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coelomate posted:uh oh the World Eaters box has burrowed into my mind. My search history is now full of "Angron return probability" and "why are eightbound good" and poo poo. It's looking really enticing for me too, hard to talk myself out of grabbing it
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Spanish Manlove posted:
Is that an 8 dreadnought Space Wolves army? Does that play well?
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coelomate posted:uh oh the World Eaters box has burrowed into my mind. My search history is now full of "Angron return probability" and "why are eightbound good" and poo poo. The Butcher's Nails dig deep.
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Athas posted:Is that an 8 dreadnought Space Wolves army? Does that play well? Yes and I haven't had the time to try it out, it's been a busy few weeks for me
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Oct 24, 2023 19:23
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My wife is building a Harlequin army, and I am moderately envious of her creativity. 
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So I am looking at this thread because I have a serious case of  Took a look at the guard combat patrol box, which at the start seems reasonably priced. And then I made the mistake of building out a 1000 point list, which looks a lot less reasonably priced at like $500 or something. And just using the combat patrol box building it out to something like quote:CHARACTER But subjecting myself, and everyone else that I would play with to that many miniatures seems insane. Why not just make a more tanky army? quote:BATTLELINE Of course I'm being stupid here by insisting on three tanks, but hey I'm trying to justify my fancy names HQ here or something. Anyway, I just have to get this all out of my head. This poo poo is too expensive, too much work, I'll probably never go through with it. Because looking over the rules it seems like everything got compressed to a model is just a model. A tank can be substituted for any other big boy model with big stats and there isn't anything all that tanky about it. And hell maybe I'd prefer to just paint a bunch of chaos marine in bright red World Eaters color scheme and just play them like a regular chaos legion instead.
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Oct 24, 2023 22:09
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Axetrain posted:The Blood Angels specific detachment rules are somewhat underwhelming so most lists that want to be competitive just use the general purpose space marine gladius detachment rules atm. I personally speculate that this is going to stay this way until the 10th edition update gives us a new Blood Angel codex and updated units. That being said they are still fun to play and the new assault intercessors with jump packs + smash captain are pretty great and very on brand for Blood Angels. Sanguinary Guard are overcosted but old school Death Company are fearsome (not the death company intercessors) and they still get access to all of the good Space Marine units. This is quite helpful, thank you very much!
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Lostconfused posted:But subjecting myself, and everyone else that I would play with to that many miniatures seems insane. More infantry.
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Lostconfused posted:So I am looking at this thread because I have a serious case of The two solutions I worked through were 1) Play with friends/people who are chill and will let you proxy much, much cheaper things (as a stupidly poor kid growing up I used cut up Styrofoam blocks and cheap rear end paints to make an Ork army) or 2) Find a friend with a resin printer. I then eventually became that friend with the printer but whatever.
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Lostconfused posted:So I am looking at this thread because I have a serious case of Oh hey, you're me. I bought a combat patrol and then decided to build it to 1000pts. My solution was to go with a fluffy mechanized guard. It certainly lacks competitive edge, but is going to be fun. I'm only using the infantry that came in the combat patrol, so that keeps painting reasonable. I've gotten very fast at assembling the chimera. I'd recommend you consider taking a Rogal Dorn. They are very good, and cost a lot of points so you're getting great value for your money there by having to fill out the army a bit less. It sounds like you are coming to this edition from 3rd edition, when we had facings and those super exciting glance/pen charts. That was my experience, but playing the game tanks feel like tanks. On a technical level a lasgun could kill a Land Raider now, which seems wrong, but it would take so much rolling as to not practically happen. A few hits from a lascannon are going to be deadly, but you won't get those lucky turn one front kills anymore. Honestly, I miss the fun wacky nature of the old system, but tanks are a much more reliable investment of points for the guard now. I was skeptical, but they feel right. I think the only thing to watch out for is building an army that doesn't excite you, if you go with what excites you the painting and rest will work itself out imo. I don't even think that one list is that many models for guard, I've seen way crazier lists. edit: oh I thought you already had a combat patrol. Virtual Russian fucked around with this message at 23:40 on Oct 24, 2023 |
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Super Waffle posted:Thinking about adding a dreadblade Moirax to my CSM list. 10 points cheaper than a Forgefiend, but no Dark Pacts. I have yet to actually play a game of 10th so this is all theorycrafting, but does this make sense? Dark pact is way better than ten points. Forgefiends are really, really good
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Ghislaine of YOSPOS posted:Dark pact is way better than ten points. Forgefiends are really, really good But is it better than a big stompy robit with a conversion beamer?
