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I’m watching Fall Brawl ‘93 and there’s a pre-tape where Cactus Jack is cutting a promo on Vader, but every time Jack says “Big Van Vader” they mute out the “Big Van” part. Well, I assume that what he’s saying. What’s up with that? Also the pre-tape has ended and now Jack is not wrestling Vader he’s wrestling a Japanese man that I’m pretty sure is not Japanese. WCW sure was a wild company.
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Sandman McMahon posted:I’m watching Fall Brawl ‘93 and there’s a pre-tape where Cactus Jack is cutting a promo on Vader, but every time Jack says “Big Van Vader” they mute out the “Big Van” part. Well, I assume that what he’s saying. What’s up with that? He was named "Big Van Vader" in NJPW. NJPW held the rights to the name, so he couldn't use it in the US, but he could be just "Vader" and they couldn't do anything about that.
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Oct 23, 2023 02:40
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I’m only through about page 380 or so but massrafter is your podcast up anywhere else these days? All the links I’ve hit so far were busted.
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Oct 23, 2023 03:30
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he was hit with multiple DMCA violations for using jan terri's tracks as bumper music
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Oct 23, 2023 03:38
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the yeti posted:I’m only through about page 380 or so but massrafter is your podcast up anywhere else these days? All the links I’ve hit so far were busted. Should be up here, I still pay the hosting because I tell myself "I'll record again soon. Any day now." https://www.spreaker.com/show/the-monumental-podcast
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Oct 23, 2023 03:50
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MassRafTer posted:Should be up here, I still pay the hosting because I tell myself "I'll record again soon. Any day now." You're also up on Spotify. That's how I've been listening the last few months.
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I was talking with a friend about Sting retiring and we ended up talking about Dustin & Sting having a match. Looked it up on cagematch, and they have never had a 1v1, they haven't wrestled with or against each other in a tag match since 95. They were a constant part of a 3 person team (rotating another baby-faced in & out) from like 92 to 95. There's one six way match they were in, but it seems crazy that for 2 guys who wrestled as long as they have, that they haven't crossed paths in almost 30 years.
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syzpid posted:I was talking with a friend about Sting retiring and we ended up talking about Dustin & Sting having a match. Looked it up on cagematch, and they have never had a 1v1, they haven't wrestled with or against each other in a tag match since 95. They were a constant part of a 3 person team (rotating another baby-faced in & out) from like 92 to 95. I guess it makes sense once you put the timelines together. They were both babyfaces in WCW and wouldn't have had a reason to wrestle each other, then Dustin went off to WWF and Sting stayed in WCW until it died. I bet if the Seven gimmick didn't die an immediate death, they would have done some kind of Sting/Seven thing. I assume they were in TNA at the same time as well, but obviously on much different trajectories if they were. Kind of surprised we never got Cody/Dustin/Sting as a trio at any point in AEW, though if Cody was still around now I could see it happening.
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Oct 23, 2023 17:59
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Learning that Seven was meant to be a Dark City gimmick made it make a lot more sense. Dustin was actually really into the gimmick too, but it was too expensive to maintain and the vignettes just didn't work. Wild times.
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Erin M. Fiasco posted:Learning that Seven was meant to be a Dark City gimmick made it make a lot more sense. Dustin was actually really into the gimmick too, but it was too expensive to maintain and the vignettes just didn't work. Wild times. seven also came off as a pedophile
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Yes, hence the comment about the vignettes not working. Apparently they were supposed to represent corruption of the innocent or his own inner child or something? lmfao
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Wait was Van supposed to be Vader's first name?? This literally never occurred to me until just now that Big Van might not be a physical description of him (because he's built like a big van, see)
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Van Vader is Dutch for "of/from the father," implying that he was sent by God.
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HonorableTB posted:Wait was Van supposed to be Vader's first name?? This literally never occurred to me until just now that Big Van might not be a physical description of him (because he's built like a big van, see) Or it's Dutch and he's Big (of the) Vader  Edit: answer above mine is far more accurate and less jokey
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What’s Darth dutch for
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njpw made up a whole backstory about big van vaders name by making up a japanese folktale about a man named vader and having go nagai design his badass elephant mask
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That’s so awesome. Vader’s so awesome. Long live the Masters of the Powerbomb 
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History Comes Inside! posted:What’s Darth dutch for Dark, iIrc
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The only Vader I saw growing up was him being clowned on by Kane, including calling himself a piece of poo poo in a post match interview. He deserved better than that.
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Oct 23, 2023 19:47
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Admiral Joeslop posted:The only Vader I saw growing up was him being clowned on by Kane, including calling himself a piece of poo poo in a post match interview. Specifically called himself a BIG FAT PIECE OF poo poo and that was basically it for him in the US
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Oct 23, 2023 19:52
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At least it ended on a high note when he squashed heath slater
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Vader in WWF is such fuckin bullshit. Probably the worst thing Vince McMahkn has ever done.
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Big is Dutch for "piglet," implying that Big Van Vader is a little pig sent by God.
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so Vader is Piglet's Darktooth
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Sandman McMahon posted:Vader in WWF is such fuckin bullshit. Probably the worst thing Vince McMahkn has ever done. I feel like the murder and rape cover ups were worse
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Elephant Ambush posted:I feel like the murder and rape cover ups were worse Yeah there is a Marianas Trench worth of distance between Vince's worst booking decisions and his active committing and covering-up of crimes.
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vince and shawn michaels screwed vader
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hulk hogan refusing to sell the vader bomb didnt help him either
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Elephant Ambush posted:I feel like the murder and rape cover ups were worse those were pretty bad, but come on. its not even close....
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Snuka isn't even a real word.
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Superstar Jimmy Snuka Twonior
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Elephant Ambush posted:I feel like the murder and rape cover ups were worse yeah hes a real jerk
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The more I hear about this Vince McMahon fellow, the less I care for him!!!
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and yet if it wasnt for vince none of you would be here
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:and yet if it wasnt for vince none of you would be here im a mcmahon? 
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haunted bong posted:im a mcmahon? Sup bro
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MassRafTer posted:Should be up here, I still pay the hosting because I tell myself "I'll record again soon. Any day now." Thanks kindly 
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Vadar also never bathed and smelled like the biggest piece of poo poo according to everyone
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Vader also didn't know how to work less stiff and hard hitting for the US which 100% was gonna get him in trouble in WWE Really ending up in All Japan was the best for all involved
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