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“Beast” seems like an insensitive code name.
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emSparkly posted:I think the X-Men look really cool, but as far as I've seen like 70% of all X-Men comics seem to have been written by Scott Lobdell, Warren Ellis, or Joss Whedon, so no thanks. you've got to completely flip this: maybe 70% of x-men comics at this point haven't been written by chris claremont
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Oct 28, 2023 22:53
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emSparkly posted:I think the X-Men look really cool, but as far as I've seen like 70% of all X-Men comics seem to have been written by Scott Lobdell, Warren Ellis, or Joss Whedon, so no thanks. The Whedon ones are good too, which kind of sucks.
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Oct 28, 2023 22:58
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Aphrodite posted:The Whedon ones are good too, which kind of sucks. Very subjective!
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Oct 28, 2023 23:05
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Aphrodite posted:The Whedon ones are good too, which kind of sucks. His run is definitely standing on Morrison's shoulders. Which isn't to say it's bad, as following up morrison and not screwing it up is a minor accomplishment.
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Oct 28, 2023 23:06
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ynohtna posted:“Beast” seems like an insensitive code name. Mr Beast is beloved by all
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Oct 28, 2023 23:38
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maybe it's the past 20 years of Internet poo poo, but I am sure furries were a thing in the early 2000's if not late 90's. So all these shows from Gargoyles to Xmen missed it where some people would be lining up for days to date Beast or Nightcrawler or anyone who didn't look human. "Oh no I have been turned into a hot cat person by an evil scientist and want to become human again! Or.....I can stay like this?" I am waiting for a Beauty and the Beast where the beast is some kind of insect/vulture mix instead of a mammal hybrid. There might still be people thinking it looks cool but not many will line up to gently caress a cockroach with a Skesis face.
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Oct 28, 2023 23:53
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Ror posted:Mr Beast is beloved by all The one thing I know of Mr Beast is that he is universally hated, while at the same time apparently universally loved and a billionaire? I guess that's two things. I've never heard anyone SAY anything positive about him, but I also know he has like thousands of followers
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Oct 28, 2023 23:55
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Cowslips Warren posted:maybe it's the past 20 years of Internet poo poo, but I am sure furries were a thing in the early 2000's if not late 90's. Furries have been around longer than that. Furries as we know them today pretty much started around the 70s and they were introduced online in the BBS days.
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Oct 29, 2023 00:12
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Cowslips Warren posted:There might still be people thinking it looks cool but not many will line up to gently caress a cockroach with a Skesis face. *pointed glance at the Mass Effect fandom*
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Oct 29, 2023 00:14
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Byzantine posted:*pointed glance at the Mass Effect fandom*
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Oct 29, 2023 00:25
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A Sometimes Food posted:Eh you'd have a big wave of new readers coming in from the 90s cartoon and 2000s movies where he was cool. I don't think it's a disingenuous position. emSparkly posted:I think the X-Men look really cool, but as far as I've seen like 70% of all X-Men comics seem to have been written by Scott Lobdell, Warren Ellis, or Joss Whedon, so no thanks. Fun trivia though--Warren Ellis' X-Men runs are rightfully regarded as some of the worst in the franchise, where he always tries to make them his boring version of Gen X Scottich Het-cool. Like, look at this trash:  Reminder: this man was allowed to write this character into Excalibur and canonically deflower Kitty Pryde, because that's a normal thing to write in:   Aphrodite posted:The Whedon ones are good too, which kind of sucks. They also got Jon Cassidy who makes clean loving art, so it really elevates the writing and pacing above what it deserves. Ambitious Spider posted:His run is definitely standing on Morrison's shoulders. Which isn't to say it's bad, as following up morrison and not screwing it up is a minor accomplishment. Cowslips Warren posted:maybe it's the past 20 years of Internet poo poo, but I am sure furries were a thing in the early 2000's if not late 90's. credburn posted:The one thing I know of Mr Beast is that he is universally hated, while at the same time apparently universally loved and a billionaire?
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Oct 29, 2023 00:48
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Cowslips Warren posted:maybe it's the past 20 years of Internet poo poo, but I am sure furries were a thing in the early 2000's if not late 90's. So all these shows from Gargoyles to Xmen missed it where some people would be lining up for days to date Beast or Nightcrawler or anyone who didn't look human. in X-Men Evolution, Kurt tries really hard to hide the fact that he's a fuzzy blue demon elf man from his girlfriend and then she finds out and is even more into it
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Oct 29, 2023 01:11
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Cowslips Warren posted:maybe it's the past 20 years of Internet poo poo, but I am sure furries were a thing in the early 2000's if not late 90's. So all these shows from Gargoyles to Xmen missed it where some people would be lining up for days to date Beast or Nightcrawler or anyone who didn't look human. Furries have been a thing since the 1970s, possibly earlier. And I think that did actually happen to Beast at least once while he was an avenger in the 80s, possibly even a running gag.
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Oct 29, 2023 01:42
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Furries have been a thing since the first hunter draped an animal skin over their shoulders and announced that they were that animal
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Oct 29, 2023 02:11
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There's paleolithic cave art from 13,000 BCE depicting furries https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sorcerer_%28cave_art%29 Media that's not aging well: a lot of these ancient cave paintings are disintegrating and climate change may be contributing to the problem. 
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Oct 29, 2023 02:27
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emSparkly posted:I think the X-Men look really cool, but as far as I've seen like 70% of all X-Men comics seem to have been written by Scott Lobdell, Warren Ellis, or Joss Whedon, so no thanks. You need to see that 20-year Claremont run. It’s what made the X-Men cool and will also sometimes feature what is to adult eyes undeniably one of the author’s fetishes. Also it’s the origin of the three non-consecutive occasions in which Kitty Pryde says the n-word.
