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Mega64 posted:Bears could do worse. The wind whispers the name of a former Bears player and assistant coach: ~Jeff Fisher~
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Relentlessboredomm posted:There’s a few interesting quirks about that season DariusLikewise posted:The most impressive part of what Staley did in 2020 was because of Covid okay Chargers fans, you know what to do. get another global pandemic going
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The Chargers' personnel isn't suited for running the type of scheme he wants to run, especially in the defensive backfield. They're a group best suited for playing press man and closer to the LOS; they're just not suited for playing pillow soft quarters/deep zone coverage, which is what Staley wants them to do. They're a defense that is so hell bent on not giving up big plays, that opposing offenses just carve them apart on the underneath patterns. And then they give up big plays anyway, eg the opener against Miami. I'll give him some credit for the run D playing a lot better this season than in years past. Another low key part of why the coverage scheme sucks is that the pass rush isn't good enough to get home consistently. Mack is still a player who has flashes of brilliance (like the Raiders game earlier this season), but he's older and not a guy who can carry a whole pass rush by himself anymore. Bosa is playing on a bad toe and looks slow as gently caress out there in general. So, it's a combination of the scheme and the guys they have executing it who can't get done what they're being asked to do.
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:So what does Ron Rivera do when he's fired? Seems like too much of an established big shot to go back to being a coordinator. Wade Phillips went back to being a DC for many years. I guess he's a HC in the XFL now.
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Rivera seems to alternate between having a very good year for his defense and outright sucking the next year, before repeating. ...... I'd still take him over Joe Barry.
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I think Rivera seems like a pretty decent bloke all things considered. He'd probably be good in a booth somewhere.
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BlindSite posted:I think Rivera seems like a pretty decent bloke all things considered. He'd probably be good in a booth somewhere. Don Rickles voice: “Yeah! A toll booth!”
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Durandal1707 posted:The Chargers' personnel isn't suited for running the type of scheme he wants to run, especially in the defensive backfield. They're a group best suited for playing press man and closer to the LOS; they're just not suited for playing pillow soft quarters/deep zone coverage, which is what Staley wants them to do. They're a defense that is so hell bent on not giving up big plays, that opposing offenses just carve them apart on the underneath patterns. And then they give up big plays anyway, eg the opener against Miami. I'll give him some credit for the run D playing a lot better this season than in years past. there are usually 2 Chargers who always dominate the Chiefs despite their team losing, its Mike Williams and Joey Bosa. Both being hurt/out was a large part of the result.
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:So what does Ron Rivera do when he's fired? Seems like too much of an established big shot to go back to being a coordinator. Febreeze posted:On the other hand, this is now the second owner who has been ousted while Rivera is the coach, Maybe Rivera is secretly an owners grim reaper. Which team needs to hire him next? Browns? Chargers? I vote browns. Actually, chargers, if it means they move back.
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BlindSite posted:I think Rivera seems like a pretty decent bloke all things considered. He'd probably be good in a booth somewhere. Rivera is well-liked personally aside from his coaching. He could have a Bears radio show within 2 weeks of getting fired
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Qwijib0 posted:Actually, chargers, if it means they move back. It'd be miserable to see SD fans/residents crawling back to them on a return after how they were treated last time
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Chris James 2 posted:It'd be miserable to see SD fans/residents crawling back to them on a return after how they were treated last time The only way SD fans will welcome the Chargers back is with new owners
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Nfl owners should have to run for reelection every 8 years. cities can't vote on who buys the team but they should be able to force current ownership to sell
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Rod Hoofhearted posted:Don Rickles voice: “Yeah! A toll booth!” Grudging lol
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indigi posted:Nfl owners should have to run for reelection every 8 years. cities can't vote on who buys the team but they should be able to force current ownership to sell Relegation, but for owners. Down the XFL / AAFL or whatever
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Hizawk posted:Relegation, but for owners. Jerry Jones, proud owner/GM of the Birmingham Stallions
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I just can't help but feel Daboll's seat should be boiling hot right now. Two fourth and 1s, two field goal attempts that didn't even come close by a guy that's toast.
