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What is it about some people that makes them want to ride in a car that drives itself? The entire concept is so alien and abhorrent to me. Is there some kind of age point at which you decide “yah, I’m down with that.” ?? Maybe not an upper age range, but a lower one? I’m in my fifties and not only do I not want that ever, I am deeply distrustful and suspicious of anyone who does.
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Oct 24, 2023 06:34
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MrMojok posted:What is it about some people that makes them want to ride in a car that drives itself? Basically the promise of all technology, people that can't afford servants want them. A washing machine, a dishwasher, a Roomba, FSD, AI, it's all the same.
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Oct 24, 2023 06:39
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I would much rather have decent public transportation, but I've rented some cars that had intelligent cruise control and lane following and it's definitely a distant second to the public transport but it's far and away better than driving. I really loving hate driving
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Oct 24, 2023 06:40
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Not having to worry about parking near to a destination and just getting a car to drop you off and return home or to some other parking area nearby would be pretty neat, not gonna lie. But realistically in a city with a well designed and efficient transit network it is probably not necessary. But good luck getting one of those!
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Oct 24, 2023 06:42
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My car does have this lanekeeping thing where if I were to drift off and cross the dotted line, it does this obnoxious jerking thing and a warning pops up on the dashboard, but that’s as much as I’m willing to take. I have been trying to turn it off, but have so far been unsuccessful. And yes, I do have a blinking 12:00 on all appliances in my house.
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Oct 24, 2023 06:45
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MrMojok posted:What is it about some people that makes them want to ride in a car that drives itself? Because drivings just a poo poo, often stressful task you need to do to get from point a to b? Sure I don't trust Ai currently to do a lot of it, but like I dont really get people who like to drive. Particularly peak hour in the city or at hundreds of ks distance at a time. Walking fun, riding a bikes fun, drivings just tedious.
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Oct 24, 2023 06:53
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Drunks.
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Oct 24, 2023 06:59
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I really really like automatic distance control.
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Oct 24, 2023 07:01
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Because public transportation throughout the US is a pipe dream in our current political climate, and manual driving is a no-go for me. But, I’m also never gonna get in any of Elon’s cars, so 🤷♂️
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Oct 24, 2023 07:05
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MrMojok posted:What is it about some people that makes them want to ride in a car that drives itself? My MS leaves me frequently but unpredictably lightheaded. It's also done some cognitive damage to my spatial processing (among other cognitive poo poo) and of course comes with tons of fatigue as well. I'm also on a number of drugs for chronic pain that help me tolerate existing but don't play nice with operating heavy machinery. I seldom feel confident about getting behind the wheel despite knowing I'm a more attentive and conscientious driver than a lot of ableds on the road around me. I happen to live in a pretty typically American mid-sized city built around cars. Having actual full self-driving would be huge for me. It would open up so much opportunity in so many aspects of my life and alleviate a major burden on my spouse.
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Oct 24, 2023 07:35
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Ok, so AI movies actually are going to be loving incredible. Musk was right about ONE THING...
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Oct 24, 2023 07:50
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Being able to nap, work, text message or watch videos on the commute to work has some obvious appeal. I spend about 2-2.5 hrs a day commuting and it'd be nice to get that time back in some fashion. I've been looking at public transit options, but that's 2 trains and a bus I'd have to transfer between, the hours wouldn't work if I stay late, and it'd cost about the same $400/month I'm already spending on transit, albeit with less car wear and tear. Working FSD on an electric vehicle seems like it'd be best of both worlds. Though I do wonder how this whole thing plays out. A lot of the tesla stock being so absurdly high is betting on them being the first to FSD. There's not really losing that race unless someone else pulls it off first, and I'm not sure anyone truely does. At the same time, you've already got musk selling a FSD package even though it's not ready and there's robotaxis allowed to operate as long as it's online and someone could operate it remotely if it gets stuck. I don't think the govt is going to put its foot down here, we're probably going to be dealing with lovely half-assed FSD on the roadways unless it generates more lawsuits than profits once it's already out in the wild.
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Oct 24, 2023 07:52
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The Awesomesaurus posted:Because public transportation throughout the US is a pipe dream in our current political climate, and manual driving is a no-go for me. This is just so wild to me as a euro guy. I've heard this said many many times, but I have no idea why public transportation in the USA has this reputation, because in my extremely limited experience (a couple of times in New York and San Francisco on business) it was fine. What is the problem, exactly? Are there not enough routes to provide good coverage? Is it too expensive? Too unreliable? Or is it just a thing of "yeah it works if you're in Boston or New York or something, but doesn't exist if you're in any smaller town or city"?
