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RocketMermaid posted:Man, our webcomic's store has a PASSWORD?! That is JAMES BOND IN A TOWEL! Scags McDouglas posted:I assume it's ok to post this off of the Patreon? Thanks, password protecting a merch shop is a really strange decision, like I wouldn't have even bothered with whatever hoops there are to look at it if you didn't post the password. Then again, I probably wouldn't have known it existed either, so no real loss, but putting am extra roadblock between yourself and your customers giving you money perplexes me. I didn't get anything, but I at least wanted to see if there was anything I wanted, and I know it's lazy, but it's pretty easy to convince me "I guess I don't need that" with online stuff.
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Twenty Four posted:Thanks, password protecting a merch shop is a really strange decision, like I wouldn't have even bothered with whatever hoops there are to look at it if you didn't post the password. Then again, I probably wouldn't have known it existed either, so no real loss, but putting am extra roadblock between yourself and your customers giving you money perplexes me. I didn't get anything, but I at least wanted to see if there was anything I wanted, and I know it's lazy, but it's pretty easy to convince me "I guess I don't need that" with online stuff. it's a "soft launch", i assume onstad doesn't mind if someone who doesn't sub to the patreon gives him money for a t-shirt before everyone is able to
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Oct 16, 2023 22:30
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more falafel please posted:it's a "soft launch", i assume onstad doesn't mind if someone who doesn't sub to the patreon gives him money for a t-shirt before everyone is able to I suppose, I just don't see the benefit unless it's not print on demand and there's a supply issue, which would be better served with a "sold out" sign when that happens. I'm not mad or anything, it's just weird I guess, unless I'm missing something. All is well, though.
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Oct 16, 2023 22:36
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I assume putting a roadblock between the customers and the sales is the point so Onstad can keep early numbers low while he's still setting up shop, and only people who are already invested in giving him money can see the place
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Oct 16, 2023 23:22
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moot the hopple posted:I'm cool with paying a Patreon sub for the comic, but I don't blame anybody for being justifiably leery of ordering any physical merchandise given the shoddy track record. It does seem like he's selling actual, tangible things this time but I am kinda curious about about the legality of then vs now. For instance if you pre-order a digital cookbook and are made to wait after the chargeback window, I guess you're hosed? This was obviously conducted in such a way that he kept the money, which is why it's one of this thread's touchier subjects. Maybe there needed to be a class action lawsuit. Now if I bought something and it hit like day 50 I'd chargeback the absolute balls off of him. (But it does seem like he honors things these days and that this is sincere).
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Oct 17, 2023 02:37
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I have chosen to Bolieve in Onstad and have purchased material objects bearing webcomic content. I may regift the pint glass tho
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Oct 17, 2023 02:42
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I generally quit doing business with people who have pulled chargeback-level fraud in the past, as even in a best case scenario clawing that money back is still a hassle
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Javid posted:I generally quit doing business with people who have pulled chargeback-level fraud in the past, as even in a best case scenario clawing that money back is still a hassle Yeah and that's part of the more philosophical point I was making. We used to be children reading this (college aged children) so we'd all take it as a loss over the fraud. Now we're all grown rear end adults... probably... which makes us tougher to fleece but also (in 2023) has lowered the barrier of expended energy on a dispute 'cause I'd just log in to my CC site and take the funds back in like 15 seconds. I do however think he's legit selling stuff this time and at worst, will keep taking orders after running out. Conclusion:
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I suspect the secret password shop is also because he can likely count the number of people in his Patreon (and thus proven Fans, and also Unwise with Money) and if he sells out, he knows to reorder and then open it to the Pats and Emerils of the world.
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I figured he was just doing the password thing to stress test the store to make sure it doesn't implode on being opened to the wider public
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Scags McDouglas posted:It does seem like he's selling actual, tangible things this time but I am kinda curious about about the legality of then vs now. For instance if you pre-order a digital cookbook and are made to wait after the chargeback window, I guess you're hosed? This was obviously conducted in such a way that he kept the money, which is why it's one of this thread's touchier subjects. Maybe there needed to be a class action lawsuit. To be fair to Onstad, I think the Patreon is actually the most tangible value out of everything he's offering. The comic's return has been solid and I definitely think I'm getting my money's worth with the 9 bucks tier for the weekly comics and writings, even though I've probably reached critical mass of monthly subscriptions at this point. I'm personally not comfortable ordering anything that requires more fulfillment than that, but hey maybe the new printshop stuff and whatnot will make it easier for him to get stuff out to customers this time. I'm happy enough to support the guy with the subscription and hope that the Patreon model is the missing piece of the puzzle that allows him to finally make a decent living from Achewood.
