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The 19th president thing is actually kinda fascinating, neither candidate actually *Won* that election and the South basically threatened to start another Civil War if they didn't just toss Hayes into office. For Sovcits, it provides enough pseudo-legalese to argue that the whole system is illegitimate and that's why I don't have to come to court over no drat DUI 
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DarklyDreaming posted:The 19th president thing is actually kinda fascinating, neither candidate actually *Won* that election and the South basically threatened to start another Civil War if they didn't just toss Hayes into office.
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DarklyDreaming posted:The 19th president thing is actually kinda fascinating, neither candidate actually *Won* that election and the South basically threatened to start another Civil War if they didn't just toss Hayes into office. It was more that the South threatened to restart the Civil War if they didn't let Tilden (who was all of one electoral vote short of the 185 vote minimum) take the win. Hayes won them back into the fold by promising to end Reconstruction and halt federal enforcement of the Reconstruction Amendments across the South in the Second Corrupt Bargain. after which the House Dems who were filibustering and holding up the proceedings of the electoral commission on the issue stopped doing so, throwing the election to Hayes.
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In retrospect, you guys should've just called their bluff and stomped the Confederacy a second time if they actually followed through.
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That's akin to the Pattonesque "we could've avoided the Cold War if we'd just kept driving through Germany and invaded the Soviet Union then and there" point of view in terms of net good it would've done
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skeleton warrior posted:That's akin to the Pattonesque "we could've avoided the Cold War if we'd just kept driving through Germany and invaded the Soviet Union then and there" point of view in terms of net good it would've done While correct about the futility of it, in the 1870s instance the federal government could have continued to occupy the South and/or called their bluff and won (albeit at tremendous cost), whereas Patton was entirely up his own rear end and would have gotten completely steamrolled by the Red Army in short order had the US been so utterly foolish as to try to invade the USSR.
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BREAKING: Judge Engoron Puts Trump on Witness Stand, Fines Him $10,000 For ‘Violating’ Gag Order – Then Warns, “Don’t Do It Again Or It’ll be Worse”quote:To: Red Badger quote:To: ConservativeInPA quote:To: Lockbox quote:To: Red Badger quote:To: Red Badger quote:To: Red Badger quote:To: Red Badger quote:To: Engraved-on-His-hands quote:To: Engraved-on-His-hands
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Oct 25, 2023 21:26
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Trump sacrificing himself to the gulag. I'll pay to have the painting done
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Oct 25, 2023 21:29
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You're an evil communist agent of destruction who brings nothing but misery to the world. And your tie sucks!!!
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Very serious people
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US House of Representatives approves resolution in support of Israel, 412 to 10 Most of this thread is really boring but there are some bangers. Freep: Only forever war brings peace. quote:To: Roman_War_Criminal quote:To: cgbg quote:To: Jim Noble
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"addressing things at home" is purely "locking up and beating more people" not, you know, homelessness or hunger or schools or or or or or
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Freep find out about Johnson’s blacks child and his, “maybe racism might exist” statements?
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quote:Only forever war brings peace. Wow.
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Vichan posted:Wow. lmao I googled it wondering if it was from The Forever War or some other scifi book a chud would completely misunderstand. But nope that's a BusterDog original.
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More freedom democracy please!
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"Freedom Democracy"
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Okay, remind me, which of those things are they angry because they think Biden and Democrats are saying them now, and which of those things were what they were screaming to anyone who opposed Bush and the Iraq War twenty years ago
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skeleton warrior posted:Okay, remind me, which of those things are they angry because they think Biden and Democrats are saying them now, and which of those things were what they were screaming to anyone who opposed Bush and the Iraq War twenty years ago more forever war leads to more freedom democracy, hope that helps
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Charlottesville’s Robert E. Lee statue has met its end, in a 2,250-degree furnace. quote:To: All quote:To: Ennis85 quote:To: Ennis85 quote:To: Ennis85 quote:To: Ennis85 quote:To: Ennis85 quote:To: Ennis85 quote:To: heartwood quote:To: libertylover quote:To: MinorityRepublican quote:To: Ennis85
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lmao Even more of a wild ride than usual I was particularly taken by the poster that wanted to replace Lee's statue with Trump's.
