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HawkHill posted:Blankolirio has a good video on this, If you're a professional pilot suffering from depression, you can't seek professional help, because going on antidepressants -- even if they're 100% effective from day 1 -- is an instant grounding for a minimum of 6 months. And if the drug that works for you is not one of the only four that are FAA approved, sorry, no medical certificate for you ever again. In anonymous surveys, many, many pilots report depression, anxiety, and other mental health issues that they choose to ignore or self-medicate with alcohol (the one drug the FAA does allow you to take as much as you want, just not within 8 hours of flying!) rather than seek help and risk ending their career. Hot take: if this mushroom pilot is telling the truth, this incident is the fault of the FAA and their medieval attitude to mental health.
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Sagebrush posted:If you're a professional pilot suffering from depression, you can't seek professional help, because going on antidepressants -- even if they're 100% effective from day 1 -- is an instant grounding for a minimum of 6 months. And if the drug that works for you is not one of the only four that are FAA approved, sorry, no medical certificate for you ever again. ............ jesus christ
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Sagebrush posted:If you're a professional pilot suffering from depression, you can't seek professional help, because going on antidepressants -- even if they're 100% effective from day 1 -- is an instant grounding for a minimum of 6 months. And if the drug that works for you is not one of the only four that are FAA approved, sorry, no medical certificate for you ever again. On the ATC side there's a not small amount of people that are taking antidepressants and just not reporting it. But we've hit a point where people are just burnt out and I've seen more people reporting it over the last year than I had the entire rest of my career. Which pulls them for the minimum 6 months and makes things worse for everyone else until the next person burns out and it keeps going. Things are not in a great place in that regard. The amount of times I've had to tell people that their health takes priority over the job is somewhat shocking, but even I haven't followed that advice for chunks of my career.
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hopefully this becomes one of the things that flows between aviation and healthcare (like CRM or root-cause analysis) because for a long, LONG time any healthcare worker with a substance abuse problem who asked for help immediately lost everything. licensing & certifications revoked, blacklisted with the state, health insurance cut off, hung out to dry. It took a lot of people agitating hard with solid data on their side to convince the industry that this was causing harm rather than preventing it. It isn't 1:1 with substance abuse and depression but the gist is the same. Making people choose between help they might need and a career they definitely need is not evidence-based practice.
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I know, Facebook/clickbait style site, but I couldn't help but share this. Pretty hard to find a more joyful video of someone flying. https://fb.watch/nVd6PlGr54/
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Cactus Ghost posted:just what the recent movement to decriminalize psychadelics needed Especially since it happened in Oregon, which recently voted in a semi controversial referendum for professional psilocybin therapy centers. It hasn't actually been set up yet, I don't think a single treatment has occurred yet under the new system, but that won't stop people from drawing a connection between the two.
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BonoMan posted:............ jesus christ Hi, I have a rabbit hole I’d like to show you. fknlo posted:On the ATC side there's a not small amount of people that are taking antidepressants and just not reporting it. But we've hit a point where people are just burnt out and I've seen more people reporting it over the last year than I had the entire rest of my career. Which pulls them for the minimum 6 months and makes things worse for everyone else until the next person burns out and it keeps going. Things are not in a great place in that regard. At convention this year past, the thing that got the giant thunderous standing approval wasn’t setting a goal for our bargaining council to get us more money or more leave or longer hours (though things like that did pass,) it was for a non-binding statement from the membership to the bargaining council that job #1 when we renegotiate is to improve the availability of mental health services, and to dramatically curtail the FAA’s ability to punitively impact the living we make if we choose to seek this services. It was a beautiful moment. 
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Mr. Funny Pants posted:I know, Facebook/clickbait style site, but I couldn't help but share this. Pretty hard to find a more joyful video of someone flying. This is lovely and brightens my day every time I see it. The laughing! the joyful "encore! Encore!" is just the best.
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BonoMan posted:............ jesus christ A former chief medical examiner for the FAA (in the 80s-90s iirc) reportedly was quoted saying something like "if I find out that a pilot goes to a shrink, I'll see that he never flies again." It's a brainless, barbaric, bigoted attitude, and thankfully that guy is not in charge anymore, but the FAA moves extraordinarily slowly. Only in the last few years have they even made the special issuance exemptions for those four antidepressants. Unfortunately, the mental health situation (not just for pilots, but for America in general imo) is a healthcare emergency and it's way past time they got in the 21st century. Sagebrush fucked around with this message at 00:34 on Oct 26, 2023 |
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alnilam posted:Especially since it happened in Oregon, which recently voted in a semi controversial referendum for professional psilocybin therapy centers. It hasn't actually been set up yet, I don't think a single treatment has occurred yet under the new system, but that won't stop people from drawing a connection between the two. Just to be clear the Pilot was leaving Washington and lives in California. Oregon is where they diverted to but otherwise likely had nothing to do with his actions.
