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Was the commentary saying a possible date with Usyk in December lol
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This is the one outcome no one was expecting. I saw a few punters that thought Ngannou had a chance to clip him (and Ngannou's power is loving insane) and plenty that thought Fury would pick him to bits. "Fury wins an unconvincing decision after getting knocked down" wasn't anyone's prediciton. Amazing. This stupid loving sport.
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Hit Man posted:Was the commentary saying a possible date with Usyk in December lol I think it's a confirmed date actually
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Oct 29, 2023 00:43
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I have a question for those more knowledgeable about boxing than me. If the referee had noticed the elbow Fury landed should that have been a point deduction?
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Oct 29, 2023 00:44
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im gonna miss francis in the cage, please take care of him boxing thread
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Oct 29, 2023 00:47
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duckdealer posted:I have a question for those more knowledgeable about boxing than me. If the referee had noticed the elbow Fury landed should that have been a point deduction? no it would have been a warning
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Oct 29, 2023 00:48
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Ngannou looked legit. He would have a solid shot against anyone
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Oct 29, 2023 00:51
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I'm not a boxing fan but didn't fury get tooled there? Please explain the scoring for me
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Oct 29, 2023 00:52
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Kween posted:I'm not a boxing fan but didn't fury get tooled there? Please explain the scoring for me scoring is done in a round by round basis at the conclusion of each round. the winner of the round gets 10 points and the loser gets 9 points. if there is a knockdown the loser gets 8 points. if there are two knockdowns the loser gets 7 points. judges choose a winner based on an arbitrary estimation of punches landed, thrown, activity, etc.
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Oct 29, 2023 00:54
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KidDynamite posted:no it would have been a warning Ok cool, thanks.
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Oct 29, 2023 00:56
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Kween posted:I'm not a boxing fan but didn't fury get tooled there? Please explain the scoring for me welcome to the sport, friend. the fight was in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. the Saudi Arabian government, as part of a massive sportswashing campaign, seemed to spend about a billion and a half dollars on this one fight to start something called Riyadh Season. as part of Riyadh Season, they have Fury already committed--before the fight--to have his next fight against Oleksandr Usyk in late December. Ngannou winning would have really messed that timeline up. And although apparently the British commission stepped in to sanction the fight at the last minute, it was allegedly going to be self-regulated by Saudi Arabia. and generally boxing, if you don't know, is arguably the single-most corrupt sport on Earth. so basically, IMO regardless of the actual fight, if it was at all close (and this one was close, even if I had Ngannou winning), it was 99.99999999% going to Fury. there's just too much money involved and planning already done for the Usyk match.
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Oct 29, 2023 00:58
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Well that has to be the best debut performance in boxing
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Oct 29, 2023 00:59
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So Ngannou got a 10-8 round and somehow fury won the other rounds he lost. Boxing judging seems a little bit wonky to me
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Oct 29, 2023 01:00
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Kween posted:So Ngannou got a 10-8 round and somehow fury won the other rounds he lost. Boxing judging seems a little bit wonky to me buddy, believe it or not, this isn't even in potentially the top 25 or so hosed up decisions of the last 10-15 years.
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DO YALL WANT A BOXC posted:welcome to the sport, friend. I knew boxing was a little bit dodgy. Didn't know it was that bad. Jeez that's 😔
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Oct 29, 2023 01:06
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the result isnt as bad as it seems, i actually had scored it 94-95 for tyson fury myself.
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Oct 29, 2023 01:11
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Where can you get the official Round By Round Scorecards?
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STONE COLD 64 posted:im gonna miss francis in the cage, please take care of him boxing thread To be honest, I plan to show up in the thread during NGannou's fights.
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It really wasn’t a dodgy result at all. The sport, in its wisdom, is designed to favor doing slightly better for most of the fight over having a dominant round or two. You could argue that that’s backwards from our usual ideas of who won a fight, and I would agree with you; blame the gentlemanly fathers of the sport.
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Oct 29, 2023 01:40
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at his age it would be weird for him to have more than a few more but hell I'm down for watching him take on hrgovic, zhang, wilder, or aj while fury and usyk are keeping each other busy
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Oct 29, 2023 01:40
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They canceled the post fight press conference
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if they dont do fury/ngannou 2 right away, whats the most attractive fight for francis? deontay?
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STONE COLD 64 posted:Where can you get the official Round By Round Scorecards? https://twitter.com/mmamania/status/1718436752321577376
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Oct 29, 2023 02:56
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Shouldn't have taken round 9 off
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Oct 29, 2023 03:30
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Oct 29, 2023 03:35
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my card is identical to garners except i had fury with round 1
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Oct 29, 2023 03:42
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Francis looked really good I hope he got paid because gently caress Dana White.
