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Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

The last place we lived had a... Not sure exactly, 36" height countertop and island? Definitely taller than the standard 30", but not 42" full bar height.

30" is too short for people over about 5'10" imo but probably pretty comfortable for someone 5'2-6"

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Sirotan
Oct 17, 2006

Sirotan is a seal.


I'm finishing up a kitchen remodel and can confirm that 36" is pretty much the standard height for kitchen counters and appliances like free standing ranges.

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

https://abc7.com/fake-grass-artificial-turf-california-environmental-concerns/13942121/

Cities in historically dry California can ban artificial grass now

It cites some valid stuff about micro plastics and apparently one type of artificial turf has been known to have pfas

The part that really grinds my gears is this :rolleyes:

quote:

Other concerns include plastic pollution in water runoff and extreme heat. Synthetic options tend to heat up significantly more than natural alternatives.

No poo poo Sherlock, I don't have to spray it with chlorinated filtered drinking water four days a week to keep it green, so there's no water in the soil to perform the evaporative cooling grass uses to keep from cooking itself alive

We have a 400 sq ft patch of artificial turf that effectively acts as erosion control and turns that area into a play area for the kids. I looked at the historical photos for our lot on Google Earth and before the previous owner installed turf there it was just dry barren rocky soil for 40+ years

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


Sloppy posted:

There's a variety of options besides a standard drainfield, check out the stuff Orenco makes.
Unfortunately, Orencos still need somewhere to drain the clean fluids, and our .09 acre lot isn't big enough for that. The first thing I did was ask the septic expert about them, and he said he'd done them for other installations, but it wouldn't work here. He's done a lot of complex systems in our area because of the combination of old houses and ancient septic systems that can't be brought up to code. For instance, I just discovered that we don't actually have a leach field at all. We have an 8 x 8 x 5 leach pit. In heavy clay soil.

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

I have relatives in the Seattle area and their entire HOA neighborhood doesn't give a single poo poo about green grass, it all goes brown in the dry summer like it naturally should and no one has irrigation systems. It rules. I wish more people would get on board with this. Take over your HOA and change the rules from within, if you can

Sundae
Dec 1, 2005
My favorite thing about HOA elections is that, like running for real office in CA, the only acceptable platform is “I will murder the local homeless population and raise your home values.”

right arm
Oct 30, 2011

Hadlock posted:

https://abc7.com/fake-grass-artificial-turf-california-environmental-concerns/13942121/

Cities in historically dry California can ban artificial grass now

It cites some valid stuff about micro plastics and apparently one type of artificial turf has been known to have pfas

The part that really grinds my gears is this :rolleyes:

No poo poo Sherlock, I don't have to spray it with chlorinated filtered drinking water four days a week to keep it green, so there's no water in the soil to perform the evaporative cooling grass uses to keep from cooking itself alive

We have a 400 sq ft patch of artificial turf that effectively acts as erosion control and turns that area into a play area for the kids. I looked at the historical photos for our lot on Google Earth and before the previous owner installed turf there it was just dry barren rocky soil for 40+ years

Lol california

GoGoGadgetChris
Mar 18, 2010

i powder a
granite monument
in a soundless flash

showering the grass
with molten drops of
its gold inlay

sending smoking
chips of stone
skipping into the fog
Synthetic turf was one of those ideas that depended on technology advancing during the life of the product. It was a way to pawn old toxic rubber tires onto consumers and promise that there would be a way to recycle it by the time the fields reached end of life.

The synthetic turf Council doesn't even try to argue that the crumb rubber exposes children to heavy metals including lead. They just argue that the exposure doesn't actually cause any harm.

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

I'm pretty sure ours is made from shredded polyester disco pants, dyed green. If you hop out of the pool and jump on the slope still soaking wet it's like a slip n slide with the added adventure of the risk of rugburn at the bottom if you weren't wet enough

There's a lot of variety of fake grass

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

I'd rather have a yard covered in ugly gravel and broken glass than fake turf grass, that poo poo sucks so much

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Fake grass is the worst
I would rather eat dog turds
Than deal with that poo poo

an iksar marauder
May 6, 2022

An iksar marauder glowers at you dubiously -- looks like quite a gamble.

Hadlock posted:

I'm pretty sure ours is made from shredded polyester disco pants, dyed green. If you hop out of the pool and jump on the slope still soaking wet it's like a slip n slide with the added adventure of the risk of rugburn at the bottom if you weren't wet enough

There's a lot of variety of fake grass

this post kinda looks like astroturfing

GoGoGadgetChris
Mar 18, 2010

i powder a
granite monument
in a soundless flash

showering the grass
with molten drops of
its gold inlay

sending smoking
chips of stone
skipping into the fog
The fake blades of grass have gotten really realistic and soft!

It's the other layers of the tiramisu that are no good.

