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Farchanter posted:I get that she has a proffer in this case, but if someone without one were to accept a plea deal and then not testify in the trials they agreed to cooperate with, what would happen to them? If they violate the terms of their probation they can get thrown into prison/jail. If the State didn't dismiss with prejudice their other claims against the defendant they can also bring them back up assuming they are not barred due to double jeopardy, which they shouldn't yet at this point for this instant case.
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Zotix posted:Powell is already telling her followers that the DA extorted the guild plea. Sure, they extorted the truth by threatening her with punishment for the crimes. I mean, how dare they!
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Oct 25, 2023 05:23
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Farchanter posted:I get that she has a proffer in this case, but if someone without one were to accept a plea deal and then not testify in the trials they agreed to cooperate with, what would happen to them? What I'm wondering is what does the prosecution do if she follows the plea deal to the letter and gives them everything they want in court, but every day after court ends she's back on the internet supporting the Big Lie.
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I think the first step is a court date with an angry judge who wants you to clarify if you are pleading guilty of your own free and fair volition or not. Then Georgia is only one of a myriad of headaches for her, as she still had the dominion lawsuit, and she could still potentially have federal charges. So continuing to gently caress around definitely puts her on a path to find out.
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Oct 25, 2023 06:05
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If I was escaping serious legal consequences for my part in a conspiracy to end American democracy, I would lie so low that the Dwarfs of Moria would be the only ones who could hope to find me.
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Ms Adequate posted:If I was escaping serious legal consequences for my part in a conspiracy to end American democracy, I would lie so low that the Dwarfs of Moria would be the only ones who could hope to find me. Personally I would of just of been an awesome enough to succeed in end American democracy, unlike those losers. :smugo: But yeah, this is one of those things, where the only people who are going to get involved in it are such broken people that dealing with all the fall out, they are obviously just going to gently caress everything up. Sensible well adjusted people who don't just constantly gently caress up just chose not to be involved in any of this. See also: Alex Jones bankruptcy trial.
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Oct 25, 2023 11:22
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Jesus III posted:Trump should flip Trump secretly flipped 4 years ago. All of that was a longterm sting operation. The last one who flips gets all the punishment.
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cant cook creole bream posted:Trump secretly flipped 4 years ago. All of that was a longterm sting operation. The last one who flips gets all the punishment. The SAG strike meant the producers for America needed to move to a reality show format again, huh?
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cant cook creole bream posted:Trump secretly flipped 4 years ago. All of that was a longterm sting operation. The last one who flips gets all the punishment. He said he would drain the swamp. He didn't say which swamp, the time or method of draining it. Have you noticed you don't hear "4th Dimensional Chess" uttered with regard to Trump anymore?
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Oct 25, 2023 15:48
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Jesus III posted:He said he would drain the swamp. He didn't say which swamp, the time or method of draining it. Nobody actually tries to defend him either. The closest you ever see is "yes he did it and it was good actually and if you don't like it you're the problem."
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Oct 25, 2023 15:52
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Nobody actually tries to defend him either. The closest you ever see is "yes he did it and it was good actually and if you don't like it you're the problem." That's literally describing defending him though
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Oct 25, 2023 15:55
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They're defending, but not really trying
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:That's literally describing defending him though When I say "defending" I mean "things that could even in theory help if you said them in a court proceeding." "I didn't do it" is a defense. "I did it but only because I relied on bad legal advice" might be a defense or might help in mitigation. "It was great actually" is . . .not a defense and it's not an excuse. It's just a . . . Plea, effectively.
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Charlz Guybon posted:This has to be witness tampering Tweeting a very long-winded version of "that dude sucks and I bet his testimony against me is all lies to save himself" isn't witness tampering. Not even if it's done by a famous person with a particularly enthusiastic and aggressive fanbase.
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Which statement of Trump's is he referring to?
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Nitrousoxide posted:Which statement of Trump's is he referring to? Follow up tweets have what he said. 
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:When I say "defending" I mean "things that could even in theory help if you said them in a court proceeding." Got it. My bad for misinterpreting
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Oct 25, 2023 17:31
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Set the precedent!! Make him spend the night in jail at the very least. We all know he'll get the judge equivalent of a "strongly worded letter" and be back doing the exact thing within minutes of leaving the court.
