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klen dool posted:gently caress is local democracy reporting into he chopping block as well? I have a friend who runs what program and they are supes proud of it The PJIF which funded it was 55 million over three years. Labour weren't going to continue it and National opposed it on principal. Fortunately NZ On Air picked it up for 23/24 and hopefully might continue to. I could see Peters supporting it, although NACT would happily let the market decide.
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The left owns the media like this *an ad showing gay people existing* The right owns the media like this *an ad with a huge ute DRIVE THIS UTE KILL THE PLANET*
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Oct 22, 2023 08:16
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Ghostlight posted:The media is largely owned by millionaires who want to lock up brown people idk if this is true .. I know a person who owns one of the biggest media companies in nz and that’s just not true at all maybe others are different idk
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Oct 22, 2023 08:54
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Also pick up any newspaper who are the main advertisers? Usually it is full page ads for real estate firms and car dealers. While editorial is meant to be independent of the ad sales. They will always protect the money.
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Oct 22, 2023 09:21
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Yes people are using "owned by" in the common shorthand sense of "represents the views and interests of, because of profit incentives".
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Oct 22, 2023 09:28
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echinopsis posted:idk if this is true .. I know a person who owns one of the biggest media companies in nz and that’s just not true at all How can rich people be evil when they're cool and my friends??
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Oct 22, 2023 10:11
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i feel like there's something missing in language that fucks up all discussion of systems, historical forces and so on. everybody ends up talking about individuals - themselves, people they know - e.g. a big one recently has been "do you condemn hamas" whenever someone talks about historical motivators for hamas' actions. like an individual's views do not change the systemic analysis. even if they own a media company. hell a media owner is likely to be liberal due to the kinds of people they'd be around (journalists, artists and craftspeople), even if their economic interests don't match up with that. contradiction on those terms isn't unusual. this isn't to poo poo on anybody it's just a trend i see that really derails a lot of actual analysis in discussions
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Oct 22, 2023 10:35
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Deep Glove Bruno posted:i feel like there's something missing in language that fucks up all discussion of systems, historical forces and so on. everybody ends up talking about individuals - themselves, people they know - e.g. a big one recently has been "do you condemn hamas" whenever someone talks about historical motivators for hamas' actions. like an individual's views do not change the systemic analysis. even if they own a media company. hell a media owner is likely to be liberal due to the kinds of people they'd be around (journalists, artists and craftspeople), even if their economic interests don't match up with that. contradiction on those terms isn't unusual. this isn't to poo poo on anybody it's just a trend i see that really derails a lot of actual analysis in discussions Thank you for this. I wanted to reply without sounding like I was making a personal attack and you've eloquently summed up what was going through my mind.
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Oct 22, 2023 10:42
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How often do you see socialist perspectives in NZ media.
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echinopsis posted:idk if this is true .. I know a person who owns one of the biggest media companies in nz and that’s just not true at all it's true. you didn't need to be a millionaire to buy stuff.co.nz for $1
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Deep Glove Bruno posted:i feel like there's something missing in language that fucks up all discussion of systems, historical forces and so on. everybody ends up talking about individuals - themselves, people they know - e.g. a big one recently has been "do you condemn hamas" whenever someone talks about historical motivators for hamas' actions. like an individual's views do not change the systemic analysis. even if they own a media company. hell a media owner is likely to be liberal due to the kinds of people they'd be around (journalists, artists and craftspeople), even if their economic interests don't match up with that. contradiction on those terms isn't unusual. this isn't to poo poo on anybody it's just a trend i see that really derails a lot of actual analysis in discussions It's almost like something is deliberately and systematically suppressing materialist thinking
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bike tory posted:Yeah a lot of people hear "social construct" and think it means "not real" or something. Usually the same people who think that the outcomes of our systems of social relations, like Māori men dying 15 years younger, are the result of things inherent to people themselves. If only there was a word for that, maybe someone should invent one.
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Double posting because the ACT party's candidate for Christchurch Central got arrested on firearms charges. Supposedly keeping them in his dorm at UC, where he was a RA. https://www.thepress.co.nz/a/nz-news/350096550/student-arrested-halls-after-guns-found-room-during-early-morning-raid Hardest school shooter vibes Ive ever seen on a politician 
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Oct 23, 2023 05:34
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Oct 23, 2023 06:19
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i'd make the same point about candidates, but, well, it's act. we all know how they feel about kids doing things they're too young for
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Oct 23, 2023 06:21
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Oh cool some of my students live in that hall. Glad they're not dead.