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Maksimus54 posted:Just to be clear the Pilot was leaving Washington and lives in California. Oregon is where they diverted to but otherwise likely had nothing to do with his actions. also won't stop people from drawing a connection
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Advent Horizon posted:https://mynews4.com/news/local/six-cities-announced-as-potential-future-home-of-national-championship-ari-races-after-reno-depature And miles of nothingness that Reno hasn't had in decades, a major interstate highway, and the Bonneville Salt Flats which brings a reputation.
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He is certainly violating 14 CFR parts 91.13 (Careless or reckless operation), 91.119 (Minimum safe altitudes), and 91.303 (Aerobatic flight). Possibly also 93 Subpart U (Special Flight Rules in the Vicinity of Grand Canyon National Park, AZ) and/or similar regulations restricting low-altitude flight over other national parks and wilderness areas. Sagebrush fucked around with this message at 23:54 on Oct 26, 2023 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkeJQJxHpQw http://www.swaviator.com/html/issueSO02/Arch91002.html If the multi-verse is true this guy must be dead in every one but ours
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Beastie posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkeJQJxHpQw quote:Tim always thought it was a wonderful way to enjoy these beautiful natural phenomena without leaving a single trace that he had been there. Without leaving a single trace except for all the lead particles spewing out of his plane.
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Cojawfee posted:Without leaving a single trace except for all the lead particles spewing out of his plane. And if it continues (or if he's such hot poo poo, suppose other people try it too), the inevitable crash that literally destroys the arch and leaves a wreckage That's a hell of a trace
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My wife just asked why I said out loud: No Never that Fuccck that
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GPWS: Ground Penetration With Style
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Sagebrush posted:He is certainly violating 14 CFR parts 91.13 (Careless or reckless operation), 91.119 (Minimum safe altitudes), and 91.303 (Aerobatic flight). Neither 91.119 or 91.303 applies.
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vessbot posted:GPWS: Ground Penetration With Style 
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ImplicitAssembler posted:Neither 91.119 or 91.303 applies. You wanna take that bet against the FAA?
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In this case, sure. Nothing aerobatic about it and you'll have a hard time having that defined as a structure.
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91.303: "For the purposes of this section, aerobatic flight means an intentional maneuver involving an abrupt change in an aircraft's attitude, an abnormal attitude, or abnormal acceleration, not necessary for normal flight." That's definitely an aerobatic maneuver by that definition, and you aren't allowed to do that below 1500 AGL, among other restrictions. 91.119 requires that you never operate at an altitude too low to allow an emergency engine-out landing without a hazard to people or property on the surface, so that one would depend on what was below and around him, but that's another one of those things the FAA famously leaves ambiguous so that they can define "hazard" however they like when it comes up.
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Is that actually inside the Grand Canyon? Because there's a flat "no operation within 500 feet of terrain or structures" between the North and South rims, 93.311.
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Sagebrush posted:91.303: "For the purposes of this section, aerobatic flight means an intentional maneuver involving an abrupt change in an aircraft's attitude, an abnormal attitude, or abnormal acceleration, not necessary for normal flight." Again, there’s nothing aerobatic about that maneuver. Inputs are not abrupt and there’s no abnormal attitudes
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They nailed that YouTuber who bailed on his plane rear end to wall. I feel like this guy is in a perfect grey area or knows someone
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Cojawfee posted:He's employing the "I'm not touching you" doctrine works on BATF might as well give it a shot
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Beastie posted:They nailed that YouTuber who bailed on his plane rear end to wall. I feel like this guy is in a perfect grey area or knows someone Never underestimate a Part 91 pilot’s ability to do something completely stupid on film
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Beastie posted:They nailed that YouTuber who bailed on his plane rear end to wall. I feel like this guy is in a perfect grey area or knows someone true, but he also retrieved the wreckage and disposed of it in several neighborhood dumpsters, so he was arguably practicing good stewardship too 
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and yet Jerry is 1) still alive 2) still flying 3) still posting
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Jerry can't hear you over the sound of the stall horn during his base to final turn.
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Cojawfee posted:Without leaving a single trace except for all the lead particles spewing out of his plane. of all the ways the faa might go after him this is the least likely, because it'd draw into question their official stance of "eh, it's probably fine" wrt leaded fuel
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