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James Garfield posted:I don't think their problem was just finding a speaker candidate. The Gaetz crew wants to do things that Republicans can't do when all they control is the house. Mike Johnson will become the establishment uniparty swamp when he won't hold a vote on An Act to Reduce the Age of Consent for Republican Politicians, which he won't because it would fail and a bunch of representatives would lose reelection. I can imagine a likely timeline where they lose the house before they cut Johnson. Johnson is more-so the rights guy than McCarthy was and arguably they won’t toss him out.
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Rigel posted:Re: suddenly hearing voices in your 40's, I always quietly wonder about extemely severe alcohol use. Hearing angry insulting voices is often one of the last gifts you can potentially get from decades of alcoholism. I had never heard of this before, but it is apparently a real thing. It is extremely rare, though. It also is usually triggered when an extreme alcoholic stops drinking cold turkey after 15+ years of heavy drinking. There's no information about the shooter's history with alcohol or drugs, but seems like it would be hard for him to keep a job in the army or at a gun store if he was a 15+ year heavy alcoholic. Although, it is definitely a possibility. quote:Alcoholic hallucinosis is a complication of alcohol misuse in people with alcohol use disorder. It can occur during acute intoxication or withdrawal with the potential of having delirium tremens. Alcohol hallucinosis is a rather uncommon alcohol-induced psychotic disorder almost exclusively seen in chronic alcoholics who have many consecutive years of severe and heavy drinking during their lifetime. Alcoholic hallucinosis develops about 12 to 24 hours after the heavy drinking stops suddenly, and can last for days. It involves auditory and visual hallucinations, most commonly accusatory or threatening voices. The risk of developing alcoholic hallucinosis is increased by long-term heavy alcohol abuse and the use of other drugs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcoholic_hallucinosis
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Gallup just released new polling on Joe Biden's approval rating, which has dropped by double digits among Democrats since last month: His overall approval rating sits at 37%:  Gallup posted:WASHINGTON, D.C. -- President Joe Biden’s job approval rating among Democrats has tumbled 11 percentage points in the past month to 75%, the worst reading of his presidency from his own party. This drop has pushed his overall approval rating down four points to 37%, matching his personal low.
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B B posted:Gallup just released new polling on Joe Biden's approval rating, which has dropped by double digits among Democrats since last month: Hard to say there is one direct cause for something with such a large margin of error as one subsample, but if it is the case, then that seems good. People should vocalize and provide measurable feedback for things like that. Especially for issues that are difficult/impossible for the average person to really weigh in on in a measurable way. The same polling also shows overwhelming support for Israel, so I don't think the behavior of "tell Israel to please be cool just a little bit in private, while defending 98% of their actions in public" is going to change much. Footage from Jamaal Bowman's fire alarm pull has been released by Capitol Police. Makes his original claim that he pulled it accidentally because he was thought it would unlock the door seem pretty implausible. https://twitter.com/KevinFreyTV/status/1717621065378054272
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The nation being desensitized to gun violence is apparent. Even on this forum, the discussion is quite limited compared to mass shootings of the past. The crazy thing about this one, is the guy is nowhere to be seen. Just shot up 30+ people and poofed out of there. Now they think he might be in Massachusetts, based on a car. The latest is that his boat is missing.
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Zotix posted:The nation being desensitized to gun violence is apparent. Even on this forum, the discussion is quite limited compared to mass shootings of the past. The crazy thing about this one, is the guy is nowhere to be seen. Just shot up 30+ people and poofed out of there. Now they think he might be in Massachusetts, based on a car. The latest is that his boat is missing. Maine is way bigger than folks think it is and very uninhabited once you get away from the coast, not hard to disappear or even cross the border if you have half the training this rear end in a top hat does
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Zotix posted:The nation being desensitized to gun violence is apparent. Even on this forum, the discussion is quite limited compared to mass shootings of the past. The crazy thing about this one, is the guy is nowhere to be seen. Just shot up 30+ people and poofed out of there. Now they think he might be in Massachusetts, based on a car. The latest is that his boat is missing. I think much is made of 'desensitized' when it comes to Americans and violence generally. And it's not wrong, per se, but I think it's fair to say it's not that we're dead to its impact but rather we feel depressed and impotent in the face of it. Sandy Hook was the high water mark, where something might have been possible nationally, and the lack of public will to do something about it has left a sense of unease and dejection that is fairly universal especially among young people. I haven't become desensitized - I'm more terrified than ever of being attacked by a domestic terrorist than I ever have been, and feel a deep sense of fear, sadness, and dread at each of these events. From the outside looking in, especially for foreigners, I suspect people see a lack of fanfare, news, and movement around these events and conclude no one cares. People care. They've just run out of the energy required to fight a news media and government that couldn't care less. In another country, the government and media would be mortified and would energize a movement to disarm the nation. We don't have that, disarming America requires a public will at the same level as the civil rights movement.
