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temple posted:I appreciate personalized stuff but the "shopping experience" on random websites is usually trash. My doctor is helpful with suggesting stuff before it becomes an issue. GetCheapJorts.com doesn't help me in anyway. how cheap are we talking about?
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hbag posted:when i go to a shopping site i search for the thing i want to buy and then i buy it. why does google need to know my browsing history for this? if google knows your personal browsing history they can make a prediction about what you are going to do next/what emotional state you are in based off your activity they can then check to see if their prediction is right by monitoring your activity once they get good at predicting your behavior they can sell off those predictions to marketers and political organizations so that those actors can more effectively manipulate you basically the idea is that they get to know you better than you know yourself and then they can guarantee sales/political engagement to the people interested in foisting those things upon you it's still a work in progress but they're getting better at it every day
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jokes on them im autistic
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I'm quite sure I have never seen anything more complex than googling 'bathroom suppliers near me' and then seeing ads for new showers for a while. Like this stuff is for sure in development and ad men will swear they can do it but it is really worth the cost to serve up ads for a £5 recycled toothbrush to 10,000,000 people who sometimes buy recycled products, or a £50 microwave to someone who is definitely looking for one between 14.00 and 15.15 on Wednesdays in Stratford?
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Pitdragon posted:if google knows your personal browsing history they can make a prediction about what you are going to do next/what emotional state you are in based off your activity this really assumes way too much. like ad algorithms are some sort of demigod all-knowing terror. ads are exceptionally dumb. they are fired at you based on extremely loose associations of words, search terms, and app permissions. if you type something like "vacuum" into google you tick a box for household items, and so that's one of many ads you'll see. theyre just spreadsheets like anything else. more often than not the information contained in those spreadsheets is impartial and/or inaccurate, filled with garbage searches you've made over the years, and diluted and skewed heavily by the few 'positive' hits you have made on certain items. ads cannot know you better than you know yourself. they are automated but mostly dumb conditional-logic csv files with tons of bells and whistles. marketers like to pretend there is something far more complex at work but this is very untrue. it's no miracle that married people in their 30's might need a vacuum cleaner, or that men over 35 care about balding.
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this is why you can disable personal results on pretty much anything. it barely matters (to the advertisers, to google, to the bottom line, and to the consumer). it only ever matters to advertisers in the situation of those super special "one person only" ads that are still very common and routine. and even they need to be heavily blanketed for regions if they have any chance at being successful. google sure likes to sell up their ability to fulfil personal advertisements but this is almost exclusively because google has your search record history (and advertisers don't). they barely do anything functional with it anyway, since there are millions of keywords and companies out there vying for your attention, but it's a "have" vs a "have not" sort of thing and it makes a huge difference to the landscape of their monopoly, mostly in terms of revenue. tl;dr ads are way less magical than you think. this actually makes them suck even more poo poo, to me. GolfHole fucked around with this message at 16:09 on Oct 20, 2023 |
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GolfHole posted:tl;dr ads are way less magical than you think. this actually makes them suck even more poo poo, to me. This. How many times have you been advertised something you have already bought for months after you bought it.
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Jimlit posted:This. How many times have you been advertised something you have already bought for months after you bought it. I remember the last time I bought a laptop, after I immediately was bombarded for weeks with a pile more ads for laptops as if buying one computer was a sign I have a crippling laptop addiction.
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GolfHole posted:this really assumes way too much. like ad algorithms are some sort of demigod all-knowing terror. this isn't even close to reality. when I worked for yahoo search marketing 15 years ago you were already behind on your technology assessment.
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What if I don't buy stuff from ads 
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Winkle-Daddy posted:this isn't even close to reality. when I worked for yahoo search marketing 15 years ago you were already behind on your technology assessment. Well don't keep us waiting. I want to hear all the juicy details about decade old ad tech.
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I can't get a straight answer anywhere can I or can I not get an STD from ads?
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Depends where you shove them.
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Khanstant posted:I can't get a straight answer anywhere can I or can I not get an STD from ads?
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Aaaaaaads!
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Mr Luxury Yacht posted:I remember the last time I bought a laptop, after I immediately was bombarded for weeks with a pile more ads for laptops as if buying one computer was a sign I have a crippling laptop addiction. google deepstate : drat Mr Luxury Yacht isnt Hunter Biden.
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Getting real tired of Tom Brady, Snoop Dogg, and Peyton Manning trying to sell me stuff Shaq OK though
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GolfHole posted:this really assumes way too much. like ad algorithms are some sort of demigod all-knowing terror. E: This also isn't a Musk thing, I remember looking at this years ago and it was equally stupid then. TACD fucked around with this message at 18:14 on Oct 20, 2023 |
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SettingSun posted:Well don't keep us waiting. I want to hear all the juicy details about decade old ad tech. here's a ten year old article demonstrating how target, tracking user trends, was able to do things like predict pregnancy in customers. what we were doing was far more invasive than even this. and Google is far better at it than yahoo ever was. extrapolate accordingly. https://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2012/02/16/how-target-figured-out-a-teen-girl-was-pregnant-before-her-father-did/
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Do you really link the silly sensationalist (and likely faked) story about Target's ads? I was hoping for some firsthand anecdotes.
