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Engorged Pedipalps posted:🤔 The dead failed playbook is becoming the 'we're not a cause we're just salary/disciplinary negotiators on retainer' union, though.
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VoicesCanBe posted:That points to them not going through with the ground invasion, and instead bombing and starving out Gaza over many years until every single person living there is dead. maybe the israelis could learn to fight, instead of hiding behind the skirts of "the holocaust!!!" while constantly siding with its perpetrators
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10 years is plenty of time for Iran to build a hundred thousand nukes
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Iverron posted:lol remember when Biden promised a public option Hey, if you want health care, join the marines. That's an option.
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Adam Friedland has come out in support of hamas.. sombering
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gradenko_2000 posted:What about a union... between the West Bank, the Gaza Strip, the city of Jerusalem, and the Golan Heights wow a union of semite state republics!
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Just checking in on my reps over here, nothing new but god do I love this absolute bullshit cognitive dissonance / reality being that they are only giving a gently caress about indigenous people because it's politically the correct move.
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fizzy posted:"Honest" *question" news - Everyone has been talking about Israel shutting off water/electricity to Gaza, but why is it Gaza is dependent on Israel for those things in the first place? Why has Hamas from 2006 to 2023 not built their own electric plants or water purification plants? Are they just too small to run those things, or has Israel had a formal policy to stop or destroy any efforts by Hamas to build such buildings and make themselves more independent? i'm still researching exactly what the infrastructure situation is over there, but long story short is: they tried. gaza has, for instance, been improving its desalination infrastructure to be more proportional to the size of the population, since seawater intrusion is slowly but surely poisoning well water. commercial scale desalination requires a whole bunch of electricity, which is a more complicated problem. gaza has no real natural resources, so the main source of domestic power is the Gaza Power Plant, which is a 140MW unit that runs on imported (often smuggled) fuel oil. that's something like a third of the actual electricity demand for the whole strip. (for a while this plant ran exclusively on oil smuggled in barrels through tunnels from egypt - which must have been a hell of a bucket brigade operation) even if you could somehow get the parts and build another power plant you'd only be more reliant on unreliable imports or smuggling. the only realistic domestic option is solar - and you need a bunch of land for that, which the strip does not have. so the long and short of it is, you can build all the nice infrastructure - and they've tried - and without consistent imports due to arbitrary israeli blockades, it'll just all sit idle until some IDF desk jockey gets bored and decides to bomb it. so in the mean time, imported energy and water is gonna be about as good as anything
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This is I guess for FlapYoJacks ... The stupid rear end reporting around the Hospital bombing left me no peace - especially with all the media showing the same loving angle. Of the parking lot notably also FACING AWAY from the Hospital. Well 3 minutes of searching on Yandex found me a picture of what the actual situation of the hospital, now a mostly anonymous pile of rubble is like. This is how you get 500+ dead. Not eight loving cars scorched on a parking lot The rabid dog genocide enabler media needs to be put the gently caress down along with all their quislings  I circled the leaning tower in the photo above in red on this map. You can also see (up north) the red roofs from the news favorite camera angle which shows only the parking lot and other buildings left standing.  Heres the map source: https://www.google.com/maps/place/A...c60jc?entry=ttu Here's the image source: https://www.google.com/search?q=ahl...=j8IPVqDJdvxXoM OSINT can eat my entire rear end Edit, another view via another article via Yandex: https://www.dailysabah.com/world/mid-east/500-killed-in-ruthless-israeli-airstrike-on-gaza-hospital
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Tsitsikovas posted:lol all industries are in part international. you cant just be a domestic union without considering the global scope of what it is you work on or in. This is my pet issue man, I care a lot about Palestine and support them I'm just aware other people exist in this world and dictate the success of labor movements in the United States, traditionally Everything a union does has a cost, and in an environment where unions are so heavily neutered they have limited political capital and can be destroyed pretty much at will by their respective industry or federal meddling When UAW was controlled by auto execs it cared a whole lot about rainforests and world hunger and what we were doing in other countries and auto workers got dick all to show for it for thirty years
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i support the union.. of the hamas brigades
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Engorged Pedipalps posted:That's all a union was ever supposed to be 
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mcmagic posted:I'm a single issue voter on ending US support for Israel now.
