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BizarroAzrael posted:Algo has been pitching this to me for a bit, I'm enjoying it. Pleasantl;y-voiced Southern US man on Libertarian kids books. I saw that video last week and it's definitely worth a watch. As a companion, check out Zoe Bee's video on PragerU's  educational videos that are now being used in classrooms in some states:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NAiPYaogCw
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Oct 26, 2023 16:30
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Zinkraptor posted:Honestly yeah, they’ve all got their own strengths and flaws such that I feel like you could make a solid argument for any of them being the best or worst. That's what makes the DS2 backlash so weird, because it's another one of those cases of a group of nerds being completely unable to accept that people enjoy a thing and they don't. There's a fine line between "I don't like [x] and here's why" and "I don't like [x] and here's why I'm correct" that a lot of nerds don't seem to understand. Famethrowa posted:"he wasnt a misogynist he was just unbelievably dense" is a pretty funny epitaph tho I'll give it that I've always thought that Innuendo Studio's characterization of GamerGate being made up of a mixture of really dumb and politically unaware gamers and consciously reactionary CHUDs in a symbiotic relationship with each other was probably the single best characterization of the movement.
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Oct 26, 2023 16:52
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it was a movement for and by morons
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Oct 26, 2023 17:15
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fun hater posted:it was a movement for and by morons
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Oct 26, 2023 17:17
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KingKalamari posted:That's what makes the DS2 backlash so weird, because it's another one of those cases of a group of nerds being completely unable to accept that people enjoy a thing and they don't. There's a fine line between "I don't like [x] and here's why" and "I don't like [x] and here's why I'm correct" that a lot of nerds don't seem to understand. 2's issues and what people get mad about are a mix of things. The lighting engine having to be cut down from the pre-release material when it first came out really upset people. It's a game that was in development hell and you can tell a lot of the middle sections were visibly stitched together from disassociated parts that didn't get polished. It was trying for a scope that it did not have the remaining dev time to deliver on properly. It was being worked on by another team while the team that developed DS1 up through the DLC had shifted to Bloodborne. So they were simultaneously trying to address the "complaints" about DS1 while repeating a lot of the same mistakes in designing bosses and enemies from the first game because all that experience was being applied elsewhere. The rushed final product meant that a lot of times they were tossing multiple "fixes" at the wall for things like balancing PVP, reworking spellcasting, adjusting weapon design, etc. without considering if they were all necessary or good. There are also a lot of things 2 did that were cool or that people were mad about that rolled into 3 and onward because it turns out the developers just wanted to move that way. Things like aggressive enemy design, groups of elites to fight, not wanting backstab fishing all the time (but it's still really easy to do anyway), Lore callbacks, etc. So whatever, it's nice to get a more fleshed out successor in a lot of ways with Elden Ring. fun hater posted:it was a movement for and by morons But have you ever considered how Steve the Incompetent SS Soldier who trips on banana peels and blows up a platoon of Panzer tanks might actually be an ally to the Allied Forces? 
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Oct 26, 2023 17:26
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I just didn't like how the scythes got nerved moveset wise.
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Oct 26, 2023 18:16
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DS2 is the only one of the trilogy that I actually completed (and wanted to)
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Oct 26, 2023 18:41
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ds2 was unplayable to me and i still havent passed the second area lol. ive played every other fromsoft game like 8000 times but that one just won't stick
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Oct 26, 2023 18:52
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If DS1 and 3 wanted to be good they should've put in the Bell Tower Covenant.
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Oct 26, 2023 19:04
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I think the worst thing with 2 was tying the dodge roll i-frames to a derived stat under another stat. It makes everything feel extra awful and awkward to start with. Plus, since that wasn't clear from the start, there were multiple years of testing before people fully understood what that stat did.
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Oct 26, 2023 19:09
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All Souls games are bad except for the ones I like, which are actually good.