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more falafel please posted:it's a "soft launch", i assume onstad doesn't mind if someone who doesn't sub to the patreon gives him money for a t-shirt before everyone is able to I mean it’s beef’s password. If he rly wanted it gated (I can see an argument for why, maybe he intended to give patrons early access as a soft launch and/or subscriber perk) he should’ve picked a less obvious pw
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I will say I've ordered a handful of merch over the last couple years and have not been dong razzled. Nothing in the current shop appeals to me but I've got faith that he has unfucked himself.
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Ok Comboomer posted:I mean it’s beef’s password. If he rly wanted it gated (I can see an argument for why, maybe he intended to give patrons early access as a soft launch and/or subscriber perk) he should’ve picked a less obvious pw you could drive a bus through these security holes, all honking and dragging a bunch of rusty bikes
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Ok Comboomer posted:I mean it’s beef’s password. If he rly wanted it gated (I can see an argument for why, maybe he intended to give patrons early access as a soft launch and/or subscriber perk) he should’ve picked a less obvious pw Maybe he did, and then a cat changed his password.
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I was not invested in the cookbook preorder so I don't have that axe to grind against the man, but my attempts to pay money for his soda products have not given me cause to think much better of his reliability than that, either. For his sake I do hope he has found the right lamp to sit under that lets him bite all the way through the toast on delivering a physical product. your service in rolling the dice for us on the first wave is appreciated e: the soda is actually good when I can physically acquire it 
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Javid posted:I was not invested in the cookbook preorder so I don't have that axe to grind against the man, but my attempts to pay money for his soda products have not given me cause to think much better of his reliability than that, either. well he’s got whatever strain golden tabloid is supposed to be IRL now
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Oct 18, 2023 20:10
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The Breast Man was entropy9 you hacks
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a closer reading reveals it was code:
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Nessus posted:The Breast Man was entropy9 you hacks 
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Turns out entropy1 is the password for Hole Men.
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Nessus posted:The Breast Man was entropy9 you hacks phone call from a fireman
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My t-shirt order shipped and was scanned in Portland yesterday. 
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I was trying to find the strip where Doc Andretti prescribes Ray with medication for his piss shivers and found what appears to be Oh No Robot vandalism? lmao
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Pentaro posted:I was trying to find the strip where Doc Andretti prescribes Ray with medication for his piss shivers and found what appears to be Oh No Robot vandalism? lmao
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You emotional thimble! You spit-once-and-gently caress Romeo!
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Oh poo poo, fake Balenciagas.
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Words I never thought I would type: hell yeah, get 'im Pat
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withak posted:Oh poo poo, fake Balenciagas. GASP!
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It's time for Pat to unleash his true form
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moot the hopple posted:It's time for Pat to unleash his true form FILTER > OTHER > MAPPLETHORPE
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NGL I don't know poo poo about fashion, and the first time Balenciagas came up I googled it and thought Ray was talking about his shoes. Still pretty much following concept clues that Zenni is worse.
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Scags McDouglas posted:NGL I don't know poo poo about fashion, and the first time Balenciagas came up I googled it and thought Ray was talking about his shoes. Zenni is an internet vendor for cheap eyeglasses. Balenciagas is, as far as I can tell, what rich people spend their money on, eyeglass-wise. Ray is horrified that his new guru is a Poor.
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Strange Cares posted:Zenni is an internet vendor for cheap eyeglasses. Balenciagas is, as far as I can tell, what rich people spend their money on, eyeglass-wise. Ray is horrified that his new guru is a Poor. Ray does not care if you're poor - see Beef - but he does get offended if you have Low Tastes but you're fronting like you're a player. Remember Bensington Butters and the whole thing with Hanna-Barbera characters and Hunt's Ketchup.
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Ray asked the man if he had Balenciegas. He affirmed that he did. He has now Lied to Ray. That's gonna be a problem.
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Phy posted:Ray does not care if you're poor - see Beef - but he does get offended if you have Low Tastes but you're fronting like you're a player. Remember Bensington Butters and the whole thing with Hanna-Barbera characters and Hunt's Ketchup.  Ray is a land of contrasts. Lyle does not have health insurance, so everyone should go and "[sin against their own bodies.]"
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Ray has no truck with rich people who are cheap. What is the point of money except to spend it on yourself and your guys
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