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Pomeroy
Apr 20, 2020

snoremac posted:

Do these kids face punitive measures on a state/social level for refusing to join the IDF? Aside obviously from prison, do they face harassment, blacklisting?

Regardless I'm heartened by their bravery. I'm just curious.

My mom went to university there a long time ago, so I can't say this is still exactly how it works, but the way she explained it, at the time one of the ways they tried to rationalize discrimination as technically not racist was by making almost all social benefits / welfare state measures dependent on military service, (with of course exceptions made for the ultra-orthodox), so I think you'd basically be cutting yourself off from whatever bits of the welfare state Likud hasn't eviscerated.

Pomeroy has issued a correction as of 10:42 on Oct 29, 2023

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Cuttlefush
Jan 15, 2014

gotta have my purp

Dancer posted:

If all the information in this video is accurate, this seems pretty damning towards the IDF's willingness to kill hostages.

https://www.tiktok.com/embed/7295188229844700446

Dunno, maybe this is good for sharing with normies.

no you should not show this to anyone. maybe a child young enough that they will never remember it. this kind of thing may have good intentions but that guy exudes bullshit energy and that editing makes me feel like i need to eat a handful of gas station energy pills and rip my own skin off

the only thing this might do if you try to show it to people is turn them into zionists out of spite. or turn them into a buddykins

Jon Carbuncle
Sep 21, 2002


Soiled Meat

lmao

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
this lady is incredible

https://x.com/slicksthigma/status/1718384754989342981?s=46&t=kY7HKwmb1RBg9U186lxtbg

VomitOnLino
Jun 13, 2005

Sometimes I get lost.

Lid posted:

I got into this article and that quote appears nowhere, but I did find the real source in doing so for future citing.

https://www.wgbh.org/news/2014-05-20/poverty-among-holocaust-survivors-hits-a-nerve-in-israel

Thank you! Bless

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
israel bombed a bus of civilians :smith:

The Ministry of the Interior in ⁧‫#غزة‬⁩ : Occupation aircraft targeted a bus carrying citizens south of Gaza City, causing a number of martyrs and injuries.

https://x.com/ajarabic/status/1718561179100959092?s=46&t=kY7HKwmb1RBg9U186lxtbg

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

the death of Matthew Perry has knocked the I/P war off the headlines for the BBC, not a good sign for unconditional support

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*

Comrade Koba posted:

(from t.me/VanessaBeeley/19712, via tgsa)

12 minutes long, but goddamn it’s a pro-click if there ever was one

cspam.avi

pro-click, here's a YouTube link if you don't have telegram:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9SHD2Dt2gc

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Pomeroy posted:

My mom went to university there a long time ago, so I can't say this is still exactly how it works, but the way she explained it, at the time one of the ways they tried to rationalize discrimination as technically not racist was by making almost all social benefits / welfare state measures dependent on military service, (with of course exceptions made for the ultra-orthodox), so I think you'd basically be cutting yourself off from whatever bits of the welfare state Likud hasn't eviscerated.

Lol how perfectly end stage capital it is to defang even their own punishments by destroying the incentives to comply

Chucat
Apr 14, 2006

Jel Shaker posted:

the death of Matthew Perry has knocked the I/P war off the headlines for the BBC, not a good sign for unconditional support

How does Iran feel about this?

Maya Fey
Jan 22, 2017


https://twitter.com/Sprinter99800/status/1718561905055334884

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Ah, trouble in paradise.

evilmiera
Dec 14, 2009

Status: Ravenously Rambunctious

Might be the first time in his life he's ever said that.

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

evilmiera posted:

Might be the first time in his life he's ever said that.

Spirits are high. I imagine the people he was trying to throw under the bus politely explained their position behind a closed door and he reconsidered his earlier statement.

Trying to blame the apparatchik for a personal failure while they are literally mobilised and angry about various things is perhaps not the best choice.

