted:also Iran abided by the rules of the anti-nuke development treaty with the US until Trump withdrew from it in 2018 clever of them to store up all those beakers and save that great scientist to rush completion of their nuke program. rookie mistake from America, skill issue for sure.
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Zohar posted:western govts seem to think this is a ukraine situation in terms of public support but it really doesn't look like it. and that's without any economic pain so far the public at large here in burgerland is pretty dumb and wildly propogandized to but maybe you can't sell Ukranuan intervention on "big bully country with big army invade bomb kill and occupy little place that can't fight back good without help" and then try to flip the script on how our sympathies are supposed to work in the same loving election cycle.
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ProfessorBooty posted:Can't wait until we have sweat shop houses desperately hand crafting munitions to meet our quota. same here it means American workers could meaningfully disrupt war production and turn this public sentiment into concrete action. As it is we are largely stuck trying to get a small handful of orgs to pull retirement funds out of Israeli investments. Politically there is 0 opportunity for any anti-imperial effort. It's rough
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I actually havent heard much from unions here in support of palestine to be clear i havent heard much of anything at all about the conflict from unions
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In Training posted:same here it means American workers could meaningfully disrupt war production and turn this public sentiment into concrete action. As it is we are largely stuck trying to get a small handful of orgs to pull retirement funds out of Israeli investments. Politically there is 0 opportunity for any anti-imperial effort. It's rough yep.
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the only good people in norway are out for palestine https://twitter.com/ajarabic/status/1715355938704457931?s=46&t=kY7HKwmb1RBg9U186lxtbg
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Always kind of wonder how people can see what their parents do and let them keep going. My mom is awful and has awful beliefs, and my dad is awful and has awful beliefs, but at least the worst thing they do is watch rumble or fox news.
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Al-Saqr posted:egyptians out in force for palestine
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That poll is pretty eye opening but public sentiment has no effect whatsoever on policy in this country. Bourgeois have consolidated enough power since 70s that they don't have to even pretend to care about that poo poo anymore. Remember at the height of summer 2020 there was majority support for defend and like not insignificant support for an abolitionist position. Wild poo poo.
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In Training posted:As it is we are largely stuck trying to get a small handful of orgs to pull retirement funds out of Israeli investments. Which they've somehow made illegal in a lot of states? I know those laws are wildly unconstitutional and that doesn't matter, the Supreme Court will let it happen if the case ever goes to them. But I don't get the enforcement of them. How do you compel someone not to boycott something?
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I don't have time to write this all up at the moment, but there's a thread here that connects the Anglican hospital that was bombed to the state of the American Empire. Britain built up a huge global Anglican Church under the Victorians, trying to compete with Catholicism and also create a class of civil servants, administrators, soldiers etc. that were Anglicized. Whatever you think about the Brits, Christianity has an appeal, and the Anglican Church was successful in many parts of the world, including Mandatory Palestine. When the Brits quit Empire, they basically cut all of these people loose. This is kind of a through line for Britain, because they were really big on taking their toys and going home. Another thing is, where Catholicism is slowly coming to terms with being a global religion where most Catholics, the ones who take it most seriously, the places where the Church is growing, are outside of Europe, the Brits absolutely cannot deal with this. It's the Church of bloody England innit? So they refuse to give leadership of the Anglican Church to the people who are its lifeblood. Desmond Tutu was the closest to the ideal of an Anglican bishop in a hundred years or more, but the Brits really don't care. Well, this was an Anglican hospital that was bombed. Has the King of England, who is the Supreme Governor of the Church of England made any statement about this? What is it supposed to mean to be Anglican? What are all of these institutions for? I bring that up, because I think we're starting to see this with American institutions too. Like Gradenko said, capitalism trumps nationalism, and as the Empire recedes, a lot of things America has spent effort pretending matter are going to be cut loose too. Anyway, there's an interesting book about how the future of the Anglican Church, paradoxically, will probably be outside of England: The Anglican Church in Burma: From Colonial Past to Global Future Sometimes presumed to be a mere relic of British colonialism, the Anglican Church in Burma (Myanmar) has its own complex identity, intricately interwoven with beliefs and traditions that predate the arrival of Christianity. In this essential volume, Edward Jarvis succinctly reconstructs this history and demonstrates how Burma’s unique voice adds vital context to the study of Anglicanism’s predicament and the future of worldwide Christianity. Over the past two hundred years, the Anglican Church in Burma has seen empires rise and fall. Anglican Christians survived the brutal Japanese occupation, experienced rampant poverty and environmental disaster, and began a tortuous and frustrating quest for peace and freedom under a lawless dictatorship. Using a range of sources, including archival documents and the firsthand accounts of Anglicans from a variety of backgrounds, Jarvis tells the story of the church’s life beyond empire, exploring how Christians of non-Western heritage remade the church after a significant part of its liturgical documents and literature was destroyed in World War Two and how, more recently, the church has gained attention for its alignment with influential conservative and orthodox movements within Anglicanism. Comprehensive and concise, this fascinating history will appeal to scholars and students of religious studies, World Christianity, church history, and the history of missions and theology as well as to clergy, seminarians, and those interested in the current crises and future direction of Anglicanism.
