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Stelle’s really what sold me on the game, her weirdness is charming. I thought the trailblazer would be a blank slate, maybe up to a persona protag level, but instead she has a strong personality - for every boring hero straightman you get the weirdo and hotblooded dialogue options, and it won’t even pretend to let you like Sampo. I prefer the female trailblazer just cause she feels weirder, I think she’s less emotive and more spacey in her expressions than the male trailblazer’s animations and it really works for the raccoon in humansuit energy. Also some people continue to lose their minds over Topaz and it’s so funny that I’m definitely rolling on her. Someone even spent actual real world money $20 on tumblr just to broadcast their post about her being a class traitor and anyone who likes her being a corporate sellout irl. to thousands of people. (tumblr’s pvp is paying to force your quotes on everyone’s threads vs SA’s avatar pvp).
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Wow Yukong's character quest was really gay too???? great quest
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coolusername posted:Stelle’s really what sold me on the game, her weirdness is charming. I thought the trailblazer would be a blank slate, maybe up to a persona protag level, but instead she has a strong personality - for every boring hero straightman you get the weirdo and hotblooded dialogue options, and it won’t even pretend to let you like Sampo. they could have used that 20 bucks to roll for her instead what a shame
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coolusername posted:Stelle’s really what sold me on the game, her weirdness is charming. I thought the trailblazer would be a blank slate, maybe up to a persona protag level, but instead she has a strong personality - for every boring hero straightman you get the weirdo and hotblooded dialogue options, and it won’t even pretend to let you like Sampo. Tumblr Blaze is honestly a pretty great system, I don't think I've ever seen a Blazed post where it wasn't at least funny that somebody spent the money.  Also man, Topaz is a debt collector and therefore very much Part Of The Problem, but we already have like 6 cops, one of whom became a dictator, a nepo millionaire or billionaire (Asta), and a loving trillionaire at least(Herta), along with a military general, and that's just for, like, evil poo poo that's generally legal. Not even getting into the 3-5 (I really need to get around to Jingliu's quest, I'm sorta guessing on her and Luocha), I guess I'll settle on "terrorists," who commit crimes that cause devastation on a planetary scale personally, or that Jingliu brainwashed and tortured a guy. Oh and then also Sampo is a scam artist. Point is Topaz is bad but not even "pass up the hot girl with the treasure radar" bad, let alone "spend money to rant about it" bad. (Also I'm pretty sure Welt used to technically be a CEO, albeit like Bronya's dictatorship a generally benevolent one. He also gets a pass for the production of a giant ninja robot anime, the tie-in "most ninja energy drink on the market," and the actual giant ninja robot like in the anime, and for the same sort of Hero poo poo the other playable Class Villains get.) Captain France fucked around with this message at 11:03 on Oct 24, 2023 |
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Oct 24, 2023 11:00
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Zurai posted:It's supposed to be 1:2 rate:damage from gear, which is really 1:1 because crit damage values are twice the crit rate values. Most characters have a base of 5% rate and 50% damage, so the example is 35:110. Still out of the "perfect ratio" but not quite as lopsided. The base stats are irrelevant and I think you meant after gear and buffs. It's very easy to compare and prove the overall 1:2 ratio. Eg: 35% of 110 = 38.5 while the perfect ratio shifts 20 crit damage to 10 crit chance for 45% of 90 = 40.5. shrach fucked around with this message at 11:36 on Oct 24, 2023 |
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Oct 24, 2023 11:25
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I do like on the flipside, to us its funny. to the other characters, the few times you control them, and they interact with trailblaze, they see her sarcasm and jokes as things she puts up so she doesn't get to close to anyone.
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Oct 24, 2023 11:26
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GateOfD posted:I do like on the flipside, to us its funny. Well, their literal first memory is being abandoned by their mentor/mother figure in the middle of a huge life-or-death crisis. Can't really blame them for not seeming to really trust anyone after that.
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coolusername posted:Stelle’s really what sold me on the game, her weirdness is charming. I thought the trailblazer would be a blank slate, maybe up to a persona protag level, but instead she has a strong personality - for every boring hero straightman you get the weirdo and hotblooded dialogue options, and it won’t even pretend to let you like Sampo. Speaking from personal experience there's some users even on this site that take the whole leftist ideology to a ridiculous extent.
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Oct 24, 2023 12:47
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the guy who said he was uninstalling if topaz was portrayed sympathetically was lying i think
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....Jingliu? Are you getting my texts? Plz respond...
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Kale posted:Speaking from personal experience there's some users even on this site that take the whole leftist ideology to a ridiculous extent. Personally, I gave on Arknights after Nearl was revealed to be a liberal.