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Oct 29, 2023 06:01
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algebra testes posted:Francis looked really good I hope he got paid because gently caress Dana White. it’s crazy to me that a lot of the guys who have been crossing over are basically making what they earned in their entire career in one night
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holefoods posted:it’s crazy to me that a lot of the guys who have been crossing over are basically making what they earned in their entire career in one night the old way of MMA, before the Fertitta's sold it off, was the advantage UFC had over Boxing was while their top end couldnt make close to boxing money MMA cards were uniformly more entertaining top to bottom as boxing undercards were horrendously underpaid and not good, while in UFC undercards were paid better than boxing undercard fighters and were worth watching the whole event for. Since then however the gap between the lowest place UFC fighter and highest has grown astronomically and even the top end cant make boxing money while they stopped booking really good undercards. So there no reason to not just try your hand at boxing now instead - more money, probably better promotion, and just as rigged for whom the promoter wants to win more.
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Lid posted:the old way of MMA, before the Fertitta's sold it off, was the advantage UFC had over Boxing was while their top end couldnt make close to boxing money MMA cards were uniformly more entertaining top to bottom as boxing undercards were horrendously underpaid and not good, while in UFC undercards were paid better than boxing undercard fighters and were worth watching the whole event for. This is a very good point. It's surprising how many of the consensus 'best UFC fights ever' weren't main events or even on the main card. UFC 157 had two of them. One on each of the two prelims. (Nah Shon Burrell vs Yuri Villefort is an absolute barn burner but was understandably overshadowed by Grice/Bermudez) You settled in for the whole show since, even if the main event wasn't great, at least one extremely cool thing was likely to happen elsewhere. It also served as great promotion for up and comers or guys who were looking to get back on track.
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Enjoyed this from the guardian report https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2023/oct/29/tyson-fury-floored-by-francis-ngannou-but-wins-by-controversial-split-decision quote:Fury seemed flat and all out of ideas as a quiet and almost bewildered crowd watched the final two rounds. Weariness also took its toll and Fury did not attempt to force the pace. It was almost as if he believed that the judges would favour him and so he allowed his fate to be protected by their decision-making.
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KidDynamite posted:i do not expect francis ngannou to get this decision. His comfort and strength in the clinch did a lot of work for him. IMO he got more respect from Fury there than he did with his pretty well scouted movement and slipping the offense Fury threw out him. I kept thinking how much bigger he looked that Wilder. I guess despite being 3 inches shorter, being 40lbs heavier will do that. I think the optics of being that strong were in his favor in so many little ways which will help with his drawing power.
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Yeah he seemed so much more solid than the typical lean heavyweight in the clinch. Even Joshua, who is made of muscles has a more v shaped body. Ngannou is like a bigger Mike Tyson or something. If it was a battle for the title of baddest man on the planet, actually I think Francis took it. He seemed like the better and more dangerous overall fighter to me. Even if he can't woo the corrupt judges as well as Fury.
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Lid posted:the old way of MMA, before the Fertitta's sold it off, was the advantage UFC had over Boxing was while their top end couldnt make close to boxing money MMA cards were uniformly more entertaining top to bottom as boxing undercards were horrendously underpaid and not good, while in UFC undercards were paid better than boxing undercard fighters and were worth watching the whole event for. Back when there was ~12 cards a year and every single one of them was loving stacked, fight days were like xmas. Even if the fights were poo poo, they were consequential so we could all still speculate about what the poo poo fight meant for the division or whatever. And between cards these threads would just be some of the funniest poo poo on the forums. Amazing time to be a fan.
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Happy to see Francis doing well and getting paid, but I think we're being set up for the rematch. I'm thinking Fury knew he was guaranteed to win the decision (which he did anyway, though it was close) giving him the opportunity to make it a closer fight than it needed to be. All through the fight you could see him suddenly gear up, land a few good jabs, utilize his movement, showing how good a fighter he really is... and then stop. It got too close for comfort in the 3d, but now everybody's talking about how close it was and the rematch will do gangbusters.
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Whether or not Fury was dragging it, I think this would be the best Fury matchup Ngannou could manage. For any incremental improvement he could make on countering, Fury will have a tenfold improvement in distance management and not loving with the clinch. One thing Ngannou really capitalized on was having pretty varied punch speed, with some blistering southpaw 1-2s. I think that was part of why Fury was hesitant to engage, having been caught by a few fast shots throughout. Now he can just aggressively pop in and out planning on the worse case speed.
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Yeah when Fury said Francis was an awkward boxer i wonder if the inexperience meant that his odd timing made it harder to gauge what speed and range his punches were going to come from
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the paradigm shift posted:at his age it would be weird for him to have more than a few more but hell I'm down for watching him take on hrgovic, zhang, wilder, or aj while fury and usyk are keeping each other busy Zhang would kill ngannou, he’s scary powerful. Ngannou would beat Hrgovic. I think wilder gets a late stoppage
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Ngannou vs Andy Ruiz would probably be a good fight. I think Andy might be too fast for him though.
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