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Cimber posted:He is ideologically pure, managed to put an end to the embarrassment the GOP was going through, and is a loyal Trump sycophant. That's all that matters these days to the Republican party, the rest is just details. So what if he's ineffective. ineffective and inexperienced matter insofar as he gets a government shutdown pinned on the repbulicans or, god forbid, manages to make the republican war on abortion front and center going into 2024. there's some really big liabilities there
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Zotix posted:The nation being desensitized to gun violence is apparent. Even on this forum, the discussion is quite limited compared to mass shootings of the past. The crazy thing about this one, is the guy is nowhere to be seen. Just shot up 30+ people and poofed out of there. Now they think he might be in Massachusetts, based on a car. The latest is that his boat is missing. I think folks are resigned to the idea by and large that our political system isn’t capable of responding meaningfully to the demands of ordinary people who suffer because of policy. I know I’ve very consciously given up on the idea that my political desires can be achieved by voting, and I think that’s a natural and correct feeling a lot of people are hesitant to consciously accept because it has some pretty terrible follow-on thoughts. But it’s true, to me, that a calcified oligarchy run by decrepit liches doesn’t seem to either be able to get out of bed to help or simply doesn’t care to. Either of those are meaningfully the same in outcome to me. We can’t have the way of life other countries do, under the system we do. We can’t have health care as a right, nor can we restrain rampant gun violence, in the same way you can’t drive to the moon. Wrong tool for the job.
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Queering Wheel posted:The average trans person does not give a flying gently caress about blue hair compared to, you know, the right for trans people to get the medications and healthcare they need, or the right to simply exist in public spaces without being defined as porn, or being able to use the loving bathroom without being arrested, or what will happen if Biden loses, or GreenBuckanneer posted:Excuse me, I'm not worried about not being able dye my goddamn hair That's what I was trying to get across. Many transphobes just plain don't believe that trans people even exist. So there's an attitude among a lot of those circles that being any kind of trans, especially non-binary, is basically just a fashion trend for zoomers. But as all three of us said, the fight for trans rights is not about being able to dye your hair blue. It's not a fashion trend. It's about the right for people like us to even exist at all. Being legally and socially recognized and accepted would be great, but for starters, I'd like to just not live in fear of being physically attacked on the street by a stranger because of how I'm dressed. That's why I brought this up in relation to the Maine shooting. Transphobes think they're making cute little jokes about transfolks online, mocking people for things like hair, dress, and makeup. Because to them, that's as deep as it goes, it's just zoomers and freaks who want to dress weird, like emo kids before them. "Cringey blue hair trans person" is a whole category of transphobe meme. But it's not just cute little jokes about the people who dress funny. It's dehumanizing an entire community and having terrifying effects. And most importantly, we need to start recognizing that it's not just individual bigots being weird online. It's a coordinated assault. And I'm not the only one saying this. Mother Jones: Inside the Secret Working Group That Helped Push Anti-Trans Laws Across the Country quote:On a Saturday afternoon in August 2019, South Dakota Republican state Rep. Fred Deutsch sent an email to 18 anti-trans activists, doctors, and lawyers with the text of a bill he planned to introduce that would make it a felony for doctors to give transgender children under 16 gender-affirming medical care. “I have no doubt this will be an uphill battle when we get to session,” Deutsch warned the group. “As always, please do not share this with the media. The longer we can fly under the radar the better.” Meet the woman behind Libs of TikTok, secretly fueling the right’s outrage machine Then you have outlets like Libs of TikTok (Chaya Raichik), capitalizing on that rhetoric by encouraging their followers to target specific LGBT people. LoTT gives the impression of just being some rando twitter account doing her own thing, but it's not, it's funded and controlled by Babylon Bee, a right-wing outlet. They're involved with big far-right