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Oct 29, 2023 02:43
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I AM GRANDO posted:You need to see that 20-year Claremont run. It’s what made the X-Men cool and will also sometimes feature what is to adult eyes undeniably one of the author’s fetishes. Also it’s the origin of the three non-consecutive occasions in which Kitty Pryde says the n-word. shout outs to the Demon Bear story in New Mutants, with some incredible early Bill Sienkiewicz art and also a random sideplot where a nurse and a security guard get forcibly changed into sexy injuns
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Oct 29, 2023 02:51
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I think the thing is just that Beast being a huge hulking blue fuzzy monster man who is also a soft-spoken, intelligent and brilliant scientist is a really solid character hook. There's a lot of ways that's been played, his inability to pass as human anymore vs him genuinely enjoying his newfound physical abilities, his attempts to control his mutation vs accepting what his body has become, that he's a big scary monster who turns out to be a sweet and brilliant man who everyone comes to love. Turning him into yet another mad scientist seems like massively squandering all that.
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Oct 29, 2023 03:02
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I AM GRANDO posted:Also it’s the origin of the three non-consecutive occasions in which Kitty Pryde says the n-word. I'm sorry, she said it more than once?!
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Oct 29, 2023 03:15
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Aces High posted:I'm sorry, she said it more than once?! This ain't the Kitty Tolerance thread, buddy!
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Oct 29, 2023 03:21
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Kitty Pride said the N-Word at least five times.
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Oct 29, 2023 03:34
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We must’ve skipped a thread title or two to be back on this one.
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Oct 29, 2023 03:59
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The one that is really gratuitous is where she works a whole line of slurs into a eulogy at her friend’s funeral. You could just say you’re sad he died fighting a supervillain, Kitty.
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Oct 29, 2023 04:20
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Kitty Pryde is a racist. Don’t act surprised when she uses racial slurs.
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Oct 29, 2023 04:40
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I AM GRANDO posted:You need to see that 20-year Claremont run. It’s what made the X-Men cool and will also sometimes feature what is to adult eyes undeniably one of the author’s fetishes. Also it’s the origin of the three non-consecutive occasions in which Kitty Pryde says the n-word. "God Loves, Man Kills", the eulogy for the kid who commits suicide in New Mutants* and... what's the third time? * Yes, Kitty unleashed a stream of racial slurs as part of a funeral speech.
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Oct 29, 2023 04:47
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oldpainless posted:Kitty Pryde is a racist. Don’t act surprised when she uses racial slurs.  this panel is free from slurs only because Kitty doesn't what to use for a Nightcrawler
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Oct 29, 2023 04:55
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Kitty White Pryde
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Angry Salami posted:"God Loves, Man Kills", the eulogy for the kid who commits suicide in New Mutants* and... what's the third time? It’s this one, from just a regular issue, I’m pretty sure: https://i.imgur.com/C1jQUMO.jpg Spoilered for n-word
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Oct 29, 2023 05:17
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Wow more like Kitty Prejudice* *not mine
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FreudianSlippers posted:Kitty Pride said the N-Word at least five times. In a row?
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I think the thing is just that Beast being a huge hulking blue fuzzy monster man who is also a soft-spoken, intelligent and brilliant scientist is a really solid character hook. There's a lot of ways that's been played, his inability to pass as human anymore vs him genuinely enjoying his newfound physical abilities, his attempts to control his mutation vs accepting what his body has become, that he's a big scary monster who turns out to be a sweet and brilliant man who everyone comes to love. Turning him into yet another mad scientist seems like massively squandering all that. It's practically a law of comics, once your IQ hits a certain value, you become a totalitarian dick. Hell, years ago when I first joined SA, I lurked around and posted in BSS a lot, and I remember that"Reed Richards is an rear end in a top hat" was like the first commandment.
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A Sometimes Food posted:I think this is a big reason people hate it yeah. Beast was traditionally the super scientist who wasn't a raging rear end in a top hat. Well before the Bendis run, Beast pretended to be gay to make his ex feel bad: 
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Oct 29, 2023 11:41
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Alhazred posted:Well before the Bendis run, Beast pretended to be gay to make his ex feel bad: I would say that this panel is proof why Kelsey Grammer was perfect casting at the time. Try to not read this conversation as something that happened in Frasier. I'll wait. 
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Oct 29, 2023 13:13
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I quit buying comics over a decade ago, but I think it's weird and kinda dumb that Beast is all evil now. I mean isn't that why Dark Beast is a thing?
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Oct 29, 2023 14:47
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Tall Tale Teller posted:I quit buying comics over a decade ago, but I think it's weird and kinda dumb that Beast is all evil now. Those panels I posted are over two decades old. Time to face the fact that Beast was always bad.
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Oct 29, 2023 16:21
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Wow, older than me. Jesus Christ
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Oct 29, 2023 16:24
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I was thinking bad like wolverine clones bad not like faking gay for the lulz bad but holy poo poo two decades? Ughhhhhh I just turned 41 and those panels make me feel old as poo poo. I BOUGHT THOSE BOOKS AS THEY CAME OUT
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Alhazred posted:Those panels I posted are over two decades old. Time to face the fact that Beast was always bad. And 10 years ago he was pulling younger versions of himself and his friends out of the timeline to win an argument with Cyclops. Which culminates with his younger self calling him a dick and despairing at the person he'd eventually turn into.
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