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Codependent Poster posted:I think he's chilled out in recent years but yeah he used to be a diva I was trying to look up how long he’s been clean and found out he’s also bipolar, which I’m sure exacerbated things during his prime. He’s also a Trump supporter and a conspiracy nut, so uhhh maybe strike my previous post 
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That’s a really loose definition of “all time greats”
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I was trying to look up how long he’s been clean and found out he’s also bipolar, which I’m sure exacerbated things during his prime. welp
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Oct 25, 2023 07:02
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ruddiger posted:That’s a really loose definition of “all time greats” There are about five different versions of the Mount Rushmore of action movies depending on your preferences, but if you want one for 80's/90's Hollywood action movies, he is absolutely in the discussion.
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Oct 25, 2023 07:02
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then there's the ear wax museum if you like steven seagal
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Grendels Dad posted:There are about five different versions of the Mount Rushmore of action movies depending on your preferences, but if you want one for 80's/90's Hollywood action movies, he is absolutely in the discussion. '80s / '90s Hollywood action star Mount Rushmore basically begins and ends with Schwarzenegger, Stallone, Cruise, Bruce Willis and Jackie Chan.
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In terms of Arnold and Sly 80’s/90’s movies, my favorite Arnold movie of that era is The Running Man, and my favorite Stallone movie of that era is Demolition Man. I shall not be taking further questions at this time. Thank you.
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Idk those are pretty great flicks. Might be different if you said like idk the 6th day and judge dredd
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1995 Dredd certainly isn’t the worst. The set design and costuming is really great. But a PG-13 Judge Dredd movie was doomed from the start. Though ‘95 Dredd has some wonderful quotes/lines. Karl Urban’s Dredd is the definitive Dredd. The Sixth Day is hilarious. The first time I ever saw it, I was on the old Route 66 driving to Arizona from Michigan (was in the process of moving to metro Phoenix), and there was a huge dust storm/thunderstorm rolling into the small town I stopped to get gas in, and some random family of like 8 people who owned the gas station invited me to wait it out at their Texas Chainsaw Massacre-lookin’ house down the street. It was a coin flip as to whether or not they were going to kill me. But instead they fed me dinner and I watched The Sixth Day with their high school age kids on the TV in the living room. I think it was on TBS, so it was edited, but holy crap was it ever bad.
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Timby posted:'80s / '90s Hollywood action star Mount Rushmore basically begins and ends with Schwarzenegger, Stallone, Cruise, Bruce Willis and Jackie Chan. 00s-Present Cruise has way more of an argument for Action Rushmore than 80s/90s Cruise, that spot could easily go to Lundgren or Van Damme.
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Oct 25, 2023 07:30
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Having Schneider as the "comic" relief in 95 Dredd certainly didn't help that film either. Who could listen to the guy for even a second and think "yes, this is a person I want in my film".
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Bloodsport, Universal Soldier, Hard Target and Timecop were bangers. 80’s and 90’s Van Damme was terrific. And who could forget Sudden Death, in which he stops terrorism by playing goal in an NHL game? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swEgflM5Ol4
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Gonz posted:Bloodsport, Universal Soldier, Hard Target and Timecop were bangers. 80’s and 90’s Van Damme was terrific. Sudden Death is indeed great. And speaking of Rob Schneider, so is Knock Off. Really fun setpieces, and Schneider is actually somewhat tolerable. Or at least, there’s enough going on in the movie that he just becomes background noise that can’t really detract from everything else.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:00s-Present Cruise has way more of an argument for Action Rushmore than 80s/90s Cruise, that spot could easily go to Lundgren or Van Damme. Yeah, Cruise didn’t really become Action God until after M:I 2 came out in 2000. The last 23 years for Tom Cruise has cemented him as one of the best action stars of the era, if not the best of said era. He’s also one of the last true Movie Stars™ left, insofar as his name can drive ticket sales.
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Statham just sold a lot of tickets to a shark movie. There’s a few stars left, Cruise is just the brightest. Dwayne Johnson, Theron, and Keanu are still around.
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Gonz posted:Yeah, Cruise didn’t really become Action God until after M:I 2 came out in 2000. The last 23 years for Tom Cruise has cemented him as one of the best action stars of the era, if not the best of said era. He’s also one of the last true Movie Stars™ left, insofar as his name can drive ticket sales. He certainly did alot of running even in the 80's and 90's but yeah, I remember him more as starring in thrillers and dramas.