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Captain France posted:Tumblr Blaze is honestly a pretty great system, I don't think I've ever seen a Blazed post where it wasn't at least funny that somebody spent the money. I was rooting for topaz over the dictator for life lying to the population about her mother 
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Kale posted:Speaking from personal experience there's some users even on this site that take the whole leftist ideology to a ridiculous extent.
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I hate Topaz's dumb outfit but treasure radar + pet warp trotter mean I gotta have her.
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Oct 24, 2023 13:31
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IMO, if you truly hate the IPC, the only moral thing to do is to stop logging in everyday to get the daily jade pay from the MTURK style tasks in the interastral peace guide. Show conviction!
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Oct 24, 2023 13:41
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if I could pull for numby alone I would but them's the breaks sadly it'll have to wait for topaz' rerun due to my jade situation 
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Oct 24, 2023 13:54
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This week free tickets gave me Gepard and E5 Asta. I have enough currency to get his lightcone but I was holding off in case I got Bronya.
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Valleyant posted:I was rooting for topaz over the dictator for life lying to the population about her mother It's very important that we take this woman who ordered the forced imprisonment of half the population in an underground gulag for a decade and betrayed our entire society and the human race as a whole because a magic rock drove her crazy and enshrine her as a revered hero because for propaganda purposes and tradition, even though if you're just going to lie to everyone and make poo poo up to maintain stability it would be just as easy to enshrine Bronya as the hero who uncovered Cocolia's perfidy and overthrew her before she killed everyone - which would still be somewhat of a lie, but much closer to the actual truth.
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Oct 24, 2023 14:18
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The more hosed up and twisted the cast gets...The better.
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Oct 24, 2023 14:20
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that doesnt resolve it at all because the lie is to make it so cocolia's loyalists don't get mad i can like and respect the writing choice they just do a poor job showing or even explaining why they have to do it. on the other hand, actual conflict is badass
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Oct 24, 2023 14:21
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if I recall the whole situation is more an artifact of the Belabog rewrite; the shuttering of the Underworld was originally supposed to have happened HUNDREDS of years ago, well before Cocolia's reign
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Excelzior posted:tbh that's more an artifact of the Belabog rewrite; the shuttering of the Underworld was originally supposed to have happened HUNDREDS of years ago, well before Cocolia's reign
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Ibram Gaunt posted:The more hosed up and twisted the cast gets...The better. Let Luocha cook https://twitter.com/DailyHI3Chibi/status/1713076561199636876
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Endorph posted:tbf that rewrite would probably make it even dumber because then youd have everyone hanging out happily and playing pokemon within a month of the end of hundreds of years of oppression  true it would definitely have limited the opportunities for followup content
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Endorph posted:that doesnt resolve it at all because the lie is to make it so cocolia's loyalists don't get mad We see almost zero of the political situation in Belobog and there's no indication about Cocolia's loyalists being a potential problem besides IIRC an 11th hour justification for why everyone has to pretend that Cocolia wasn't a horrific monster, so it's a pretty unsatisfying conclusion to what is otherwise basically entirely a black and white storyline. Even Luofu's cut-up and truncated storyline does a better job of making the desires of the factions at play apparent and making it understandable why people might support the antagonist in some way - see all the people who were rooting for Dan Shu to get more. Kanos fucked around with this message at 14:29 on Oct 24, 2023 |
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Oct 24, 2023 14:26
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Kanos posted:We see almost zero of the political situation in Belobog and there's no indication about Cocolia's loyalists being a potential problem besides IIRC an 11th hour justification for why everyone has to pretend that Cocolia wasn't a horrific monster, so it's a pretty unsatisfying to what is otherwise basically entirely a black and white storyline. The most you got was to say no she sucked at the end of the museum questline and then bronya censors most of it anyways
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Endorph posted:tbf that rewrite would probably make it even dumber because then youd have everyone hanging out happily and playing pokemon within a month of the end of hundreds of years of oppression to be fair, pokemon is pretty fun
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Belobog at that point was pretty much going into extinction phase. Any sort of massive unrest could literally end the place. Bronya with the limited information she had decided it would be safer to have people believe in the lie rather than have them distrust the whole government structure. Maybe she might have acted different if she knew outside contact would happen decently quickly. But she made the choice to save society at the cost of martyring a hosed up person. Frostpunk 101, do hosed up things to save the city
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Kanos posted:We see almost zero of the political situation in Belobog and there's no indication about Cocolia's loyalists being a potential problem besides IIRC an 11th hour justification for why everyone has to pretend that Cocolia wasn't a horrific monster, so it's a pretty unsatisfying conclusion to what is otherwise basically entirely a black and white storyline. there's a fair amount of writer's fiat when it comes to belobog politics but I don't think it's much of a stretch to believe that a leader like Cocolia would be lionized by a not insignificant number of people in a civilization where stable leadership can make the difference between survival and death. imagine how much easier the IPC's job would have been if Bronya had told the truth with no real evidence beyond "just trust me bro she was up to poo poo."