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003


how magnanimous and not a sign of impending government collapse

Buddykins
Feb 12, 2011


lmoa

Buddykins
Feb 12, 2011


:unsmith:

Luceid
Jan 20, 2005

Buy some freaking medicine.

lol defeated bitch energy. dead man walking

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
holy poo poo Hamas managed to infiltrate behind israeli lines and launch a surprise attack against their concentrations from behind!!

Urgent | Al-Qassam Brigades: Our mujahideen surprise the forces penetrating northwest of Beit Lahia after infiltrating behind its lines and clash with them.

https://x.com/ajabreaking/status/1718573464125059398?s=46&t=kY7HKwmb1RBg9U186lxtbg

Buddykins
Feb 12, 2011


:pathetic:

TDepressionEarl
Oct 28, 2010


I'm trying to win the World Cup
but I'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps playing Argentina onside


Calibanibal posted:

I'm starting to think that Hamas should have just built one big gundam instead of 1 million bottle rockets

on the topic of flights of fancy

i dreamed that the united arab emirates would cloudseed a great torrent to provide gaza with water

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

TDepressionEarl posted:

on the topic of flights of fancy

i dreamed that the united arab emirates would cloudseed a great torrent to provide gaza with water

the UAE are an israeli government they'd bomb Gaza before giving them water.

Buddykins
Feb 12, 2011

crepeface posted:

pro-click, here's a YouTube link if you don't have telegram:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9SHD2Dt2gc

thank you for this.

my dad
Oct 17, 2012

this shall be humorous

Pomeroy posted:

My mom went to university there a long time ago, so I can't say this is still exactly how it works, but the way she explained it, at the time one of the ways they tried to rationalize discrimination as technically not racist was by making almost all social benefits / welfare state measures dependent on military service, (with of course exceptions made for the ultra-orthodox), so I think you'd basically be cutting yourself off from whatever bits of the welfare state Likud hasn't eviscerated.

Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009

Al-Saqr posted:

holy poo poo Hamas managed to infiltrate behind israeli lines and launch a surprise attack against their concentrations from behind!!

Urgent | Al-Qassam Brigades: Our mujahideen surprise the forces penetrating northwest of Beit Lahia after infiltrating behind its lines and clash with them.

https://x.com/ajabreaking/status/1718573464125059398?s=46&t=kY7HKwmb1RBg9U186lxtbg

quick warning to all not to scroll to the bottom of the replies unless you want to get a lot angrier about what's going on than you already are. that image is never leaving my mind

evilmiera
Dec 14, 2009

Status: Ravenously Rambunctious

DancingShade posted:

Spirits are high. I imagine the people he was trying to throw under the bus politely explained their position behind a closed door and he reconsidered his earlier statement.

Trying to blame the apparatchik for a personal failure while they are literally mobilised and angry about various things is perhaps not the best choice.

He's been in the process of being fired for like the better part of a decade, clawing himself back to power every time, and now the only way it isn't going to be spectacular for everyone but him is if he bows and scrapes to the military who repeatedly told him he was an idiot.

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

Amid the blasts of countless bombs, the rattle of gunfire shows Israelis are in Gaza – and will stay

quote:

“What’s notable to me, is also that for the first time since the Hamas surprise attacks on October 7, we’re seeing efforts by Israel to stay in some areas of Gaza, particularly the north, possibly to locate and destroy tunnels, or [to find] hostages,” Michael Horowitz, head of intelligence at Le Beck International risk consultancy, said.

critical addition of [to find] by the guardian editor when we all know about the hannibal directive….

quote:


The Israeli army is well aware it is marching into a trap, that its lines of advance will be mined and booby trapped and that Hamas fighters with Russian-made Kornet anti-tank missiles will be waiting in the rubble. But the IDF plan is to obliterate the trap first, turn alleyways into flat boulevards through relentless bombing.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Jel Shaker posted:

Amid the blasts of countless bombs, the rattle of gunfire shows Israelis are in Gaza – and will stay

critical addition of [to find] by the guardian editor when we all know about the hannibal directive….