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That article is just an ad for ads
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As someone who’s worked on the other side of ad targeting, I’ve had a boss whose vision included marketing baby goods at women of a certain age group. But the Target story is dumb. The !shocking! part of the story is supposed to be that Target with commercial forethought somehow predicted a woman’s pregnancy. The more likely story is that pregnant women are a disproportionately large group of non-fragrant shampoo buyers. So a simple “Others also bought…” algorithm surfaces baby goods to buyers of that shampoo. Corporations can indeed do a lot with your data but I think the reality is they do less with it than you might expect. You should be less worried about precision targeting than about data leaks. That’s something people don’t talk enough about.
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I googled to how to kiss better and started getting ads for tongue rings 
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Winkle-Daddy posted:this isn't even close to reality. when I worked for yahoo search marketing 15 years ago you were already behind on your technology assessment. SettingSun posted:Do you really link the silly sensationalist (and likely faked) story about Target's ads? I was hoping for some firsthand anecdotes.  
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Winkle-Daddy posted:this isn't even close to reality. when I worked for yahoo search marketing 15 years ago you were already behind on your technology assessment. i mean... i frequently utilize and also set up some up some of the 'modern' stuff we are using and its all just redressed spreadsheets, if/else statements, and timestamps made accessible through extremely fancy SaaS packaging saying it's just spreadsheets kind of diminishes the actual capabilities of having umpteenth amounts of data (and thus, being able to actually build 'targeted' ads based on science) but the reason i did is because, in the guts, it's still just a matrix of data about a matrix of people in a matrix of spreadsheets. theres no wizard of oz.
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if any of that poo poo actually worked then [more than a small, severely deranged, group of] people wouldnt hate ads to begin with... since theyd be so useful...
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Google's data harvesting keeps making them think I live in Australia so I think I'm doing a good job keeping them off my trail.
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for gently caress's sake I am getting really loving sick of these ads funded by the Epoch Times getting shoved in my face every loving ten minutes they're not selling any products, they're just slinging horseshit. if I wanted to listen to someone slander queer people for several minutes on end I'd call my mom or something, jeez
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dervival posted:for gently caress's sake I am getting really loving sick of these ads funded by the Epoch Times getting shoved in my face every loving ten minutes
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Vegetable posted:lol if you don’t think falun gong is the way Assaulted by Epoch Times ads on the internet, and Shen Yun billboards in real life, that is a true sicko cult.
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TACD posted:If you still have an account on the bad bird site, check out your list of "interests". This is the list of topics used to "personalize your experience across X, including the ads you see." Mine does have some stuff I'm interested in, but it has way, way more poo poo that I am absolutely not interested in, have never engaged with, or have literally never heard of. Some of them are hilariously vague ("animals", "food", "water", "weather") and overall it just gives me the impression that ~the algorithm~ is completely unable to filter signal from noise and advertisers should probably be mad about getting scammed into thinking Big Tech can deliver these hyper-personalised targeted impressions.
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 im not interested in any of these things
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yeah, I got one of those "trans people: evil new trend, or new evil trend?" ads for the Epoch Times. went to Google Ad Center, filled out their little report form and got the automated "looking into it" email. Roughly a month later, I got the exact same loving ad. Now I use Newpipe
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My dad actually had a physical rear end newsprint version of the Epoch Times in his house once. I don't know if he actually reads it or if some yahoo he works with foisted a copy onto him. Sadly my dad is a weird libertarian type who'd probably believe that poo poo 
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hbag posted:
 You should play more Ace Attorney!emSparkly posted:My dad actually had a physical rear end newsprint version of the Epoch Times in his house once. I don't know if he actually reads it or if some yahoo he works with foisted a copy onto him. Sadly my dad is a weird libertarian type who'd probably believe that poo poo They send those out from time to time as a mass mailing to a huge area. I wouldn't wrap fisg in them.
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gdi GetCheapJorts.com isn't a real site Somewhere out there Kevin Smith is laughing at my misfortune in bottomwear pricing
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The Grimace posted:gdi GetCheapJorts.com isn't a real site Now you know the true might of advertising, sucka 
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The Grimace posted:gdi GetCheapJorts.com isn't a real site
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YT on Chrome desktop browser wasn't letting me watch anything anymore, even with some of the github scripts installed. Back to Firefox, which still seems to work with just Ublock. After uninstalling Chrome, an Edge browser popped up with a "We're sorry to see you go, please fill out this short survey to help us understand why," but there's no survey. The page is all hosed and broken. I'm inclined to blame Edge for this, but regardless, eat poo poo, Google!  Edit: Yeah, it's Edge. Survey works in FF.
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