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UHD posted:there's a fair amount of writer's fiat when it comes to belobog politics but I don't think it's much of a stretch to believe that a leader like Cocolia would be lionized by a not insignificant number of people in a civilization where stable leadership can make the difference between survival and death. imagine how much easier the IPC's job would have been if Bronya had told the truth with no real evidence beyond "just trust me bro she was up to poo poo." You could make a pretty decent argument that Cocolia's leadership was what introduced instability to the society, given that they had held out for centuries and she was the first one to jam the wedge of "well actually undergrounders are an inferior labor caste who need to be imprisoned" into the mix. Hell, you could also make the argument that making the decision to lionize Cocolia and say "well actually it was an unfortunate but totally necessary decision to condemn half of the populace to a slow death in a shantytown next to the geomarrow mines while the rest of us sat up here in the comparative plenty" would serve to antagonize the reintegrating undergrounders just as much as saying "Cocolia was an awful piece of poo poo" would antagonize her political allies. The story's not really interested in dealing with the ramifications of that reintegration, though, because it wants to tie a neat bow on a fairly basic black and white "we came in and beat the bad guys and saved the city" storyline where everyone lives happily ever after while facing their future as a united people - which is why it feels weird for the villain to be lionized for the sake of nuanced realpolitik. Kanos fucked around with this message at 15:07 on Oct 24, 2023 |
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At least Serval went "you know what Cocolia sucked" at the end of her quest
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Kanos posted:You could make a pretty decent argument that Cocolia's leadership was what introduced instability to the society, given that they had held out for centuries and she was the first one to jam the wedge of "well actually undergrounders are an inferior labor caste who need to be imprisoned" into the mix. Hell, you could also make the argument that making the decision to lionize Cocolia and say "well actually it was an unfortunate but totally necessary decision to condemn half of the populace to a slow death in a shantytown next to the geomarrow mines while the rest of sat up here in the comparative plenty" would serve to antagonize the reintegrating undergrounders just as much as saying "Cocolia was an awful piece of poo poo" would antagonize her political allies. The problem is that Cocolia inherited an already slowly dying world and thought the Stellaron was the only way to save Belobog, and the literal will of all the guardians who come before her doesn't blame her. Plus in the end she does in fact, sacrifice herself to contain the Stellaron's final gambit (that's what the sphere around her when she explodes is, she knows the Stellaron is about to explode to take out Bronya and is finally herself enough again to contain it with her dying act). It's not like the topside was actually experiencing plenty, they were dying and losing ground and suffering too, Cocolia was sending her own men out to die (Gepard's went to her about it and she told him it was necessary) and "evolve" into what she believed the next step for Belobog was. The big difference is that we have the entirety of the Underground Leadership on our side, and Cocolia is dead and they've been told that the underground is no longer sealed. They had more direct issues with Svarog, since he was enforcing the decision for them to be kept underground a lot harsher than the Silvermane Guard were. (Because he calculated everyone on the surface was going to die, and the underground was the best place to protect the remaining population).
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While Belobog as a whole was slowly dying, the top side is presented as a fairly cosmopolitan place, with actual homes and stuff like rock concerts and theaters and literature and other various luxuries, while the undergrounders literally live in lean-to tents in mines and junkyards.
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Valleyant posted:The most you got was to say no she sucked at the end of the museum questline and then bronya censors most of it anyways It’s still funny to me that Bronya was like “no one must ever know the truth” while talking to you about this in the lobby of the museum.
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Lord_Magmar posted:Plus in the end she does in fact, sacrifice herself to contain the Stellaron's final gambit (that's what the sphere around her when she explodes is, she knows the Stellaron is about to explode to take out Bronya and is finally herself enough again to contain it with her dying act). Where do we learn that fact? I had no idea.
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The Fragmentum is full of ghosts and memories so I really wonder how long Bronya could keep a secret like that. It's only a matter of time before someone has the box pushing skills to figure it out. Though I suppose with Topaz backing her it's a lot easier now.
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Probably pushing it after this generation is safely dead and buried and it becomes a historical fact. You know, like Cyrille the Fool
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If I lose the 75/25 on this weapon banner, am I guaranteed to get the banner light cone on the next banner? Does it carry over?
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