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To be honest I don’t have much issue with the Packers offense they are having the growing pains you would expect. The Packers D does need a change up at this point but we are riding that train to the end it would seem
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Febreeze posted:Maybe Bill is just fine It's unfortunate that Bill apparently gets to dine out on beating Zach Wilson and an extremely fraudulent Buffalo team (who also lost to Zach!), but so it goes I don't know why anyone, up to including Ron Rivera himself, would think he was going to be employed next season. The bigger discussion is the offense (and OL specifically) sucking rear end under offensive genius Eric Bienemy. I mean he wasn't handed a stacked deck to work with but Howell is on pace to destroy the David Carr sack record. Maybe I'm crazy but I think part of running a good offense is not using your QB to dig a hole to the center of the earth over the course of 17 weeks Docjowles fucked around with this message at 04:47 on Oct 23, 2023 |
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Howell kind of sucks along with the line sucking. There's only so much suck you can compensate for. There's no way in hell Rivera thinks he's employed after the season. Dude openly thought he would be done after last year.
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Ches Neckbeard posted:Howell kind of sucks along with the line sucking. There's only so much suck you can compensate for. Washington should have won today but it didn't help a receiver dropped a catchable ball on a 4th and manageable. Howell will hold the ball until he gets loving levelled too which is big balls but bad for longevity. It's kind of hard to blame Bienemy, or Howell or the line or Rivera. I've said before Rivera is just a good solid coach who's not elite in any facet. He'll turn around a dogshit joke of a franchise but he's not winning you a superbowl or winning with consistency. He'd be fine to like - go to the Raiders and unfuck them, get them back to being competitive etc but I wouldn't exactly be in a rush to hire him.
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He did not turn around the Commies though. They’re still a bad team. Losing Snyder is not on him.
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CharlestheHammer posted:It’s a QB league and they are playing functionally a rookie. You would like for them to start out like Strout is but realistically how likely is that Welcome to Falcons Fandom. That being said, heads may roll in Green Bay but Smith is safe this year.
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Ches Neckbeard posted:Howell kind of sucks along with the line sucking. There's only so much suck you can compensate for.
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Diva Cupcake posted:He did not turn around the Commies though. They’re still a bad team. Losing Snyder is not on him. On the other hand, this is now the second owner who has been ousted while Rivera is the coach, Maybe Rivera is secretly an owners grim reaper. Which team needs to hire him next? Browns? Chargers?
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Black Sunshine posted:Getting shithoused by one of the worst teams in the league starting a nobody at QB won't even matter because Mark Davis doesn't give a single gently caress about winning anyway. McDaniels with the Raiders is 5-0 against the Broncos and Patriots, and 4-15 against everyone else.
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solarjetman posted:McDaniels with the Raiders is 5-0 against the Broncos and Patriots, and 4-15 against everyone else. I wish we could beat the Broncos and Patriots consistently because wow I really hate those teams! *monkeys paw curls*
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So based on those win numbers, the Chargers need to hire McDaniels. That way they at least get 4 division wins a year.
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BlindSite posted:Washington should have won today but it didn't help a receiver dropped a catchable ball on a 4th and manageable. Howell will hold the ball until he gets loving levelled too which is big balls but bad for longevity. It's kind of hard to blame Bienemy, or Howell or the line or Rivera.
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:Other than holding the ball too long, Howell is doing great considering the OL in front of him is pure garbage. On most plays he has a solid 1 second to finish his drop, make his read, and throw the ball before he gets hit. Most of his throws look good considering the circumstances and it seems like he can make a good read, but its the classic "its hard to say because he is constantly running for his life and getting sacked too often to be sure". getting sacked too often is fully on him though. he's been sacked enough - and taken enough huge hits even on completions - that at this point he's got to be throwing it away. a 0 yard gain is better than any loss, even before considering the possibility of a fumble or injury with how often he's being sacked if you need a consistent >3 seconds of a clean pocket, you're just not a starting QB. I’m not sure of any examples of guys who held onto the ball too long and eventually fixed it, but without a change by Howell it's a fatal flaw. but even with no improvement to his game whatsoever he should be set for a 10 year backup career just based on what he's put on tape e: and while in other situations I'd consider blaming the OC, we know Bienemy has plenty of experience designing plays and gameplans based on fast throws given how the Chiefs' offense evolved with Mahomes. so maybe he's calling a ton of plays that don't have quick reads or safety valves? but I doubt it indigi fucked around with this message at 23:00 on Oct 23, 2023 |
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I am convinced that the next Chargers head coach will be Bobby Slowik or Ben Johnson
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a neat cape posted:I am convinced that the next Chargers head coach will be Bobby Slowik or Ben Johnson Look in your heart. You know the truth. It'll be Mike Macdonald.
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more like... robby slowik...
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a neat cape posted:I am convinced that the next Chargers head coach will be Bobby Slowik or Ben Johnson Would you be happy/neutral/unhappy if they made Moore the HC? Also, broadly, how has Moore been for your offense?