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Oct 24, 2023 08:13
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Waymo and Uber are supposedly ahead of Tesla, and Ford and GMs auto driving stuff is supposed to be pretty close to Tesla's, with a better sensor suite, and restricted to highway driving. Also the NHTSA and DoJ both appear to be breathing down Tesla's neck for their reckless implementation of the tech. So, yeah, no, they're not going to win that race, and they're not in the lead just because their dipshit CEO won't shut his loving mouth about it.
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Oct 24, 2023 08:14
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Gorgar posted:I'm waiting for the moment when over 50% of all Cybertrucks ever built have been totaled. you mean when the autonomous tesla semi pulling the truck carrier jack knifes trying to run over a kid it spotted, and the cybertrucks it was carrying spill out over the pavement?
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Oct 24, 2023 08:17
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Shaman Tank Spec posted:This is just so wild to me as a euro guy. I've heard this said many many times, but I have no idea why public transportation in the USA has this reputation, because in my extremely limited experience (a couple of times in New York and San Francisco on business) it was fine. What is the problem, exactly? Are there not enough routes to provide good coverage? Is it too expensive? Too unreliable? Or is it just a thing of "yeah it works if you're in Boston or New York or something, but doesn't exist if you're in any smaller town or city"? Boston, NYC, Chicago, D.C. have functional public transit, the other large cities have something, but none of them, save maybe NYC metro, has those services into the suburbs where most of the population lives. LA especially is notorious for not having poo poo, despite some pretty huge efforts to build something acceptable.
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Oct 24, 2023 08:18
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Rad Russian posted:Hummer EV got approved. So Cybertruck will breeze through. Requirements are not that stringent here in the US, although EU is a bit more serious about car weight classification for consumer-level vehicles. This loving piece of poo poo "car" will never be sold in the EU.
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Oct 24, 2023 08:35
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Shaman Tank Spec posted:This is just so wild to me as a euro guy. I've heard this said many many times, but I have no idea why public transportation in the USA has this reputation, because in my extremely limited experience (a couple of times in New York and San Francisco on business) it was fine. What is the problem, exactly? Are there not enough routes to provide good coverage? Is it too expensive? Too unreliable? Or is it just a thing of "yeah it works if you're in Boston or New York or something, but doesn't exist if you're in any smaller town or city"? You experienced what are probably the two best public transit systems in the entire country. Here's a recent trip I took on a public bus system that I'd still rank as extremely good compared to how it is elsewhere in the country 
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Oct 24, 2023 08:38
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Self driving opens a world of glorious car surfing and ghost riding opportunities and the succulent schadenfreude that comes with it As Internet Aficionados you should be embracing this hell feature
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Oct 24, 2023 09:16
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Hasn't "AI wrote this hilariously bad script" been a meme for more than a decade? Also, wasn't Elsagate caused in part by AI getting into a weird loop of thinking "main character gets pregnant and is stabbed by a doctor" is a compelling narrative for a children's show?
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Oct 24, 2023 09:22
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Songbearer posted:Self driving opens a world of glorious car surfing and ghost riding opportunities and the succulent schadenfreude that comes with it Well the main problem is that Telsa "FSD" only allows ghost riding in that riding in it turns you into a ghost.
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Oct 24, 2023 09:42
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has anyone said "cy-boer-truck" yet
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MrMojok posted:What is it about some people that makes them want to ride in a car that drives itself? Honestly it seems more likely that autonomous cars will become feasible before someone puts bus routes near my house  It would also be nice to one day be able to sleep or just be able to hang out with my family while on long drives. That said, Tesla probably isn't going to be the company to make that a reality unless Musk dies or something.
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Oct 24, 2023 10:40
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MrMojok posted:What is it about some people that makes them want to ride in a car that drives itself? I like spending my commute poo poo posting/watching videos. Also due to crippling insomnia I'm sometimes so sleepy in the morning that I wouldn't trust myself behind a wheel. A self driving car would allow me to have this same experience without being beholden to my city's awful public transport schedule. Although even then, a well run public transport system is better overall.
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Oct 24, 2023 10:56
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Make self driving buses and trains 
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Oct 24, 2023 10:59
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It'd be nice to have a public transportation system that works in this country to get all these people that admittedly hate driving and never want to do it off the road
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Oct 24, 2023 11:08
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I used to test self-driving vehicles for one of the 'big' companies and I can confidently say that robits are safer drivers than the average American ever will be. They're also very passive in the name of safety, which doesn't work for the Mad Max style driving of the average American.