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If you're going Guard, get the Cadia Stands box instead of the Combat Patrol. Same minis and it's cheaper since it's last edition and people are dumping it. I might get a second one myself, actually.
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Super Waffle posted:But is it better than a big stompy robit with a conversion beamer? Conversion beamers are the best of the retro weapons imho
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Ghislaine of YOSPOS posted:Dark pact is way better than ten points. Forgefiends are really, really good I noticed that World Eaters have Forgefiends for 170 points instead of 180, and then I realized trading dark pacts for a 10 point discount and WE charge-and-close-combat stuff is... probably a bad trade!
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Roller Coast Guard posted:Depending on whether you're playing Custodes or Stealer Cult that box could differ wildly in size. Unfortunately I have: Necron Sisters Grey Knights Votann Ultramarines +a few smaller random amount of things    Basically to hold all of this in one box, somehow. I'm thinking my necrons I'll have to do some multi tier storage. I have more I haven't assembled so it'd need more room than this
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Improbable Lobster posted:Conversion beamers are the best of the retro weapons imho Moirax is also 2 inches faster and an OC of 8 vs 3. Invuln save is only against ranged and a worse leadership score, however. Run with a claw w/rad cleanser for infantry and conversion beamer or graviton pulsar to take out tough stuff and vehicles, and this guy could run up the field, grab an objective and make it a fort. Also,
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I just moved so I haven't had much time to paint but now that I'm settled in it's back to it. Here's my Hive Tyrant.   I think I might do the Deathleaper in a different scheme than the rest of my army and try something darker and stealthier looking.
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Lostconfused posted:So I am looking at this thread because I have a serious case of Check out the new holiday box FYI - looks to be around a 30 percent discount for two dorns, two infantry squads, and a command squad.
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Virtual Russian posted:It sounds like you are coming to this edition from 3rd edition, when we had facings and those super exciting glance/pen charts. Tangy Zizzle posted:Check out the new holiday box FYI - looks to be around a 30 percent discount for two dorns, two infantry squads, and a command squad. I thought people were going to talk me out of it, but you're all enablers here. Anyway, I haven't even decided on a color scheme yet, and I need to clear up a work area for painting.
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 Just a WIP, haven't painted an ultramarine in forever, this guy looked cool and unfortunately is too tall for the boxes I put him in
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GreenBuckanneer posted:
Looks great so far!
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Lostconfused posted:Anyway, I just have to get this all out of my head. This poo poo is too expensive, too much work, I'll probably never go through with it. The best way to jump on board without having to sell organs is either the aforementioned 3d print route, or to grab someone else's terribly painted second hand army off eBay along with a bottle of whatever plastic friendly paint stripper is available in your part of the world.
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Roller Coast Guard posted:The best way to jump on board without having to sell organs is either the aforementioned 3d print route, or to grab someone else's terribly painted second hand army off eBay along with a bottle of whatever plastic friendly paint stripper is available in your part of the world. tbh I remember ebay deals being easier to score a decade ago. Maybe the surge inpopularity combined with so much being out of stock at GW means there are more bidders? But even the janky old collections often go for a hefty multiple of the current MSRP.
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Athas posted:My wife is building a Harlequin army, and I am moderately envious of her creativity. These are rad as hell. I love the basing.
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What’s a pin vice, and which one should I get for drilling minis? I do love putting paperclips into my guys to make sure they don’t fall apart but it hurts my hands and it sounds like a pin vice might help. Also any recommends for a mini friendly electric drill? Terrified to try this one since I’ll probably drill into my hand with it.
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a fatguy baldspot posted:What’s a pin vice, and which one should I get for drilling minis? A Pin Vice is pretty much a regular screwdriver, but using drill bits instead. So it let's you go slow and careful while drilling holes into soft materials. Pretty much any brand will work, but you want appropriately tiny drill bits to go with.
