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Got Greta's Octopuses today and am now busy indoctrinating them with proper literature. The blue one is Willi and the pink one is Marlene. Both hate fascists and war criminals.  Willi looks a little ruffled, but that's cause he's currently reading about the cruelty of the US sanctions in Von Sponeck's book.
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Sancho Banana posted:Brick said this in May of last year, but still - turns out that al-saqr's description of middle eastern armies being absolutely incompetent at anything other than terrorizing helpless civilians also applies to the idf gradenko_2000 posted:reminder that Stockholm Syndrome was just a thing completely made up by some dude who didn't want to believe a hostage's account that her captors treated her humanely, so that's always what Stockholm Syndrome was and is used for. the hostage in question was mostly pissed at the swedish government in general and the cops in particular because they literally told her that they didn't give a poo poo whether she lived or died, and the dude who coined the term was working for the cops and made the whole thing up as a whitewash for police callousness
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Mantis42 posted:it's ok, ive gotten word that the orphans have safely been relocated to Kashmir mashallah
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Death By The Blues posted:Not sure how much you can trust the Middle East Institute but it goes into what I have heard from some Iranians quote:Founded in 1946, the Middle East Institute is the oldest Washington-based institution dedicated solely to the study of the Middle East. It is a non-partisan think tank providing expert policy analysis, educational and professional development services, and a hub for engaging with the region's arts and culture. lol anyway i found this (uk based) company registered by a guy who's based out of London - Riyadh and went to school in california: https://www.iranintl.com/en/202310220074 quote:It has only signed two investment agreements with Iran during 2013-2023, of which one of them was canceled in 2018, when the United States left the JCPOA nuclear agreement with Iran. sounds like the author doesn't like that china abided by US sanctions and/or that KSA got more investment crepeface has issued a correction as of 14:27 on Oct 24, 2023 |
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:2023 american hegemony in loving shambles lol About loving time.
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also im p sure that iran would kick the poo poo out of the us in a conventional war at this point, inshallah
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Cerebral Bore posted:also im p sure that iran would kick the poo poo out of the us in a conventional war at this point, inshallah good
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it's a little early to be putting patties on the grill
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Cerebral Bore posted:also im p sure that iran would kick the poo poo out of the us in a conventional war at this point, inshallah there was a simulation of a war with Iran in like 2000 and the results were that the US got completely owned until they kept tweaking the rules of the simulation to make the US win
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Quite a bit of Synder in fact... Also, the Russians are building 2 more reactors in Iran and just shipped them a bunch of jet trainers. Ardennes has issued a correction as of 14:34 on Oct 24, 2023 |
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spacemang_spliff posted:there was a simulation of a war with Iran in like 2000 and the results were that the US got completely owned until they kept tweaking the rules of the simulation to make the US win Kobayashi Maru.
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also it's hard to overstate how loving dumb israel has been wrt eagerly sprinting to the brink of kicking off a regional war just as its sugar daddy has pissed away all their money, but i guess fascist bloodlust trumps all rational considerations
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gradenko_2000 posted:reminder that Stockholm Syndrome was just a thing completely made up by some dude who didn't want to believe a hostage's account that her captors treated her humanely, so that's always what Stockholm Syndrome was and is used for. Very specifically, the original case was a bank robbert turned multi day hostage situation in which the hostage taker treated the hostages well and the police, according to the hostages, acted incompetently and without regard for their safety. Can't imagine that applying at all in the current situation.
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spacemang_spliff posted:there was a simulation of a war with Iran in like 2000 and the results were that the US got completely owned until they kept tweaking the rules of the simulation to make the US win Was this the one where the Iranian team commander had all his transmissions done by motorbikes (so they couldn't be intercepted) but they also moved at 2000 mph? I think it's Millennium Challenge? Where the Iranian Team guy got to write a lot of poo poo ragging on it.
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Cerebral Bore posted:also im p sure that iran would kick the poo poo out of the us in a conventional war at this point, inshallah one (1) antiship missile with a good size payload getting past point defenses and sinking or even badly crippling one (1) carrier would be such a morale blow the US would lose their mind. given the how long Iran has had to game it out and how bellicose the US has been toward them they know this and have surely been working on the capacity to thwart, overwhelm and do just that
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Deadly Ham Sandwich posted:I'm surprised there isn't a IDF fund thread on the forums. There is on my facebook!
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Chucat posted:Was this the one where the Iranian team commander had all his transmissions done by motorbikes (so they couldn't be intercepted) but they also moved at 2000 mph? yeah the guy cheated because the simulation was rigged. fair's fair
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Cerebral Bore posted:also it's hard to overstate how loving dumb israel has been wrt eagerly sprinting to the brink of kicking off a regional war just as its sugar daddy has pissed away all their money, but i guess fascist bloodlust trumps all rational considerations That's exactly what it is, Israel is entirely reacting with fascist bloodlust. Within like a day they were bombing Hezbollah and Syria for no discernable reason. They've now resorted to bombing -yes, bombing - the West Bank, which has no Hamas presence. Israel is utterly hysterical and reacting like a feral monster. The phrase in that thread I posted yesterday is apt: strategic paralysis. The US is in a similar position where they have no idea how to handle the situation. VoicesCanBe has issued a correction as of 14:43 on Oct 24, 2023 |
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Chucat posted:Was this the one where the Iranian team commander had all his transmissions done by motorbikes (so they couldn't be intercepted) but they also moved at 2000 mph? Iranian motorcycle technology is very advanced but yeah it's the millennium challenge
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Al-Saqr posted:I mean yeah americans have alot of engineers, spies, consultants, marketers, financiers, etc. in a ton of sectors it's where alot of people live and make their money, oh and all the soldiers too. Alot of ppl with dual citizenship where it's allowed. Lebanese, Egyptian,etc I think. Also when you're old and Arab in the States you go back to live back with family while collecting social security.