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:pure insanity wtf This seems about right since Israel doesn’t have the train infrastructure of Nazi Germany to kill 5 million Palestinians efficiently, and once they raze Gaza to the ground they’ll bulldoze the West Bank and everyone will sit back and nod
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VomitOnLino posted:This is I guess for FlapYoJacks ... yet no one on any american news channel is asking how a hamas rocket can do that
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Cold on a Cob posted:doctor in canada Ukrainian Diaspora vs Jewish Diaspora
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VomitOnLino posted:Heres the map source: Wrong hospital that's in the west bank
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HallelujahLee posted:sure when they refuse to send weapons to israel that works out fine or when they refuse to load them onto the ships Similar actions have actually happened in the US. The International Longshore and Warehouse Union has honored picket lines by Palestine solidarity activists and not unloaded Israeli ships. https://oaklandside.org/2021/06/08/pro-palestine-ship-blockade-port-of-oakland-activist-history-israel-zim/ Dockworkers are a great example of a union that has an internationalist, class conscious orientation in the US. They are great on issues of imperialism. They are also one of the few unions that told that US state and AFL-CIO to gently caress off in the 1950s when told to purge their Communists. Them and the UE are still very different from most of the US labor movement because of that history. The ILWU and UE also focus first on really organizing, educating, and fighting for their members. "Nuts and bolts organizing" and "international solidarity" should not be in competition. Having a solid base in those workplace struggles is needed for those bigger fights. If you can't have people turn out to a normal shop floor action, they won't turn out to the Palestine march. A union also needs to know at least a little about the international situation, or else you become like that SEIU local who just purged a guy for having the correct analysis of Palestine, which could easily turn into another purge of socialists/communists in general.
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Sherbert Hoover posted:well i think the main thing is that everyone was saying the hospital was blown up and it turns out it seems intact according to the daylight pics people shared the next day. idk what the deal is with that tbh but i'm sure israel bombed it and a lot of people died. It's not remotely intact but it also wasn't a seven story building that got leveled like some people were saying for some reason. It's a whole complex of smaller buildings that got concussed and singed when bomb exploded over(?) the parking lot. Eyewitness testimony said the false ceiling in the ER fell out to give you an idea of how the buildings were affected
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donoteat posted:i'm still researching exactly what the infrastructure situation is over there, but long story short is: they tried holy moly its donnoteat. im still subscribed to your patreon. you have any plans on doing anything with cities skylines 2??
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VomitOnLino posted:This is I guess for FlapYoJacks ... Quoting this so I can add it to the timeline later. I’m on a train with poo poo internet. The internet however, is not so poo poo they I can’t post DTI, DTA, DTUN. Thank you!
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Engorged Pedipalps posted:Wrong hospital that's in the west bank Your right. My bad.. however this does not change the point that none of the images is showing the supposed hospital. Always this fixation with the parking lot - sometimes you see (accidentally I assume) mangled rebar poking into their "clean" parking lot shots...
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VomitOnLino posted:This is I guess for FlapYoJacks ... The Google maps image is of a different hospital in the West Bank. But the pictures I have not seen before. If those are indeed actual pictures of the wreckage then yeah it's completely consistent with an Israeli airstrike and the OSINT freaks are loving liars. (To be clear, it was an Israeli airstrike regardless of the evidence in op)
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FlapYoJacks posted:Quoting this so I can add it to the timeline later. I’m on a train with poo poo internet. The internet however, is not so poo poo they I can’t post DTI, DTA, DTUN. Thank you! Sadly I hosed up the map location ... and it's late and I need to sleep despite being so angry... but yea... you can still get images of the Hospital - well now an anonymous pile of rubble anyway ... which explains the wests loving obsession with that dumb gay parking lot
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donoteat posted:i'm still researching exactly what the infrastructure situation is over there, but long story short is: they tried. You're responding to a quote from the D&D ispal thread, where someone is doing a "Seems like the Palestinians are just really lazy and the Arabs refuse to pull their weight to help them" routine. You can go try to educate that thread, but the mods there are trigger-happy with the 24hr probations if you don't toe the Democratic Party line and don't follow Rober's Rules of Order when posting.
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:pure insanity wtf Hahaha ten years that’s a good one
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spacemang_spliff posted:so israel is backing out of the ground invasion because they know their poo poo is going to get hosed up i think they'll just bust out nerve gas and dare the west to do something about it.
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VomitOnLino posted:This is I guess for FlapYoJacks ... Thanks for putting more effort into this then me
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spacemang_spliff posted:so israel is backing out of the ground invasion because they know their poo poo is going to get hosed up idf quickly revealed to be a bunch of inebriated 21-year olds named poo poo like "yova", but not in the prison way where cutesy name=scary
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Stairmaster posted:i think they'll just bust out nerve gas and dare the west to do something about it. They already use WP and the west doesn’t care lol
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:pure insanity wtf *8 years from now* The ground invasion of Gaza is imminent. We are just waiting on the 10th U.S. carrier fleet to get in position and for the U.S. House speakership election to end.
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Unions not taking part in an international left is lib brained. Shut the gently caress up if your position is "the only purpose of a union is to make sure the workers in the imperial core get good pay while the genocide goes on"
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spacemang_spliff posted:so israel is backing out of the ground invasion because they know their poo poo is going to get hosed up Bombing civilians with large capacity bombs = cheap, easy Actually fighting a war = expensive, hard
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