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Boxturret posted:i love the "let me answer the question I think you were trying to ask" part no no you're doing it wrong, if i were trying to get me to confess to all the crimes i did i'd phrase it like this
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Oct 27, 2023 18:42
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this is going to be such an amazing shitshow i can't even.
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Trillhouse posted:i...still don't really get what the defense is going for. I know innercitypress is heavily abridged and lacks some context, but other than trying to say "advice of council" without actually saying it i haven't heard anything that isn't meandering and confusing. i can't wait for the livestream tonight, I need to hear about sam swiveling in his chair like a toddler and handling evidence like it's a bomb. near as i can tell, the defense is going to be 'i was just giving orders, i cannot be held responsible for the crimes of the people carrying them out'
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https://x.com/innercitypress/status/1717965461663404072?s=20 buttcoin: SBF: I ended up thinking- OBJECTION
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Oct 27, 2023 19:22
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refleks posted:https://x.com/innercitypress/status/1717965461663404072?s=20 at this point even the judge wants him to shut up
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Is there any way to read that thread without a twitter account?
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ryde posted:Is there any way to read that thread without a twitter account? change it to nitter.net https://twitter.com/innercitypress/status/1717967007654576440?t=H-FFdFtI8O_-U-Qyos3MbA&s=19 > https://nitter.net/innercitypress/status/1717967007654576440?t=H-FFdFtI8O_-U-Qyos3MbA&s=19
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Trillhouse posted:i...still don't really get what the defense is going for. I know innercitypress is heavily abridged and lacks some context, but other than trying to say "advice of council" without actually saying it i haven't heard anything that isn't meandering and confusing. i can't wait for the livestream tonight, I need to hear about sam swiveling in his chair like a toddler and handling evidence like it's a bomb. I think they're going for a sort of nullification type appeal to the jury? As in "you know how you just do what your lawyer tells you to do when you buy a house? That's what I did! And sure instead of buying a house I defrauded thousands of people, and the lawyer I hired was a convicted felon, but I tried my best!"
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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I think his defense is just scattergun. Get everything in there. We were doing it all for the first time in uncharted territory and didn't really know this was illegal and lawyers said (some of) it was ok and we made mistakes but only ever wanted what was best for the customers and maybe we made mistakes but that doesn't rise to the level of fraud. The problem is the mountains of evidence contradicting literally every single one of those points. Most of it is undone by just one photo of the loving penthouse he bought, which tells you everything you need to know about the motives at play.
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wait why did the prosecution object to sammy boi talking about going to vegas in a card game context? sounds like a layup for his gambling mentality?
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that's a "get to your loving point" objection i imagine
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Carthag Tuek posted:wait why did the prosecution object to sammy boi talking about going to vegas in a card game context? sounds like a layup for his gambling mentality? to make the defense ask the relevant question without getting to tell a whole story to frame it first
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Let Sam list his favourite fidget spinners, drat it!
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Boxturret posted:i love the "let me answer the question I think you were trying to ask" part sam has the makings of a politician sincerely certain of his own stupid bullshit, answers the questions he wishes he'd been asked, commits crimes in spectacular quantity
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Tom Clancy is Dead posted:to make the defense ask the relevant question without getting to tell a whole story to frame it first alright yea, makes sense. seems like defense is just trying to get the entire story in long-form which is super boring. cant wait for sassoon to tear it apart
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PittTheElder posted:I think they're going for a sort of nullification type appeal to the jury? As in "you know how you just do what your lawyer tells you to do when you buy a house? That's what I did! And sure instead of buying a house I defrauded thousands of people, and the lawyer I hired was a convicted felon, but I tried my best!" I'm pretty sure I saw somewhere that the judge ruled yesterday that they can't make an "advice of counsel" defence. So I'm not sure what the next plan is.
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Lead out in cuffs posted:I'm pretty sure I saw somewhere that the judge ruled yesterday that they can't make an "advice of counsel" defence. So I'm not sure what the next plan is. theyre relying on his boyish charm and giddy withdrawal symptoms
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already been posted, but still, i love this bit so much
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fyi - cross won't start until monday morning. direct will continue through the end of the day and at the beginning of monday.
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Shame Boy posted:snakes don't actually unhinge their jaws (and that wouldn't make eating any easier if you think about it), instead they have what's known as a kinetic skull where the jaw bone is split in the middle so the two sides can move independently, and they kinda "walk" the jaw over food to move it backwards nerd
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ellie the beep posted:near as i can tell, the defense is going to be 'i was just giving orders, i cannot be held responsible for the crimes of the people carrying them out' the rare reverse nuremberg...
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...! posted:nerd my greatest shame
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Shame Boy posted:my greatest shame mods pls change their name to shamenerd
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i can't believe there was a nerd hiding in yospos, how shameful
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Aren't you supposed to save your evasive non-answers for cross?
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someone was suggesting the defense is stretching things out so that the jury had time to "sit" with the testimony. i'd think you'd want to do the opposite, wouldn't the prosecution have the weekend to figure out the best way to dismantle the testimony?
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if yesterday's hearing was any indication, no, the prosecution needs no extra time to tear this paper-thin testimony to shreds, if there is anything to attack after this direct.
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Eeyo posted:someone was suggesting the defense is stretching things out so that the jury had time to "sit" with the testimony. i'd think you'd want to do the opposite, wouldn't the prosecution have the weekend to figure out the best way to dismantle the testimony? after yesterday i feel like the defense might be filibustering to get a weekend to prepare for cross
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Lolquote:J. Edward Moreno Two more days of having to listen to this tweaker talk. Everyone in the courtroom will hate his guts by then.
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mrmcd posted:Lol Bailiff: all rise Judge Kaplan: it's fine, let's get on with it. Send in the jur*door bursts open, foreman crying* please no more, we cannot take it. guilty! sentence him to one day of his own testimony, please your honor judge we beg of you please SBF fistpumping: Yes! got you suckers i got the hearthstone! silver rank here i come Carthag Tuek fucked around with this message at 22:32 on Oct 27, 2023 |
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has there ever been a jury that was given instructions for deliberating and they just said "oh, we're good, he's guilty"?
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JAnon posted:god it's gonna be so funny when he gets convicted I predict his mother loses her entire mind at verdict, if she makes it that far.
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Carthag Tuek posted:sentence him to one day of his own testimony, please your honor judge we beg of you please not while we have an eighth amendment sadly Jose Valasquez posted:has there ever been a jury that was given instructions for deliberating and they just said "oh, we're good, he's guilty"? I don't think they're allowed to announce they have a verdict before they move from the courtroom to the deliberation room but they can spend as much or as little time as they want in there
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