politicians, having been credited by DeSantis' staff as being influential on the Don't Say Gay bill, and being invited by Trump a few months back for a wine & dine at Mar-a-Lago, along with Seth Dillon, Babylon Bee's owner. All of that culminates in horrific violence: How Anti-Trans Rhetoric Set the Stage for the Club Q Shooting quote:“Constantly legitimizing these ideas to a hostile set of audiences or even just an uninformed set of audiences can change the realities of people's lives in a very material sense,” Strangio said. Is that enough to assert the existence of a anti-trans terrorist organization? It may be a reach, and I realize that. There's nothing to tie this specific shooting to transphobia yet. But another one will happen. Before it does, we need to start having this conversation. Transphobes are way more organized than us. We're reaching the point where just calling it "stochastic terrorism" isn't sufficient anymore; it's just regular terrorism. People like Catherine Leavy, who called in a bomb threat to a children's hospital, should be hit with the terrorism enhancement. Al-Qaeda was largely decentralized, too, but we recognized them as real terrorists. We need to start treating this movement as what it is.
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haveblue posted:Does Santos know that getting expelled from Congress is not a court proceeding? You're asking if a Republican knows something about how government works. The answer is always no unless it is directly related to
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James Garfield posted:I don't think their problem was just finding a speaker candidate. The Gaetz crew wants to do things that Republicans can't do when all they control is the house. Mike Johnson will become the establishment uniparty swamp when he won't hold a vote on An Act to Reduce the Age of Consent for Republican Politicians, which he won't because it would fail and a bunch of representatives would lose reelection. My reading is that Gaetz and the gang are happy with Johnson. Their whole thing was that they wanted one of their own with the gavel, and they were just waiting for any fig leaf to bounce McCarthy. They're all in agreement that the moderates have no spine and can be trampled, which is why they were surprised when Jordan couldn't get the votes. Instead they went with a different flavor of insane, one without enough baggage for people to vote against him on principle. Johnson is almost certainly going to be fighting with the rest of the leadership in order to try and push insane bullshit that will torch every representative not in an R +10 or higher district. And I can only laugh at the honorable loving idiots from New York who think they're getting the funding they want. The only way they're getting it is if it's part of a conciliatory CR that the Freedom Caucus agrees to because getting rid of McCarthy was the thing they actually wanted. Otherwise they'll be unable to get 5 assholes to vote for the bill, and the rest of the bill will be toxic to Democrats so they get nothing. mannerup posted:https://twitter.com/bresreports/status/1717644199468597621 Of course this is the type of dark comedy congressional session where Santos gets bounced before Gaetz.
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Apparently the hard core right are already turning on Johnson and calling him a hidden Dem because he has a black child and has made some statements that racism is bad. https://twitter.com/emeriticus/status/1717312823842291904 quote:“It’s even worse than it looks when you see the full context. He went on PBS a week after George Floyd’s overdose and called it an ‘outrage’ and ‘objectively an act of murder,’ and then went on to fully endorse BLM’s talking points and policy prescriptions,” he continued. “Completely disqualifying. Every conservative celebrating this guy needs to watch this interview.” Murgos fucked around with this message at 23:18 on Oct 26, 2023 |
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Murgos posted:Apparently the hard core right are already turning on Johnson and calling him a hidden Dem because he has a black child and has made some statements that racism is bad. Oh my god they're actually giving him the McCain treatment
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Impressive considering he is a full blown young earth creationist. Figured that would have given him quite the lee way with the crazies.
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Mendrian posted:From the outside looking in, especially for foreigners, I suspect people see a lack of fanfare, news, and movement around these events and conclude no one cares. People care. You might want to define "people" because literally half this country votes for more mass shootings.