lol flat. sure

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
20 Hamas fighters have broken into an israeli concentration and are fighting them now

Israeli sources: About 20 fighters from the Al-Qassam Brigades arrived at a gathering of Israeli forces north of Beit Lahia and are engaged in fighting with them.

https://x.com/ajarabic/status/1718580436060741752?s=46&t=kY7HKwmb1RBg9U186lxtbg

TDepressionEarl
Oct 28, 2010


I'm trying to win the World Cup
but I'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps playing Argentina onside


Al-Saqr posted:

the UAE are an israeli government they'd bomb Gaza before giving them water.

so the magic is real but the warlock is a miser

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

Jel Shaker posted:

Amid the blasts of countless bombs, the rattle of gunfire shows Israelis are in Gaza – and will stay

critical addition of [to find] by the guardian editor when we all know about the hannibal directive….

lol the guardian is such a loving zionist rag now its incredible.

Fuligin
Oct 27, 2010

wait what the fuck??

Jel Shaker posted:

Amid the blasts of countless bombs, the rattle of gunfire shows Israelis are in Gaza – and will stay

critical addition of [to find] by the guardian editor when we all know about the hannibal directive….

Mmmm, learning the right lessons from Stalingrad i see

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
Aljazeera reporting live that despite Israeli demands that people move south of gaza, the news caster there is reporting there's a REVERSE flow, that people who were bombed out of their houses and headed south for shelter, are now headed back to the middle and north, and now are staying put in the rubble of their own homes.

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь

Al-Saqr posted:

holy poo poo Hamas managed to infiltrate behind israeli lines and launch a surprise attack against their concentrations from behind!!

Urgent | Al-Qassam Brigades: Our mujahideen surprise the forces penetrating northwest of Beit Lahia after infiltrating behind its lines and clash with them.

https://x.com/ajabreaking/status/1718573464125059398?s=46&t=kY7HKwmb1RBg9U186lxtbg

How are they so bad at this?

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Fuligin posted:

Mmmm, learning the right lessons from Stalingrad i see

one infantryman given an iron dome launcher system and the next man given an IOU for six missiles

Hefty Leftist
Jun 26, 2011

"You know how vodka or whiskey are distilled multiple times to taste good? It's the same with shit. After being digested for the third time shit starts to taste reeeeeeaaaally yummy."


Al-Saqr posted:

Aljazeera reporting live that despite Israeli demands that people move south of gaza, the news caster there is reporting there's a REVERSE flow, that people who were bombed out of their houses and headed south for shelter, are now headed back to the middle and north, and now are staying put in the rubble of their own homes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAs9laxC-rs

wynott dunn
Aug 9, 2006

What is to be done?

Who or what can challenge, and stand a chance at beating, the corporate juggernauts dominating the world?
https://english.ahram.org.eg/News/511171.aspx

“In a statement to Al Sharq News, Hany Mahmoud, the chairman of the board of directors of Vodafone Egypt, noted that the International Telecommunication Union issued a decision stressing the importance of restoring communications and internet services in Gaza in order to save the lives of those wounded in the ongoing conflict in the strip.

"Here in Egypt, our company is ready with some mobile stations, that we always use in matches and big events, to transport them to the border areas between Egypt and Gaza, and we are coordinating with governmental authorities to implement this."

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Clip-On Fedora posted:

This is something I would expect from country from the Middle Ages if they had access to modern technology. It’s like looking back in time.

The supposed brutality of the middle ages was an invention of the enlightenment

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy

Sancho Banana posted:

You have no loving idea. Right now on Israeli Twitter it's enough to tweet some moderate humanitarian poo poo like "in both Gaza and sderot, children deserve to live" to get dogpiled with comments calling you a nazi Hamas agent or whatever. Real example by the way.

they've seen people's (non-)reaction to the constant flood of political iconography and narratives from the ukraine war and figured they can do it too

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Maya Fey
Jan 22, 2017


https://twitter.com/againstwarvoice/status/1717871263111434513

Source https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveb...ulti-front-war/

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