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Oct 24, 2023 11:25
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Listen if I can't spit guzzoline directly into my engine while swinging from a big stick while my car self drives into a swirling vortex of cybertruck debris as every car assumes the other cars are black children and automatically accelerate to 500mph in 3 seconds to get them then we might as well stop this nonsense right here
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Oct 24, 2023 11:45
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MrMojok posted:What is it about some people that makes them want to ride in a car that drives itself? IMO Long distance highway driving would be aided by self-driving edit: I live in the South and we have poo poo public transportation, including trains.
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Oct 24, 2023 12:01
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dr_rat posted:Because drivings just a poo poo, often stressful task you need to do to get from point a to b? Sure I don't trust Ai currently to do a lot of it, but like I dont really get people who like to drive. Particularly peak hour in the city or at hundreds of ks distance at a time. Walking fun, riding a bikes fun, drivings just tedious. I like, even love driving at times. I just hate other drivers. But my god, driving in a densely packed city is terrible. Going 2 miles in 30 minutes, watching pedestrians and bikers easily passing you as you inch through gridlock. Fun!
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Oct 24, 2023 12:16
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MrMojok posted:What is it about some people that makes them want to ride in a car that drives itself? Getting into a car is by far the most dangerous activity that the average American engages in every day. The statistical risks of human-operated vehicles are staggering--100 Americans die and 7,500 are injured every single day from motor vehicle crashes. The statistical likelihood of being in such an accident increases significantly with drinking (as has been mentioned) but also with distracted driving or driving while tired. A tired or distracted driver is, on average, as dangerous as a drunk one. You may protest that you do not do these things. You're a perfect driver--you've never even had a fender bender. But I ask how many bad drivers do you see every single day? I can tell you as someone who did a lot of driving recently there are a lot of bad drivers out there on the road. These people are unsafe and they make you less safe. Even a perfect human driver cannot react to every possible scenario. We are on the cusp of having the technology to drastically reduce the dangers of driving. Non-Tesla autonomous driving systems such as Waymo, Pony, etc. are already likely safer drivers than humans on average in many scenarios. These systems do not get distracted or tired. They don't hesitate in uncertain situations. Using lidar, radar, and other systems, they have a complete 360 degree view of the road. They have better response times than even professional race car drivers. Getting these systems into cars will save lives. Every drunk, tired, or distracted driver they remove from the road is a statistical hazard averted. And yes these systems are not perfect. I know there are lots of edge cases where you can confuse the cars using a traffic cone placed directly in front of it and there are all sorts of questions around legal liability when one of these systems does in fact cause an accident which will still happen. These are things we can solve though.
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Rosalind posted:Getting into a car is by far the most dangerous activity that the average American engages in every day. The statistical risks of human-operated vehicles are staggering--100 Americans die and 7,500 are injured every single day from motor vehicle crashes. The statistical likelihood of being in such an accident increases significantly with drinking (as has been mentioned) but also with distracted driving or driving while tired. A tired or distracted driver is, on average, as dangerous as a drunk one. I can hear the dark synthwave music and 1970's PSA voice in this post
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Oct 24, 2023 13:05
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Rosalind posted:We are on the cusp of having the technology to drastically reduce the dangers of driving. Non-Tesla autonomous driving systems such as Waymo, Pony, etc. are already likely safer drivers than humans on average in many scenarios. These systems do not get distracted or tired. They don't hesitate in uncertain situations. Using lidar, radar, and other systems, they have a complete 360 degree view of the road. They have better response times than even professional race car drivers. The biggest difference is that these systems actually keep the driver engaged like the Tesla system is supposed to (but doesn't)
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gschmidl posted:This loving piece of poo poo "car" will never be sold in the EU. Oh, wait, I'm now now being told that the EU wants it so the car can avoid children.
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Oct 24, 2023 14:38
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Rosalind posted:Using lidar, radar, and other systems, they have a complete 360 degree view of the road. They have better response times than even professional race car drivers okay but what if the world's most divorced man decides that these vehicles don't need lidar or radar actually
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Oct 24, 2023 15:43
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Further Reading posted:His own article won't call him a founder of his favourite companies because he bought them from the people who actually founded them. He's not even the founder of X, the Everything App. He had to buy a social media website and turn it into X. Probably because every software engineer he talked to said an everything app was a stupid idea.
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e: wrong thread
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kazil posted:e: wrong thread that's right move it along pal
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Woke mind virus tried to get me but I was saved by my love for MUSK
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if the simpsons brought back hank scorpio he would be voiced by elon musk
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