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https://twitter.com/oelfatairy/status/1715338582510981488?s=46&t=kY7HKwmb1RBg9U186lxtbg egyptian protestors are physically aat the rafah crossing demanding it be opened. alexandria out in force for palestine https://twitter.com/oelfatairy/status/1715315642172100799?s=46&t=kY7HKwmb1RBg9U186lxtbg this is the first time in a decade egyptians were allowed to protest at all let alone like this.
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Zohar posted:western govts seem to think this is a ukraine situation in terms of public support but it really doesn't look like it. and that's without any economic pain so far webcams for christ posted:if Isreal didn't exist yet the USA would invent it.  Pretty much the story of Israel, part of the immediate post ww2 "get our affairs in order, crush the new waves, we are no1 and dont you forget it" mindsets permeating the us and uk then. A palestinian state is only possible with a dti, and in order to have that you need a dta.
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HallelujahLee posted:I actually havent heard much from unions here in support of palestine Nationally they haven't taken any positions at all. There are locals that have printed support for Palestinian liberation and like I said, urged their national org to adopt BDS and pull e.g. pension funds from Israeli investments. Afaik these have not been adopted at scale anywhere, but I would like to be proven wrong. Even these locals adopting a position like this is a newer development though, I know from union organizers I work with these are internally VERY contentious - you get any group of hundreds of Americans in an organization and there will be a militant minority who does anything they can to disrupt the process and use the regular Zionist rhetoric, whether bc they are actually Zionist or bc they read the News. It's good though bc the pro Palestine support is the majority and the union can stand firm on that and win people over w/ a serious approach to handling the derailing attempts and help nudge their members politically one step at a time to internationalism.
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Al-Saqr posted:qassam releases footage of their drone team doing amazing work lmao the RPG round hanging from the bottom
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Raskolnikov38 posted:lmao the RPG round hanging from the bottom to be honest a rocket propelled pile bunker drone is a really ingenious idea hamas is so much cooler than i thought possible
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Weird, tying race, nationality, and religion into one genocidal monster is making people anti semetic thats odd how'd that happen
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In Training posted:Nationally they haven't taken any positions at all. There are locals that have printed support for Palestinian liberation and like I said, urged their national org to adopt BDS and pull e.g. pension funds from Israeli investments. Afaik these have not been adopted at scale anywhere, but I would like to be proven wrong. Thanks for the info, I think the IWW was going to put out a statement, or at last they put out donations at minimum to palestine
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people pushing for literal genocide: "oh my god what a good speech by king biden" lady makes a bad joke: fired forever
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Fellatio del Toro posted:citibank staffer rehired, promoted when clarifying that "them" meant nonwhites also this lol
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Ukraine: let us drop grenades in open hatches Hamas: we will use explosively formed penetrators so as to not rely on the incompetence of our enemy
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Truga posted:people pushing for literal genocide: "oh my god what a good speech by king biden" She offended her betters.
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