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22
What’s wrong with xeriscape stuff

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

Yeah we are fully xeriscaped, or whatever. Bunch of native shrubs spaced 6+ ft apart and gravel etc.

In the back yard, immediately adjacent to the pool is a 10x12' flat spot that then slopes down at a 45° angle. In this exact use case it's nice to have some soft area for kids to roll around/rough-house on right next to the pool, since the pool is paved with pavers and the rest of the yard is either gravel or geotextile with beauty bark on top

It could be real grass but then I'd have to water, fertilize, mow etc and we have really poor rocky soil plus it's proven nothing grows there

GlyphGryph
Jun 23, 2013

Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.
If I lived somewhere dry I would opt for dirt/sometimes mud over gravel. I despise having gravel in my yard. It's even worse than wood chips, and I hate wood chips (my current yard is half wood chips, it's the worst. How long does it take these things to rot away on their own anyway? I'm feeling as many I can to the shrooms right now but there's no way I can get them all, there's so many)

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Hadlock posted:

Yeah we are fully xeriscaped, or whatever. Bunch of native shrubs spaced 6+ ft apart and gravel etc.

In the back yard, immediately adjacent to the pool is a 10x12' flat spot that then slopes down at a 45° angle. In this exact use case it's nice to have some soft area for kids to roll around/rough-house on right next to the pool, since the pool is paved with pavers and the rest of the yard is either gravel or geotextile with beauty bark on top

It could be real grass but then I'd have to water, fertilize, mow etc and we have really poor rocky soil plus it's proven nothing grows there

Astroturf is a really weird choice for that, why can't you just do the normal thing and convert the slope into a great amphitheater, with seats formed from the bones of your enemies

Zarin
Nov 11, 2008

I SEE YOU

QuarkJets posted:

Astroturf is a really weird choice for that, why can't you just do the normal thing and convert the slope into a great amphitheater, with seats formed from the bones of your enemies

Hadlock is very popular and thus has no enemies.

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Zarin posted:

Hadlock is very popular and thus has no enemies.

No enemies remaining you mean

mr.belowaverage
Aug 16, 2004

we have an irc channel at #SA_MeetingWomen
Meanwhile in Windsor, Ontario, the traffic islands are covered with artificial turf instead of grass. I assume because no maintenance required by the city.

Jenkl
Aug 5, 2008

This post needs at least three times more shit!

mr.belowaverage posted:

Meanwhile in Windsor, Ontario, the traffic islands are covered with artificial turf instead of grass. I assume because no maintenance required by the city.

No time to maintain grass in Windsor, too busy eating the best pizza. :discourse:

mr.belowaverage
Aug 16, 2004

we have an irc channel at #SA_MeetingWomen

Jenkl posted:

No time to maintain grass in Windsor, too busy eating the best pizza. :discourse:

I hope you’re not talking about Antonino’s. I have yet to find anything special about the pizza in Windsor.

Jenkl
Aug 5, 2008

This post needs at least three times more shit!

mr.belowaverage posted:

I hope you’re not talking about Antonino’s. I have yet to find anything special about the pizza in Windsor.

drat that's a first.

Antonino's is ok but expensive and not the best.

Capris. Koolinis. Franco's. Armando's. All great.

It's ok if you don't like it though. Nobody's perfect.

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

Why are all the streets in Windsor parallelograms

Jenkl
Aug 5, 2008

This post needs at least three times more shit!

Hadlock posted:

Why are all the streets in Windsor parallelograms

Cause there's no squares in Windsor!

Sundae
Dec 1, 2005

Hadlock posted:

Why are all the streets in Windsor parallelograms

Hadlock's hometown: :v:

https://www.google.ca/maps/place/Su...FwcjI?entry=ttu

Jenkl
Aug 5, 2008

This post needs at least three times more shit!

Lol where you have to ask if someone's address is in radians or degrees.

Sundae
Dec 1, 2005

Jenkl posted:

Lol where you have to ask if someone's address is in radians or degrees.

When I first saw that map:

First thought: "Wow, what inefficient land usage."
Second thought: "WTF all that just for golf courses in a desert?"
Third thought: "...there's a church at the center of each circle WHAT THE gently caress."


E: Psychological horror movie poo poo going on there...

Sundae fucked around with this message at 20:10 on Oct 22, 2023

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


Every afternoon the children come out and bounce their toy balls in unison.

Epitope
Nov 27, 2006

Grimey Drawer
Inverse black rock city

Sundae
Dec 1, 2005

Arsenic Lupin posted:

Every afternoon the children come out and bounce their toy balls in unison.

