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frytechnician
Jan 8, 2004

Happy to see me?

josh04 posted:

Any UKMT folk at the march in london today?

Yep, literally on the train now.

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frytechnician
Jan 8, 2004

Happy to see me?

Pistol_Pete posted:

Getting married today. It's that awkward time where it's still too early to put my suit on and leave the house, I don't really feel like doing anything else and I probably shouldn't start drinking just yet. Ugh, just want it to be over.

Getting married owns, my man. Hope you have an absolute belter!

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug
What march is it?

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
I hope Jaeluni Asjil is doing well, iirc she lives somewhere even more flood prone than me, and it's getting a bit silly around here.

Angepain posted:

from now on i will never leave the house without at least three concealed carry sandwiches hidden on my person. much more likely than guns to be helpful in an emergency, at least
Folding stock BLT.

smellmycheese posted:

I see the discourse has moved on to “Octopii are Antisemitic”
Yeah they've never really gotten over being called unclean.

frytechnician
Jan 8, 2004

Happy to see me?

happyhippy posted:

What march is it?

https://palestinecampaign.org/events/national-march-for-palestine-stop-the-war-on-gaza/

National March For Palestine. I went to the one last Saturday too which was peaceful, emotional and felt significant. For those that care about this issue, again I strongly encourage you to come out and protest if you can, especially those who might feel scared or intimidated - you are not alone.

Chubby Henparty
Aug 13, 2007


Have a lovely, hopefully indoor, wedding

OzyMandrill
Aug 12, 2013

Look upon my words
and despair

Pistol_Pete posted:

Getting married today. It's that awkward time where it's still too early to put my suit on and leave the house, I don't really feel like doing anything else and I probably shouldn't start drinking just yet. Ugh, just want it to be over.

A wedding is a party where technically, you're the host, but you have paid people (and got a best man/MoH) to do the poo poo-giving, it's literally your day to kick back and let it roll by now. Have fun!

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"

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frytechnician posted:

Yep, literally on the train now.

Same, gonna be a bit late but it looks like a big one. Can't imagine it's going to get anywhere fast.

e: obligatory wedding grats, have a great day!

Sir Sidney Poitier
Aug 14, 2006

My favourite actor


Monica Bellucci posted:

Make reasonably concealable sandwiches for you and the bride that you can have on your person. There can be a looong period between wedding and eats sometimes.

Also, enjoy the day.

Excellent advice. I had to dispatch one of the photographers to go get a scotch egg from the bride which I then hastily gobbled over a basin. I always make sure to arrive full at other people's weddings.

kecske
Feb 28, 2011

it's round, like always

Pistol_Pete posted:

Getting married today. It's that awkward time where it's still too early to put my suit on and leave the house, I don't really feel like doing anything else and I probably shouldn't start drinking just yet. Ugh, just want it to be over.

my hard earned but non-specific advice is that you will be hearing the same loving anecdotes about whatever happens today for the rest of your life

ellspurs
Sep 12, 2007
Kappa :o

Guavanaut posted:

I hope Jaeluni Asjil is doing well, iirc she lives somewhere even more flood prone than me, and it's getting a bit silly around here.

I was nearly stuck in that lovely puddle on the Ludlow bypass yesterday. People were driving into flowing water and then wondering why the car stopped working.

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

Pistol_Pete posted:

Getting married today. It's that awkward time where it's still too early to put my suit on and leave the house, I don't really feel like doing anything else and I probably shouldn't start drinking just yet. Ugh, just want it to be over.

If you have the time, go into a nail bar and get a manicure.
Today is the one day where most people will want photos of your hands. May as well make them look good.

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear

fuctifino posted:



I do love these community notes :allears:

what a snivelling oval office

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009


Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


Heartwarming

https://x.com/rubyjll/status/1715688650791387401

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016



Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Pistol_Pete posted:

Getting married today. It's that awkward time where it's still too early to put my suit on and leave the house, I don't really feel like doing anything else and I probably shouldn't start drinking just yet. Ugh, just want it to be over.

Congratulation!
No, don't start drinking!

Guavanaut posted:

I hope Jaeluni Asjil is doing well, iirc she lives somewhere even more flood prone than me, and it's getting a bit silly around here.


I'm fine, thanks Guav, not too bad down here and there's theoretically (according to the BBC) no rain or just a bit of drizzle for the next couple of days. Our worst nail-biting time is generally February. Right now I'm 15-20m from the river. At its worst I've been about 7m from the river thundering behind the backwall of the communal garden and just a handspan below it.

Stay safe all you demonstrators!

Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 14:53 on Oct 21, 2023

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

notaspy posted:

Most of the people I talk to are saying stuff like "this is what you need to do to get elected" or "they will be better in power".
Honestly the best way to understand Starmer is that he just wants to win. There is zero ideology of any kind other than that behind his actions.