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a neat cape posted:I am convinced that the next Chargers head coach will be Bobby Slowik or Ben Johnson Brady Hoke might be looking for employment soon
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Ornery and Hornery posted:Would you be happy/neutral/unhappy if they made Moore the HC? I would not mind at all if they made Moore HC. The offense has looked better than Lombardi, particularly in the red zone. It's giving Herbert the ability to change plays at the line, which he never had the ability to do before. Obviously losing Mike Williams hurts, and I think Herbert is still growing into the offense. The lack of targets to Quinton Johnston is maddening when you see how open he's getting on tape, and the running game looks better but still not great.
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Rectal Placenta posted:Brady Hoke might be looking for employment soon I'm going to murder you for putting this in the universe
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Tbh the chargers should make Moore the HC right now. Theyre in a lame duck season and it shows.
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I agree. Do the necessary and make Moore the head coach. Surprised to hear that QJ has such good separation and yet is not getting targets. You’d think Herbie would be all about that.
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I'm sure Jeff Fisher is ready to return to LA
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Ornery and Hornery posted:I agree. Do the necessary and make Moore the head coach. I think Herbert is kind of locked in on Keenan Allen and to a lesser degree Josh Palmer, who has been stepping up in the wake of Mike Williams' injury. Problem is QJ is usually the third or fourth progression and the OL isn't giving Herbert the time to get to him. This was from yesterday. QJ is at the bottom of the screen. https://twitter.com/danielrpopper/status/1716592691814056412
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CapnAndy posted:I would argue that that's worse. A total rebuild can get bottom of the barrel teams into championship contention in no time, but mediocrity has inertia. You've got some bright spots, but your roster is mostly dudes who are good but not great. But they still need to get paid, and that cap space fills up bit by bit, and meanwhile where are you getting new good players from if you're drafting from the lower middle of the pack year after year, and you're not gonna trade your good players because they're good and why trade that for an unsure thing, and next thing you know it's been ten years and you've won the division twice and gotten bumped out in the wild card round both times.
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it’s weird that Staley played quarterback in college then became a defensive genius coach for exactly one season
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Can’t discount the difficulty of having a good defense when you only have prime Aaron Donald and Jalen Ramsey to work with.
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EmbryoSteve posted:Enough about the seahawks Pretty much. Except we're still close enough to the legion of boom and rwbs that there's probably more than two division titles.
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Diva Cupcake posted:Can’t discount the difficulty of having a good defense when you only have prime Aaron Donald and Jalen Ramsey to work with. i do typically agree with this but it is interesting how the Rams were #1 in the league under Staley's tutelage and ranked in the bottom half the year before and after despite having Donald and Ramsey both years. maybe a Rams fan can explain more on why this was the case cause i do not remember what was different besides Staley
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So what does Ron Rivera do when he's fired? Seems like too much of an established big shot to go back to being a coordinator.
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He's 61 years old, this might just be it for him
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Benne posted:He's 61 years old, this might just be it for him Plenty of time to turn around the Bears.
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Bears could do worse. And they probably will.
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epic bacon posted:i do typically agree with this but it is interesting how the Rams were #1 in the league under Staley's tutelage and ranked in the bottom half the year before and after despite having Donald and Ramsey both years. maybe a Rams fan can explain more on why this was the case cause i do not remember what was different besides Staley I think on some level you had good timing where the Vic Fangio stuff was a curveball on the way offenses were run around the league and his timing taking over a talented unit was particularly good.
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Ron Rivera will sit in the studio for a couple years, do a bunch of USAA commercials, then come out of retirement to coach the broncos or something.
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I'm gonna guess cushy analyst gig.
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He seems like a small-town mayor type, so I'm gonna go with that
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epic bacon posted:i do typically agree with this but it is interesting how the Rams were #1 in the league under Staley's tutelage and ranked in the bottom half the year before and after despite having Donald and Ramsey both years. maybe a Rams fan can explain more on why this was the case cause i do not remember what was different besides Staley They only had Ramsey half the year in 2019 and added Leonard Floyd and A’Shawn Robinson in the offseason. The big thing was the scheme though, Wade Phillips didn't really want to move on from his system and McVay wanted the Fangio stuff that was kicking his rear end so much. The most impressive part of what Staley did in 2020 was because of Covid the entirety of installs was done on video calls and they were able to get the entire defense up to speed on the scheme with pretty much no in person practice. Not sure what the gently caress happened to him with the Chargers.
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epic bacon posted:i do typically agree with this but it is interesting how the Rams were #1 in the league under Staley's tutelage and ranked in the bottom half the year before and after despite having Donald and Ramsey both years. maybe a Rams fan can explain more on why this was the case cause i do not remember what was different besides Staley There’s a few interesting quirks about that season - It was 2020 - First year with Jalen Ramsey, and they traded two of their other CBs away in the off season - Last year with Goff and a more plodding offense The team just looked very different in 2020 and played a more conservative offense with Goff so they got in a lot more low scoring games.
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Black Lighter posted:He seems like a small-town mayor type, so I'm gonna go with that He'll introduce a grant for a Community College to develop an actuarial program. He will achieve his dream nickname of Analytical Ron
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