I looked the town up, and there are no kids to bounce the balls in the first place. The old TV show "Eerie Indiana" would look at this town and say NOPE, too unbelievable even for spooky kids' shows. Sun City is all my worst housing nightmares rolled into one; it's a 55+ unincorporated HOA-town. Your under-55 family and caretakers can live with you, but they are banned from making use of any amenities or facilities whatsoever unless they're 19+ and the HOA expects them to be escorted places. They have to pay extra fees, also, whenever they use the amenities. If the 55+ resident/owner dies, you can continue to own the place but can't live there anymore (spouses included) unless you are 55+ as well. You would have to either sell or rent to a 55+ tenant. There are guest restrictions and fees whenever anyone visits, including restrictions on how many times per year you can have visitors and their ages. It is a HOA community for the worst people, governed by the worst people.

Also :lol:, there's a clause in the bylaws that your spouse must also be 19+. I love rules that only have to be written down because someone was the loving worst.

Sundae fucked around with this message at 21:13 on Oct 22, 2023

GlyphGryph
Jun 23, 2013

Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.
The "circle neighbourhoods centered a community space surrounded by green areas" idea doesn't seem inherently bad to me, though, even if the implementation of that is the absolute worst in this instance

Sundae
Dec 1, 2005

GlyphGryph posted:

The "circle neighbourhoods centered a community space surrounded by green areas" idea doesn't seem inherently bad to me, though, even if the implementation of that is the absolute worst in this instance

That's the problem - it's the absolute worst in this instance, in the wrong place, in the wrong climate. It doesn't have to be efficient in a place with endless land, but this... this is just poo poo. Also, almost none of those circles are walkable to any sort of community space, especially for the age of the people involved and in this particular climate.

(Also, with every neighborhood looking entirely identical and all the streets in circles, I imagine there are lots of mentally-deteriorating elderly folks completely lost at night trying to find their way home while driving in endless circles down the wrong street.)

Democratic Pirate
Feb 17, 2010

Sundae posted:

Also, almost none of those circles are walkable to any sort of community space, especially for the age of the people involved and in this particular climate.

We’ve got a nice little cluster of shops near our house in the ‘burbs, and driving past it this afternoon I was telling my spouse how it would be 10x better if they put parking lots on both ends and blocked off street traffic to make a pedestrian center. My wife agreed it would be better, but we live in a hell state that broke 95 degrees in October and the average citizen is not equipped to walk just a block or two in those conditions.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


quote:

According to the census of 2000, there were 38,309 people, 23,490 households, and 12,520 families residing in the CDP. The population density was 2,639.5 inhabitants per square mile (1,019.1/km2). There were 27,731 housing units at an average density of 1,910.7 per square mile (737.7/km2). The racial makeup of the CDP was 98.4% White, 0.5% Black or African American, 0.1% Native American, 0.3% Asian, <0.1% Pacific Islander, 0.2% from other races, and 0.4% from two or more races. One percent (1.0%) of the population were Hispanic or Latino of any race.

...

In the CDP, 0.4% of the population were under the age of 18, 0.3% from 18 to 24, 2.0% from 25 to 44, 17.5% from 45 to 64, and 79.8% were 65 years of age or older.

It is a retirement community, but goddamn what a Boomerville.

Poldarn
Feb 18, 2011

I moved from a place with no trees in the yard to a place with...several trees in the yard. I know I have to rake the leaves in the back before it snows, but do I need to rake the pinecones in the front too? I imagine so, but I've never seen or heard of anyone raking pinecones.

unknown
Nov 16, 2002
Ain't got no stinking title yet!


Well, considering that raking is something that only has started in the past century or so, I'm sure that mother nature will survive just fine if you don't.

That being said, how nice do you like your lawn to be? It's purely a cosmetic thing to rake. Pinecones can be a pain if you have kids (especially if they throw them)

George H.W. Cunt
Oct 6, 2010





I lived next to Sun City in the 90s and I made the mistake of trying to do a Boy Scout fundraiser there exactly once. Buncha angry rear end olds that won’t help a kid out. gently caress Sun City

Spoderman
Aug 2, 2004

George H.W. oval office posted:

I lived next to Sun City in the 90s and I made the mistake of trying to do a Boy Scout fundraiser there exactly once. Buncha angry rear end olds that won’t help a kid out. gently caress Sun City

rockers and boy scouts united and strong

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stealie72
Jan 10, 2007

stealie72 posted:

This is some pro level <homophobic slur> right here.

Do you trust fund maoists really enjoy the scent of your own farts that much?

Poldarn posted:

I moved from a place with no trees in the yard to a place with...several trees in the yard. I know I have to rake the leaves in the back before it snows, but do I need to rake the pinecones in the front too? I imagine so, but I've never seen or heard of anyone raking pinecones.
Do you have a mulching mower/can you add mulching blades to your mower? Congratulations, you don't have to rake and you've added some natural feed to your lawn for the spring. Your lawn will look like it's got shredded leaves on it, but whatever. I haven't raked since I moved away from my first house with the postage stamp lawn.

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