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a fatguy baldspot posted:What’s a pin vice, and which one should I get for drilling minis? I do love putting paperclips into my guys to make sure they don’t fall apart but it hurts my hands and it sounds like a pin vice might help. Also any recommends for a mini friendly electric drill? Terrified to try this one since I’ll probably drill into my hand with it. You can just search amazon for "pin vise" and you'll find them, or every miniature/gaming store in existence probably has a few hanging on their racks for like $20. Basically tiny little hand drills with a rotating cap on the end that sticks on your palm to allow you to press it in. Unless you have much, much greater control than I do I would very seriously NOT recommend a powered drill, even a mini one. They're just not built for this scale and will probably end up blowing holes through your minis or tearing up the sides as they skip along. bird food bathtub fucked around with this message at 14:38 on Oct 25, 2023 |
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bird food bathtub posted:You can just search amazon for "pin vise" and you'll find them, or every miniature/gaming store in existence probably has a few hanging on their racks for like $20. Basically tiny little hand drills with a rotating cap on the end that sticks on your palm to allow you to press it in. Unless you have much, much greater control than I do I would very seriously NOT recommend a powered drill, even a mini one. They're just not built for this scale and will probably end up blowing holes through your minis or tearing up the sides as they skip along. "Wowstick" is pretty good unless i guess you shake a lot
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jadebullet posted:These are rad as hell. I love the basing. the patterns on the vehicles make me remember I suck at painting. They rock
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Careful with the pin vices on Amazon; a lot of the cheap ones come with bits that are flat on the tip and are basically useless for actually *drilling.* I got one a while back that has a nice handle but ended up having to buy a full new set of bits from Army Painter.
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The Army Painter pin vice is pretty solid. I still use an old Citadel one that has pretty comfortable grip instead of just being a chunk of metal. It does squeak a lot though.
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jadebullet posted:These are rad as hell. I love the basing. The bases are just Valhallan Blizzard followed by a liberal application of glitter glue and some transparent crystals from Green Stuff World. I spend way more time on my forest-themed grimdark bases for my Custodes (complete with plastic skulls and cork rocks), but they end up looking much worse than her Harlequins. She also managed to convert a The Masque model (normally a Slaanesh daemon) to a Solitaire, while I'm proud when I can figure out how to make my dudes point their weapons forwards.
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I did end up ordering a combat patrol box yesterday because it looked like a local shop was selling it at 20% less than MSRP.
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EdsTeioh posted:Careful with the pin vices on Amazon; a lot of the cheap ones come with bits that are flat on the tip and are basically useless for actually *drilling.* I got one a while back that has a nice handle but ended up having to buy a full new set of bits from Army Painter. To add, many bits on aliexpress are like this (flat) as well. To get around this flaw, use a knife tip to make a central point so you can keep your bit steady. I literally just stick the tip of the blade in and spin it a little bit, it works like a charm. The pin vice itself that I got off Aliexpress however for $4 each are amazing though. coelomate posted:tbh I remember ebay deals being easier to score a decade ago. Maybe the surge inpopularity combined with so much being out of stock at GW means there are more bidders? But even the janky old collections often go for a hefty multiple of the current MSRP. More like ebay "deals" The prices are terrible usually.
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coelomate posted:tbh I remember ebay deals being easier to score a decade ago. Maybe the surge inpopularity combined with so much being out of stock at GW means there are more bidders? But even the janky old collections often go for a hefty multiple of the current MSRP. Yeah, I've notived a lot of secondhand hams are snatched up either much quicker than they used to be or for more money
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Lostconfused posted:Yeah, last time I played was when my mother drove me down to scarborough town center (or wherever that games workshop store was) on sunday. None of the super weird rules made sense back then, i just wanted to play with all the cool looking miniature soldiers and tanks. Do you still live / work in the Toronto area? If so, we have a group that hangs out twice a month to roll dice, it's extremely welcoming to newbies as well.
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Tangy Zizzle posted:Do you still live / work in the Toronto area? If so, we have a group that hangs out twice a month to roll dice, it's extremely welcoming to newbies as well. I'm in the GTA, Richmond Hill.
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The Demilich posted:To add, many bits on aliexpress are like this (flat) as well. To get around this flaw, use a knife tip to make a central point so you can keep your bit steady. I literally just stick the tip of the blade in and spin it a little bit, it works like a charm. Oh yeah, totally; my cheap pinvice has an amazing handle but those bits loving suck. Even doing the knife thing is hard if you're trying to be super precise; I still can't line up bolter barrels correctly doing that.
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Lostconfused posted:I'm in the GTA, Richmond Hill. Ah, I mean you're more than welcome, but we meet at like the Lakeshore and DVP twice a month.
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