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With regards to Theron, Atomic Blonde remains one of the best action movies of the last 20 years, IMO. The unbroken shot fight scene in the apartment building was/is supremely impressive. Edit: This. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrPDTalA1Lc Gonz fucked around with this message at 11:30 on Oct 25, 2023 |
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Grendels Dad posted:He certainly did alot of running even in the 80's and 90's but yeah, I remember him more as starring in thrillers and dramas. Yep; inbetween Top Gun and Mission Impossible (1986-1996), he did the following: The Color of Money Cocktail Born on the Fourth of July Rainman Far and Away A Few Good Men The Firm Interview With The Vampire And then between Mission Impossible (1996; which had great action in it, but was more of a mystery/thriller than an action movie) and Mission Impossible 2 (2000), he did: Jerry Maguire Without Limits Eyes Wide Shut Magnolia Then post 2000, especially after Minority Report in 2002, his action catalog really starts picking up steam.
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Gonz posted:Yep; inbetween Top Gun and Mission Impossible (1986-1996), he did the following: You missed Days of Thunder, AKA "Top Gun, but NASCAR."
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Timby posted:You missed Days of Thunder, AKA "Top Gun, but NASCAR." Ah poo poo you’re right!
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Gonz posted:Yep; inbetween Top Gun and Mission Impossible (1986-1996), he did the following: You forgot Days of Thunder! Edit: Oh goddamnit I was beaten while trying to look up quotes from the movie
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Kloaked00 posted:You forgot Days of Thunder! Timby stole your thunder.
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I’ve just started last man on earth and it’s really loving annoying. Not sure i can continue to be honest
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Mission Impossible is not an action movie at all. IIRC there’s a handful of gunshots and one single explosion. It’s a thriller through and through.
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Judge Dredd 1995 was sadly rated R. It just sucked and was like a kids movie for some reason
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I stand corrected! I could’ve sworn it was PG-13. But looking back, yeah, the violence was definitely R-rated. Yet the most gruesome stuff was just off-screen (i.e. the ABC robot ripping Jurgen Prochnow apart).
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Gonz posted:I stand corrected! I could’ve sworn it was PG-13. Same. I think it just had the look and feel of a PG-13 thing.
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well why not posted:Mission Impossible is not an action movie at all. IIRC there’s a handful of gunshots and one single explosion. It’s a thriller through and through.
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I think Collateral is the clearest demarcator of Action Cruise. Minority Report does have a fair amount of action scenes but Collateral I think is the first one where there's a lot of emphasis built up around Cruise doing stunts in the most realistic fashion.
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"Yo homie, is that my briefcase?" Such a top-notch film moment.
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Rewatched The Firm for the first time in decades last night and had forgotten that Cruise gets to do his full speed action run in that one. So The Firm is definitely an action movie.
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ynohtna posted:"Yo homie, is that my briefcase?" lol back when I would pagesnype https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3940156&perpage=40&noseen=1&pagenumber=59#post510094824
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Lawyers aren't allowed to be action stars, It's against the law! 
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dr_rat posted:Lawyers aren't allowed to be action stars, It's against the law! Isn't Judge Dredd technically a lawyer, too?
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Judge Dredd's treatment of Rico and Joe's relationship was extremely bizarre because those were just fundamental facts of the characters in the comics. Like the entire point of Judge Rico's downfall is that Dredd is such a consummate judge that he would even judge his own brother and the clone baby thing was just a basic fact that everybody knew. Which is weird because it was clear that somebody on the production side clearly cared about the comic since it has a perfect recreation of Mean Machine, a character that could easily have been half assed.
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muscles like this! posted:Which is weird because it was clear that somebody on the production side clearly cared about the comic since it has a perfect recreation of Mean Machine, a character that could easily have been half assed. Also Hammerstein from ABC Warriors designed by Chris Cunningham of Aphex Twin videos fame
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Timby posted:Well, he was a holy terror during the shoot of Street Fighter, always showing up to the set late, either hung over from partying all night long or loving Kylie Minogue all night long (or sometimes both). There was a lot of cocaine on that set. Hard not to be the most arrogant man in the world at this point. It keeps coming up that Jada Pinkett and Tupac were close friends and people find it obnoxious, but she was one of the best actresses period at this point, very young, and in love with Tupac. I really can't blame her for bringing that up all the time.
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fatherboxx posted:Also Hammerstein from ABC Warriors designed by Chris Cunningham of Aphex Twin videos fame CC has been involved in a few good SFX properties, I remember seeing him in a behind the scenes video from Alien 3 working on the sculpts & puppetry bits of the Alien.
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Gonz posted:1995 Dredd certainly isn’t the worst. The set design and costuming is really great. But a PG-13 Judge Dredd movie was doomed from the start. Though ‘95 Dredd has some wonderful quotes/lines. Judge Dredd could have easily been great with a PG-13 rating. The problems were a script with a toooooon of exposition that drags the whole movie down, and then Rob loving Schneider as a black hole of comedy.
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Van Damme had a way better average than Stallone or Willis. i recently did a Van Dammeathon and went through almost 30 movies, it was great. i tried to do a Stalloneathon after and gave up after like 5, it was like eating a big bowl of sand.
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