I doubt he has any kind of plans for what to do when he does win, other than stuff he's been told will make him popular (with donors). Reeves wants to gut the welfare state and Streeting wants to dismantle the NHS and hand it over to private companies, but Starmer just wants to be The Biggest Manager and sit in the big chair and has zero loving idea what to do when he's there.

It explains why his ideological bent shifts so wildly between being a student supporter of Palestine and in a band, to being a lawyer and then director of prosecutions, to sricking closely to Corbyn and talking about the 'moral case for socialism' in his pledges, and then dropping them the second he was leader. He will say whatever he needs to say to win; but the problem is that when he does 'win,' being devoid of any ideology of his own and having the moral constitution of a goldfish, he will shift to the consensus of whatever group he feels will keep him 'winning.' I doubt he even sees it as duplicitous.

People are calling him a fascist, but he is so much worse than that - a mediocre fascist can be stymied by the contradictions in their ideology or exposed for the piece of poo poo they really are. Starmer has no such inner turmoil. He's a void. A blank. He's the kind of person who, if presented by push-polling from the Sun saying people wanted to bring back hanging (and was told by the Akehurst SpAd wing it would give his ratings a boost) he'd open a debate to be 'fair to the will of the people,' never for one second considering personally if he felt it was right or not.

Despite constantly being accused of being a populist, Corbyn realised that politicians have an ideological duty to make the case to the public for certain ideals, to shift public opinion and debate in a healthier direction. To advocate for the things you believe are right.

Starmer is 100% the kind of centrist who doesn't even understand the overton window - or worse, doesn't care about it. He just wants to win at any cost, and that makes him an incredibly dangerous person to be at the helm of a political party because of the things - like Reeves and Streeting - that he'll enable.

Bobby Deluxe fucked around with this message at 15:12 on Oct 21, 2023

Shyrka
Feb 10, 2005

Small Boss likes to spin!
https://twitter.com/Lowkey0nline/status/1715699831308497273

Flagchat.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"

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Update: Have heard multiple chants about Kier Starmer.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
Just left the solidarity march here in Dublin (speeches still going but I had to bail cause my leg is hosed after a long run this morning).

Probably the biggest march I've been to here since the Iraq War times, but idk I'm not great at estimating crowds when they're all moving in a line. Good vibes, lots of good dogs and kiddos

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016


loving hell. Sending a thick as dogshit copper to your door to debate global politics lol. Great country

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"

This title contains sponsored content.

Failed Imagineer posted:

Just left the solidarity march here in Dublin (speeches still going but I had to bail cause my leg is hosed after a long run this morning).

Probably the biggest march I've been to here since the Iraq War times, but idk I'm not great at estimating crowds when they're all moving in a line. Good vibes, lots of good dogs and kiddos

I got here about 1:30 and the march had reached Downing Street, people have been coming through Trafalgur Square for two hours now.

Mebh
May 10, 2010


Pistol_Pete posted:

Getting married today. It's that awkward time where it's still too early to put my suit on and leave the house, I don't really feel like doing anything else and I probably shouldn't start drinking just yet. Ugh, just want it to be over.

Just remember, 90 percent of marriage is yelling "What???" at each other from separate rooms.

This is why we built a second gaming pc in our living room so we can happily couch game and cuddle.

Hope your day goes swell!

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Mebh posted:

Just remember, 90 percent of marriage is yelling "What???" at each other from separate rooms.

Those are rookie numbers. Once you accumulate enough hearing damage you'll just yell WHAT at each other from opposite ends of the couch

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Pistol_Pete posted:

Getting married today. It's that awkward time where it's still too early to put my suit on and leave the house, I don't really feel like doing anything else and I probably shouldn't start drinking just yet. Ugh, just want it to be over.

Congratulations!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFiHVTFmKbo

Albinator
Mar 31, 2010

Failed Imagineer posted:

Those are rookie numbers. Once you accumulate enough hearing damage you'll just yell WHAT at each other from opposite ends of the couch

Can confirm

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004



I've worked with a few people who day labour on building sites and:

quote:

“Visit an average housebuilding site in this country,” he says, “and you’ll find no one is taking responsibility for the end outcome. Almost half the workforce is made up of hired guns who turn up, do stuff for a day rate, then disappear. That’s not conducive to having pride in your work, or a joined-up approach to producing a quality result. There’s a culture of: ‘If the other guy damages my work, it’s not my problem.’”

Is a big attitude with them. They say they're there to "get paid" and that's it. Also they say the same when they are on rail sites and they do a loving awful job so I can only imagine how bad they are on civil sites.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Obligatory:
https://twitter.com/NewHomeQuality1/status/1658750722811240448

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

Bit uncalled for.