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Oct 26, 2023 19:15
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fun hater posted:ds2 was unplayable to me and i still havent passed the second area lol. ive played every other fromsoft game like 8000 times but that one just won't stick I felt the same way about it at first. I preordered it (stupid), played it for a little bit, put it down, never picked it back up. Years later I tried it again and really loved it, first Souls game I ever kept playing after completing a playthrough. So if it’s been a long time you might consider trying again, though now that Elden Ring exists there are far fewer reasons to go back to DS2. Nuns with Guns posted:I think the worst thing with 2 was tying the dodge roll i-frames to a derived stat under another stat. It makes everything feel extra awful and awkward to start with. Plus, since that wasn't clear from the start, there were multiple years of testing before people fully understood what that stat did. IMO it could have worked, IF they had actually gone ahead and just explained the mechanic. It’s so pivotal that every player knows what it is and (at least roughly) how it works even if they have never heard the phrase iframe before. The choice they made, making it something you character is bad at at first that you have to put stats into, combined with having it be just as opaque as the last game, results in players just coming to the conclusion that rolling in DS2 sucks and feels bad.
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Oct 26, 2023 19:18
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DS2 was the only one in the series that I gave up on because I hated it so much, but I don’t begrudge other people their enjoyment. DS3 was my favourite of the three despite some other people apparently hating it, but I prefer Elden Ring over all of them since it's open world.
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Oct 26, 2023 19:21
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DS3 ftw, and the argument that it's just copying Dark Souls 1 misses the entire point of the game.
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Oct 26, 2023 19:53
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bloodborne>sekiro>elden ring> demon souls (og) > ds1> ds3> ds2 > demon souls remake (lol)
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Oct 26, 2023 19:57
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Tenchu 3 is better than all of them
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Oct 26, 2023 20:00
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Dongicus posted:bloodborne>sekiro>elden ring> demon souls (og) > ds1> ds3> ds2 > demon souls remake (lol) My opinion on the Dark Souls trilogy rotates with my mood/whichever I played last, but I'll agree with the front half of that ranking. (And yeah the Demon's Souls remake is the bottom of a top tier list.)
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Oct 26, 2023 20:13
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The proper way to rank the souls games is by which one has the most satisfying moonlight sword and. therefore. Armored Core 6 is the best soul-like and Sekiro the worst.
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Oct 26, 2023 20:20
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Bloodborne is the king among them but I'll give the second best spot to Elden Ring because it feels more satisfying to replay than Sekiro.
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Oct 26, 2023 20:31
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Saagonsa posted:DS3 ftw, and the argument that it's just copying Dark Souls 1 misses the entire point of the game. I'd argue it only finished that concept with the final DLC. (also good lord why were there so many swamps) I still like it more than DS2 tho. But Bloodborne remains king.
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Oct 26, 2023 21:07
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DS3 was not very fun to play. Many of the systems did not function particularly well and the level design was a massive step down from Demons and DKS2. That said, it was still a good game and it's nice to see the Dark Souls 1 stans getting pissy about getting what they asked for after 2 actually tried to grow its themes and explore new areas. Something 3 also did but most of them missed because they get their opinions and ideas directly from idiot YouTubers.
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Oct 26, 2023 21:11
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The furtive Nioh...so easily forgotten. I know it isn't a From game but I never hear about it and I'm curious about y'all's opinions. I'm bad at Souls games (I've only played and beaten DS1 and DS2) and Nioh was easy to kinda limp your way through so I had a lot of fun with it for the most part. Sekiro is very much the opposite of that so I doubt I'll ever give it a shot because, again, I'm bad. Unperson_47 fucked around with this message at 21:24 on Oct 26, 2023 |
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Oct 26, 2023 21:22
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Danaru posted:Tenchu 3 is better than all of them FromSoft only made the PSP version of Tenchu 3, the console version was made developed by K2 Unperson_47 posted:The furtive Nioh...so easily forgotten. I know it isn't a From game but I never hear about it and I'm curious about y'all's opinions. Nioh 2 is da best
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Oct 26, 2023 21:23
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dark souls 2 is good
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Oct 26, 2023 21:27
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DS3 never really clicked with me, It's like they tried to bring the more aggressive style of combat from Bloodbourne forward but without giving you enough speed/agility to properly match it. Every single trash mob feels like it does full on combo's.