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Deep Glove Bruno posted:i feel like there's something missing in language that fucks up all discussion of systems, historical forces and so on. everybody ends up talking about individuals - themselves, people they know - e.g. a big one recently has been "do you condemn hamas" whenever someone talks about historical motivators for hamas' actions. like an individual's views do not change the systemic analysis. even if they own a media company. hell a media owner is likely to be liberal due to the kinds of people they'd be around (journalists, artists and craftspeople), even if their economic interests don't match up with that. contradiction on those terms isn't unusual. this isn't to poo poo on anybody it's just a trend i see that really derails a lot of actual analysis in discussions That's just our monkey brains in action. Anything we can't ignore we find a box for and categorise using our own experiences. Still, we're posting to an old forum full of aging edgy millennials here, our hot takes aren't going to bring about peace in the middle east, so just do your best, I'm not a cop.
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https://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/new-zealand-calls-humanitarian-pause-gaza technically better than nothing !
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Slavvy posted:How can rich people be evil when they're cool and my friends?? they’re not really a friend but a future in law I mean I’ve heard these people talk. I know what they believe. and no excuses they’re also forced into a corner because no one wants to pay for news and so the media companies are desperate and have to chase the dollar. journalism is truly hosed now and unless people are prepared to pay for proper journalism it’ll all end up as bottom feeding poo poo. we are all to blame
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Oct 25, 2023 06:13
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It's Forest and Bird's centenary this year so they're doing Bird of the Century instead of just bird of the year. The stakes are higher than ever! Voting opens Monday. https://www.birdoftheyear.org.nz/
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Oct 25, 2023 09:48
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i'll be voting exclusively for waterfowl again 👍
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exmarx posted:i'll be voting exclusively for waterfowl again 👍 Funny way of spelling Kea.
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This feels like Sophie's choice, they're all good birds. Special shout out to the Kaka though, I saw one near parliament going to town on some tree bark. Just need to teach them how much fun windshield wipers are.
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Oct 26, 2023 09:26
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Gonna vote for Piwakawaka, my little friends who always follow me around the garden chattering all the while.
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Oct 26, 2023 10:06
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Oct 26, 2023 12:32
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what non-birds will they have this time? voting gorse for bird of the year
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I'm really torn up about this... bird of the century? i must think on this. not a joke post e: were huia alive in 1923?
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https://teara.govt.nz/en/photograph/9956/laughing-owl Voting for the laughing owl, bird of my heart now and forever
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Deep Glove Bruno posted:I'm really torn up about this... bird of the century? i must think on this. not a joke post They probably just squeak in: quote:The last confirmed sighting of a huia was in 1907, although there was a credible sighting in 1924. cptn_dr posted:https://teara.govt.nz/en/photograph/9956/laughing-owl These guys look excellent because they're basically just bigger ruru, but ruru is and will always be my pick.
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Is there truly a more NZ bird than the kererū. Who gets drunk on fermenting berries in late autumn and can crash in to things as it attempts to fly?
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Varkk posted:Is there truly a more NZ bird than the kererū. Who gets drunk on fermenting berries in late autumn and can crash in to things as it attempts to fly? cptn_dr posted:https://teara.govt.nz/en/photograph/9956/laughing-owl "Its calls were loud shrieks, soft cooees, or high-pitched yelps like a young dog, and it was sometimes called the laughing jackass."
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cptn_dr posted:"Its calls were loud shrieks, soft cooees, or high-pitched yelps like a young dog, and it was sometimes called the laughing jackass." But enough about David Seymour. EDIT: Kārearea for me, they used to hunt over the winery I worked at.
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Large parrots - both mountain and forest - are incredibly cool. But so are penguins - both yellow-eyed and little blue. Oh, and fantails are cool. And tui. And you can't overlook the ruru. Or kereru. And heck, I like the swamp harrier. And the swamp pukeko! ...this is going to be difficult. Maybe I'll vote for the bat so I don't have to choose?
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Oct 26, 2023 23:21
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I vote whatever bird doesn't poo poo all over my windows and car just after I wash them.
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Oct 26, 2023 23:29
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im gonna vote for either the sparrow or the blackbird: the true birds of nz
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victorious posted:I vote whatever bird doesn't poo poo all over my windows and car just after I wash them. vote little penguin then, they'd have to be really, really dedicated to accomplish that
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victorious posted:I vote whatever bird doesn't poo poo all over my windows and car just after I wash them. All the birds team up to poo poo on your car sorry.
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Selling my vote for a werthers original, or perhaps a macintosh lolly
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Solus posted:Selling my vote for a werthers original, or perhaps a macintosh lolly 
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