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Oct 25, 2023 17:32
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:Got it. My bad for misinterpreting No worries I was speaking technically and you were speaking generally
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Nitrousoxide posted:Which statement of Trump's is he referring to? The quote "because this judge is a very partisan judge with a person who's very partisan sitting alongside… perhaps even much more partisan than he is.”" specifically refers to the clerk who he has attacked before and today said that that person was rolling their eyes at him. https://twitter.com/eorden/status/1717180935647473747
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OgNar posted:The quote "because this judge is a very partisan judge with a person who's very partisan sitting alongside… perhaps even much more partisan than he is.”" specifically refers to the clerk who he has attacked before and today said that that person was rolling their eyes at him. throw another fine on the pile
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OgNar posted:The quote "because this judge is a very partisan judge with a person who's very partisan sitting alongside… perhaps even much more partisan than he is.”" specifically refers to the clerk who he has attacked before and today said that that person was rolling their eyes at him. If you can't handle a non witness rolling their eyes during cross then you don't belong in the courtroom
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Oct 25, 2023 17:48
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Farchanter posted:I get that she has a proffer in this case, but if someone without one were to accept a plea deal and then not testify in the trials they agreed to cooperate with, what would happen to them?
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:Set the precedent!! Make him spend the night in jail at the very least. At least take away his access to electronics, hell they did that when Sam Bankman-Fried was awaiting trial (and then he still used them anyways for more witness tampering and got thrown in jail).
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:If you can't handle a non witness rolling their eyes during cross then you don't belong in the courtroom Maybe so, but courtrooms aren't exactly the places where everyone inside are putting their best, most good-faith foot forward and really being reasonable and truthful about what they say and what they mean.
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Mercury_Storm posted:At least take away his access to electronics, hell they did that when Sam Bankman-Fried was awaiting trial (and then he still used them anyways for more witness tampering and got thrown in jail). Three words : personal Faraday cage.
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Oct 25, 2023 18:05
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Xiahou Dun posted:Three words : personal Faraday cage. Imagining an x-men style magneto prison that no tweet can penetrate
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Oct 25, 2023 18:34
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Judge should order him taken into custody at start of next court hearing, state considering criminal contempt charges, then let him go and say decided not to charge him after all.
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Meow Tse-tung posted:Imagining an x-men style magneto prison that no tweet can penetrate They could even call it an X-Cage!
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Meow Tse-tung posted:Imagining an x-men style magneto prison that no tweet can penetrate We need to create this heaven now.
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Oct 25, 2023 18:49
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I just want to see Trump waddling around to rallies in a phone-booth sized thing of copper like a steampunk Dalek. Is that really so much to ask.
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Meow Tse-tung posted:Imagining an x-men style magneto prison that no tweet can penetrate 
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quote:Donald Trump is taking the stand in his civil trial to answer questions from the judge under oath about his comments outside the courtroom. Can he last two minutes without perjuring himself?
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https://twitter.com/eorden/status/1717248957296849140 Energon wins
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Five grand was what it cost me and my wife to spend a couple weeks in Spain back in 2010. Ten grand is what a member of (I think) Phish offered a local band to give up their name so he could use it for a side project—they took the money and renamed themselves Ten Grand. Still less than I pay on my mortgage every year, and functionally meaningless to Trump. Maybe after he sends some death threats they’ll charge him what my knee surgery ran me. But again, in its majestic equality etc etc
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If the judge keeps doubling the fine every time, by this time next week we might be talking about some real money The real point was to put Trump on the stand just so the judge reminded Trump he could do it.
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selec posted:Five grand was what it cost me and my wife to spend a couple weeks in Spain back in 2010. Ten grand is what a member of (I think) Phish offered a local band to give up their name so he could use it for a side project—they took the money and renamed themselves Ten Grand. Still less than I pay on my mortgage every year, and functionally meaningless to Trump. Maybe after he sends some death threats they’ll charge him what my knee surgery ran me. Been mentioned before but I think Trump has FAR less COH than people think. His personal interest in this trial in particular is because it's his revenue stream yeah, but also if all his companies die all the bills are due and THAT isn't something he can handle I think. I don't know NY law but I'm assuming outstanding debt gets priority when his companies are dismantled.
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