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Oct 26, 2023 21:27
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Dark Souls is an amazing series because for a company established in 1986 and still regularly putting games out throughout the years, they managed to hit a speed boost in 2011 that firmly establishes them alongside Final Fantasy and Star Wars as franchises that people will argue over which one is the best or the worst until the end of time.
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Oct 26, 2023 21:34
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seems kinda like racism that the games are only about dark souls what about the light souls
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Oct 26, 2023 21:38
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Goon Boots posted:seems kinda like racism that the games are only about dark souls Or the demon erasure.
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Oct 26, 2023 21:40
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Unperson_47 posted:The furtive Nioh...so easily forgotten. I know it isn't a From game but I never hear about it and I'm curious about y'all's opinions. I went through all of Nioh 2 and I need to go back and do more of 1. I'd say even at their hardest, Nioh 2 bosses were more forgiving than the endgame/DLC type bosses in the From Soft games. Like, there were decent number where I braced for having to repeat boss phases and the Nioh 2 bosses didn't make me do that. Most of them aren't cakewalks, but that stood out to me anyway. The basic souls conceits of waypoints, consumable healing items, and you having to navigate a level to the end are similar enough. The weapons are more technical and character action game-y, which makes sense since it's the Ninja Gaiden people making the games. I think they're a lot of fun the same way learning Monster Hunter weapons are fun, but it's definitely different from the Souls games' weapon designs. Things I like: the healing system and the way collecting kodamas replenishes more in each region, the weapons/combat are fun, the co-op in 2 is fun but kind of sucks in Nioh 1. Yokai form in Nioh 2, and the burst counters you get in it, are also great and satisfying to pull off. Nioh 2 has a fantastic character creator, as well. Things I dislike: The looter shooter/diablo esque loot drop system with its little ticky tacky % bonuses and keyword effects and poo poo. It's pretty ignorable on base NG but you still end up with an assload of trash you need to dump after each mission. I'm also not a fan of the general "mission" structure versus an open world you're running around in. Also, Nioh 2 is overall the better game on a mechanical level, but the story is mostly filler caulking in background to Nioh 1, so playing 2 without 1 is kind of confusing and vague.
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Oct 26, 2023 21:47
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Nuns with Guns posted:The looter shooter/diablo esque loot drop system with its little ticky tacky % bonuses and keyword effects and poo poo. It's pretty ignorable on base NG but you still end up with an assload of trash you need to dump after each mission. I had forgotten about this part of Nioh. Yeah, I never interacted at all with that system nor the blacksmith that let you create weapons because there didn't seem like much point in it when I just found decent stuff and equipped what I found going through the game normally. I also didn't use the stance system all that much. I just liked whipping my kusarigama around at fools. I remember the DLC being gently caress-off hard and I didn't even finish the first mission I don't think.
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Oct 26, 2023 22:00
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playing nioh and not interacting with the stance system is like playing dark souls without rolling
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Oct 26, 2023 22:58
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Alaois posted:playing nioh and not interacting with the stance system is like playing dark souls without rolling Losing out on 80% of my moveset because I can't be assed to learn the mechanics
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Oct 26, 2023 23:07
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I would say that overall I like the Nioh games, but I absolutely hated that loot system. Getting a new weapon in a Soulsborne game usually has me thinking “Cool, I wonder how this one works? I can't wait to test it out!” but in Nioh it’s just another piece of scrap metal on the pile that may or may not be an incremental upgrade to what I’m already using.
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Oct 26, 2023 23:15
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If you want a good new Souls game there's Lies of P. Although technically it has more in common with Bloodborne and Sekiro.
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Oct 26, 2023 23:20
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lies of pee pee
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Oct 26, 2023 23:24
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Lies are stored in the balls
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Oct 26, 2023 23:26
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The best souls game is hollow knight
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Oct 26, 2023 23:41
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Gaius Marius posted:DS3 was not very fun to play. Many of the systems did not function particularly well and the level design was a massive step down from Demons and DKS2. after i finally got to and cleared the boss i put the game down and haven't come back to it, i was already burnt out
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Oct 26, 2023 23:47
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Losing out on 80% of my moveset because I can't be assed to learn the mechanics That's right.
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Oct 26, 2023 23:47
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Pus of Man begins to mutate as soon as it sees you, not at mid health...
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