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This is the typical ratcheting process where the fascists put a fascist in power but he's not pure enough, so the window of acceptability for fascist politicians shifts even further right. Repeat ad nauseam until we get someone openly calling for black people to be enslaved again. The same process that's been happening for like 40 years.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Footage from Jamaal Bowman's fire alarm pull has been released by Capitol Police. Makes his original claim that he pulled it accidentally because he was thought it would unlock the door seem pretty implausible. Why? Because he walks away from the door after pulling the alarm, instead of trying to go through? Let's take a closer look at that sign that was on the door:  The video only runs for about ten seconds after he pulls the alarm, so if he were to try to go through the door again after pulling the alarm, we wouldn't be able to see it in the video.
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102623_4 posted:what the gently caress is usce United States Current Events, my friend who is probably the permabanned user keeping the forums afloat with the world's most boring account names
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Sami Zayn was made an Honorary Usce and it really elevated the Bloodline storyline
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Sounds like they may have the shooter surrounded at a house. FBI is at the suspects home saying "Come out with your hands up."
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Zotix posted:Sounds like they may have the shooter surrounded at a house. They probably should have looked there first.
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Zotix posted:Sounds like they may have the shooter surrounded at a house. FBI is at the suspects home
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Tayter Swift posted:I refuse to believe this. https://x.com/connorclementtv/status/1717683203710894376?s=20 https://x.com/_KOBrien/status/1717682330683199634?s=20
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Zotix posted:https://x.com/connorclementtv/status/1717683203710894376?s=20 they already looked in the home according to cnn
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GreenBuckanneer posted:they already looked in the home according to cnn Yeah but they are back. CNN is covering it live as well. The police seem to think there's a good chance he's in there. Multiple drones, helicopter overhead, and lots of police flooded there again in the past half an hour. Obviously not 100% sure he's in there, but there's some reason they flooded back there.
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Twibbit posted:Impressive considering he is a full blown young earth creationist. Figured that would have given him quite the lee way with the crazies. Look at how quickly they turned on Paul Ryan. How could it turn out different
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:Look at how quickly they turned on Paul Ryan. How could it turn out different That other idiot didn't bring raw steaks to strap to their face and distract the face eating leopards 
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Zotix posted:Yeah but they are back. CNN is covering it live as well. The police seem to think there's a good chance he's in there. Multiple drones, helicopter overhead, and lots of police flooded there again in the past half an hour. Obviously not 100% sure he's in there, but there's some reason they flooded back there. The police presence is high, but it's not certain that he's in the home: https://twitter.com/MEStatePolice/status/1717691855385563218 https://twitter.com/MEStatePolice/status/1717691857163935940
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B B posted:The police presence is high, but it's not certain that he's in the home: Ya CNN's Evan Perez said he spoke with the police and they said something prompted them to go back to the house, not sure what it was. But they are going through the motions they need to go through.
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Zotix posted:FBI is at the suspects home saying "Come out with your hands up." Confirmation shooter is white
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Charliegrs posted:You might want to define "people" because literally half this country votes for more mass shootings. Well yes but I think it's fair to say when we're talking about people being 'desensitized to violence' we're not specifically discussing the ghouls, because clearly they want more violence. If the question is, 'why don't opposed Americans do something about it' that's what I'm responding to. Also "half the country" is absurdly generous, we are a minority run government in this year 2023. selec posted:I think folks are resigned to the idea by and large that our political system isn’t capable of responding meaningfully to the demands of ordinary people who suffer because of policy. I know I’ve very consciously given up on the idea that my political desires can be achieved by voting, and I think that’s a natural and correct feeling a lot of people are hesitant to consciously accept because it has some pretty terrible follow-on thoughts. This precisely how I feel. My views will never be expressed in the news and my views will be watered down, cut in half, made palatable and regurgitated by only the most daring of Democrats. This country cannot be fixed with voting, it can only be kept from barely teetering into a fascist pit. "Vote blue to keep your existence on life support" doesn't sound as good as "vote blue no matter who."
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