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spacemang_spliff posted:there was a simulation of a war with Iran in like 2000 and the results were that the US got completely owned until they kept tweaking the rules of the simulation to make the US win iirc the guy playing iran was like “you can’t intercept my communications because i use teleporting motorcycles” lol
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spacemang_spliff posted:there was a simulation of a war with Iran in like 2000 and the results were that the US got completely owned until they kept tweaking the rules of the simulation to make the US win millenium challenge? van riper was hacking. also iirc a lot of that "just reset and refloat the ships" was so certain things could get practice even if they'd always get blown up right away in that scenario. they weren't changing the rules just because they didn't want to accept that a bunch of speed boats with ftl carrier pigeons sank their battleships. Zodium posted:iirc the guy playing iran was like “you can’t intercept my communications because i use teleporting motorcycles” lol absolute respect for van riper's metagame though
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Just saw this. This is from an Haaretz article https://twitter.com/__mike91/status/1716474436595949644 E: Haaretz article here: https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news...af-7b5cf0210000
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Well the smart thing would be to keep the battle group just on the maximum edge of possible contact so it can engage its fighters, but that said, the US Navy also sailed a destroyer right into the teeth of the Houthis, so who knows. That said, I wouldn't overhype naval portion of it, as much as a carrier going down is a big event and everything but the US knows that as well. On the other hand, I think 2k of marines and even if they are they are there for base or embassy security, it really isn't much. Also, I don't think the US or Israel really have an answer for Hezbollah in general, especially if most of Lebanon is either backing them or at least neutral. They can bomb infrastructure in Beirut but it isn't going to do much against Hezbollah itself and at a certain point even the Maronites aren't going to be charging into battle.
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Shageletic posted:Just saw this. This is from an Haaretz article looks like 99% military aged humans
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Cuttlefush posted:also Olsson wasn't a monster and it sounds like he ended up, uh, reverse stockholming? there are quotes from him about how his interactions with the hostages made him reconsider against murder/blaze of glory. also he then went on to live a normal sounded life and is retired in sweden. didnt know that Wow it's almost like crooks can be rehabilitated if the system allows for it and not every confrontation has to end in a hail of bullets like Heat *anxiously trying to tie my post back to Palestine like Flint in a Michael Moore movie*  Use of deadly force should be restrained with regards to Gaza as well!
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HallelujahLee posted:invading a very mountainous country that has an actual military seems like a bad idea for burgerland lets ask the taliban about all the us could do to iran with conventional weapons would be to sit outside anti-ship missile range in the eastern mediterranean or the arabian sea and shoot cruise missiles for a day or two and then have to go back to port for more missiles because the navy phased out logistics in the 90s
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hadji murad posted:Timothy Snyder? Road to Unfreedom can be an interesting read, if you are mentally prepared and take everything with not just a grain, but a giant sack, of salt. But Bloodlands and On Tyranny are good books, so I can't bring myself to wholly condemn the man, despite his later works.
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Chucat posted:Was this the one where the Iranian team commander had all his transmissions done by motorbikes (so they couldn't be intercepted) but they also moved at 2000 mph? Zodium posted:iirc the guy playing iran was like “you can’t intercept my communications because i use teleporting motorcycles” lol again all the poo poo about Van Riper in the Millennium Challenge was about how he was cheating as an attempt to invalidate the result that he obtained, without making mention that the "blue" side he was fighting was also fighting with planes and ships and missiles that didn't exist and couldn't possibly exist either, like laser cannons and railguns and an F-35 that could fly
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Hatebag posted:about all the us could do to iran with conventional weapons would be to sit outside anti-ship missile range in the eastern mediterranean or the arabian sea and shoot cruise missiles for a day or two and then have to go back to port for more missiles because the navy phased out logistics in the 90s yeah i just dont see them doing much iran has an actual air defense as well like beyond missiles and maybe some bombardment an actual land invasion sounds insane
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Bloodlands doesn't even include any Russian-language sources.HallelujahLee posted:yeah i just dont see them doing much iran has an actual air defense as well like beyond missiles and maybe some bombardment an actual land invasion sounds insane Yeah, maybe they would go after some nuclear facilities (many of them are underground at this point) or some drone plants or something, but the US just doesn't have anything in the region to actually hammer a country the size of Iran especially if they have to deal with its AD. Iran also has the ability to respond. Hell, I don't think Hezbollah has ever warmed up yet. That said, just because something doesn't make any sense, doesn't mean someone isn't going to try it. Ardennes has issued a correction as of 14:54 on Oct 24, 2023 |
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Cerebral Bore posted:also im p sure that iran would kick the poo poo out of the us in a conventional war at this point, inshallah In a defensive war where the US has to enter and invade Iran, absolutely. And that's the only context where a war with Iran would take place. Iran would no doubt suffer a ton of casualties and a lot of damage, but so would the US. And critically, the US public's tolerance for American troop casualties is basically nonexistent.
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