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kik2dagroin posted:Charlottesville’s Robert E. Lee statue has met its end, in a 2,250-degree furnace. I'd love to tell these guys most of America's problems can be directly traced back to the Union not making it legal immediately post-war to hunt former Confederate soldiers, officials, and known sympathizers for sport.
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I see we're in a "Confederates were
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LOL "I have three great grandfathers who fought for the Union" either that guy is a lying piece of poo poo or he's old as gently caress. Not just regular Freeper old - that poo poo was 160 years ago.
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A 70-year-old’s grandfather would have fought in World War I, right? The last Civil War veterans died in the 50s, were over 100, and were under 15 while they were soldiers.
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NOTE: I am NOT a neo-confederate. Please do not put in the papers that I am a neo-confederate.
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I AM GRANDO posted:A 70-year-old’s grandfather would have fought in World War I, right? The last Civil War veterans died in the 50s, were over 100, and were under 15 while they were soldiers. Yeah that guys probably lying regardless but the math isn’t out of the question. It’s weird as hell, but president John “died in 1862” Tyler has a living grandson in 2023.
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The last person married to a civil war veteran died only 2 years ago, which is something I wasn’t ready to learn  it doesn’t feel right to call her a civil war widow, but idk a better term for it (and I’m not going looking for that, I want some brain-bleach instead). https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/last-surviving-widow-civil-war-veteran-dies-101-180976702/ She was 17, and married a 93-year old. He died in 1939, after they married in 1936.
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Icon Of Sin posted:The last person married to a civil war veteran died only 2 years ago, which is something I wasn’t ready to learn This is tied to unusually broad and generous pension payment systems, not sex. It's immediately described in the article. Did you not read it?
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Glad to learn I wasn't the only person to read that post and start trying the math Like, ok, only one of my great grandparents were born before the drat Treaty of Versailles, so this freeper must be... I don't think they are lying though. I fully believe there are some old as gently caresss
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Discendo Vox posted:This is tied to unusually broad and generous pension payment systems, not sex. It's immediately described in the article. Did you not read it? Good for her, but it’s still a 17 year old that married someone far older. This was apparently a thing for soldiers then* to do when they were old, and some of those couples still managed to have kids out of it. That’s how you get someone that’s pushing a century old now who could’ve had a father that fought in the civil war. *soldiers now tend to get married immediately so they can move out of barracks hell, but that’s a different issue entirely
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I'm 60, and all my great grandparents were born in the 1860s. There were no significant age disparities in my ancestors' marriages, they just went on having children into their forties, as was common. So I think it would be easy for an 80-year-old to have great grandparents born in the 1830s.
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"My ancestors would be very unhappy to see monuments to the man they fought destroyed"
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Another thing that can stretch the generations a bit is remarriage; I have a great-great grandfather who fought for the Union, but we descend from the children of his second, younger (but not like that extreme example above) second wife after his first died a few years after the war ended.
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Heh. Some FREEP / Meme thread crossover.
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I AM GRANDO posted:A 70-year-old’s grandfather would have fought in World War I, right? The last Civil War veterans died in the 50s, were over 100, and were under 15 while they were soldiers. I’m 44 and my grandfather fought in WWI. He died when my dad was 16, 20 years before I was born.
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Forgive my ignorance, I don't know what the third or first racist melters are. Maybe I'm too old? vvv thanks! I am indeed old, but in this case it was just ignorance. Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 19:56 on Oct 27, 2023 |
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Discendo Vox posted:Forgive my ignorance, I don't know what the third or first racist melters are. Maybe I'm too old? I think the first one is Senator Kelly melting near the end of the first X-Men movie?
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Discendo Vox posted:Forgive my ignorance, I don't know what the third or first racist melters are. Maybe I'm too old? Third is the Robert E. Lee statue they just melted down this week that was part of the White Nationalist March in 2017. First is from X-Men (2000 - 20th Century Fox Entertainment).
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downout posted:More freedom democracy please! Freedemocracy, surely.
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