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.
Just got home after two days attempting to travel north on public transport up the the east coast of northern england/scotland after being abroad for a week. Didn't have internet access the whole time so didn't know there was apparently a storm until we landed very bumpily in Newcastle. Has been quite an experience and RIP to the good people of Aberdeen who are apparently still basically cut off completely.

ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 17:40 on Oct 21, 2023

team overhead smash
Sep 2, 2006

Team-Forest-Tree-Dog:
Smashing your way into our hearts one skylight at a time

happyhippy posted:

What march is it?

Went to the local one in Birmingham. Good turnout though I’m sure the local news will focus on the 5 teens who climbed on top of a Primark and an Odeon rather than the hundreds/thousands of other protestors.

Endjinneer
Aug 17, 2005
Fallen Rib

bessantj posted:

I've worked with a few people who day labour on building sites and:

Is a big attitude with them. They say they're there to "get paid" and that's it. Also they say the same when they are on rail sites and they do a loving awful job so I can only imagine how bad they are on civil sites.

Any large contracting organisation is really just an investment bank with a handful of quantity surveyors attached. You have enough people on staff to submit tenders and that's it.
When the railway, hospital or housing estate lands, then you sub absolutely everything out. Plant, trades, site management, materials, the works. The risk/reward is that you have enough creditors lined up to cashflow the subbie costs until the project completes and the client pays. It's also why outfits like Carillion would have outrageous things like 180 day payment terms (90 days if you accept a 10% cut on the invoice).

Seen in that light, it's sort of understandable why that mentality has flourished. Nobody meaningfully involved in the construction process has any guarantee they'll be back tomorrow, let alone there until completion.

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004


Endjinneer posted:

Any large contracting organisation is really just an investment bank with a handful of quantity surveyors attached. You have enough people on staff to submit tenders and that's it.
When the railway, hospital or housing estate lands, then you sub absolutely everything out. Plant, trades, site management, materials, the works. The risk/reward is that you have enough creditors lined up to cashflow the subbie costs until the project completes and the client pays. It's also why outfits like Carillion would have outrageous things like 180 day payment terms (90 days if you accept a 10% cut on the invoice).

Seen in that light, it's sort of understandable why that mentality has flourished. Nobody meaningfully involved in the construction process has any guarantee they'll be back tomorrow, let alone there until completion.

It always amused me that Network Rail have got some really cool machines when it comes to the building and maintenance of a piece of track but they prefer to, as you say, sub it out. So they give a job to Colas, who go and get their plant form A.P Webb or Quattro or someone, tools and small plant from Sunbelt and workers from a bunch of different agencies.

The problem I have is that if you're a trackman then you'll be guaranteed the work for at least the length of the core job. So say a whole job will be 16 weeks but the actual ripping out and putting in of new track is 7 days. Well if you're assigned to that job then you'll be there for those 7 days. Once those 7 days are gone they there's probably another core job for another 7 days or a weekend or something and you're back at it for another guaranteed set of days. There's a real lack of workers out there at the minute. So when you get people with the "just here to get paid" attitude it makes the work that is already hard that much harder, it's frustrating.

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

Lmao

https://twitter.com/pippacrerar/status/1715781376660717955?s=46&t=m_nNbkNoHG4lLitcpyHReg

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!
Just remembered wasn't there supposed to be some Sunday paper exclusive exposing Jeremy Corbyn couple of weeks ago? What was it?

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I think it was the sunday sport so I assume it's revealing him disposing of his many sex dwarf body doubles after the election loss by feeding them to weasels.

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004


keep punching joe posted:

Just remembered wasn't there supposed to be some Sunday paper exclusive exposing Jeremy Corbyn couple of weeks ago? What was it?

He never actually liked Freddos.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
He went to the Sea Life aquarium in Bray and trained all the octopodes to be antisemitic and then they did a march. Every four people you see together at the march in Dublin was actually one octopus disguised as four people.

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

I'm fine, thanks Guav, not too bad down here and there's theoretically (according to the BBC) no rain or just a bit of drizzle for the next couple of days. Our worst nail-biting time is generally February. Right now I'm 15-20m from the river. At its worst I've been about 7m from the river thundering behind the backwall of the communal garden and just a handspan below it.
Good to hear :)

The river got within a couple of inches of the concrete bit of the road bridge that doesn't give, and the last time we had thousands of tons of incompressible fluid hitting a gap too small for it everyone had a very bad day, but fortunately it went back down after just flooding a lot of fields and a pedestrian walkway rather than actively destroying its banks.

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EvilHawk
Sep 15, 2009

LIVARPOOL!

Klopp's 13pts clear thanks to video ref


Tories are very likely to have a significant number of their "senior" MPs quit or lose their seats at the next election. The question is whether they go for Braverman post-Sunak, or if they get a new Cameron-like figure who's untainted by the current mess.

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