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He'll get a shot at bringing up his own qb. Remains to be seen if he'll go full Nagy
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Armitage posted:I just can't help but feel Daboll's seat should be boiling hot right now. Two fourth and 1s, two field goal attempts that didn't even come close by a guy that's toast. The Giants roster was one of the very worst in the league before they had to start their 3rd string QB. Sometimes as a coach all of your options are bad because your team is full of bad players.
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Armitage posted:I just can't help but feel Daboll's seat should be boiling hot right now. Two fourth and 1s, two field goal attempts that didn't even come close by a guy that's toast. Flip side he was playing his 3rd string qb on a terrible roster and still would’ve won if his idiot kicker could make 1 of 2 normal FGs
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Armitage posted:I just can't help but feel Daboll's seat should be boiling hot right now. Two fourth and 1s, two field goal attempts that didn't even come close by a guy that's toast. Gano deserves more blame than Daboll, that was a game where a single field goal could have won it, any points should have won it, and he shanked them both despite being the only reliable source of offense the Giants have Daboll isn't going anywhere till next year at minimum after this year they are probably gonna draft a QB, sit him behind Jones for a season, and then see what happens Febreeze fucked around with this message at 21:49 on Oct 29, 2023 |
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You know what, gently caress it, I might be the only Bears fan willing to try it, but let’s give Riverboat Ron a chance. At least I can briefly think back to the few good Lovie years with him as something we might see again before Game 1 completely destroys the dream.
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i hesitate to blame the guy playing with a knee injury (although why he is playing should be up for debate). daboll rostered a guy he didn't trust to throw a forward pass.
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Arthur smith…welcome to the winners circle
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corn on the cop posted:i hesitate to blame the guy playing with a knee injury (although why he is playing should be up for debate). daboll rostered a guy he didn't trust to throw a forward pass. the weather was very bad
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corn on the cop posted:i hesitate to blame the guy playing with a knee injury (although why he is playing should be up for debate). daboll rostered a guy he didn't trust to throw a forward pass. Not a lot of teams keep a third string QB that’s worth a poo poo but that also sounds like a GM problem not a coaching one.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:Not a lot of teams keep a third string QB that’s worth a poo poo but that also sounds like a GM problem not a coaching one. oh yeah Schoen shouldn't feel safe either. I dunno, I may have understood the decision if Matt Brieda's your RB, but I'd like to think Barkley has SOME shot at getting one yard, even if the Jets defense is pretty good without Al Woods.
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They're not firing the guy who literally just delivered their first playoff win in like a decade. This isn't a serious conversation.
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Febreeze posted:Daboll isn't going anywhere till next year at minimum after this year they are probably gonna draft a QB, sit him behind Jones for a season, and then see what happens I agree that Daboll is probably safe this year, barring some catastrophic meltdown that would require both on and off the field insanity. For non-Giants fans, it's worth pointing out the last three coaches were all fired after 2 seasons or less (Judge and Shurmur got two seasons, McAdoo was fired during his second season), and I don't think ownership wants to extend that particular streak. Benne posted:They're not firing the guy who literally just delivered their first playoff win in like a decade. This isn't a serious conversation. Also, everyone knew last year was a lot of smoke and mirrors early on, and they struggled down the stretch. It also doesn't help that this season has been hosed up since about 7 minutes into the first game, when Andrew Thomas got hurt, and it's snowballed from there in various ways, particularly on offense.
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Since starting out 7-2 or whatever last year, the Giants have won I think 4 games since One of them was in the playoffs lmao
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fartknocker posted:I agree that Daboll is probably safe this year, barring some catastrophic meltdown that would require both on and off the field insanity. The circumstances of those 3 firings were different than what we currently have now, too. McAdoo got the job because Coughlin got scapegoated for the team's decline over the 2010's, then when the team fell apart in McAdoo's second year Mara overcorrected again after the benching debacle and fired McAdoo and Reese to do a clean house They hired Gettleman, who hired Shurmur, but they (probably on Mara's orders) tried to make a final run with Eli happen instead of starting with a fresh young QB. That wasn't gonna work with the roster a mess so Gettleman drafted Jones, the team sucked, and Shurmur got the blame for it, probably unnecessarily but it's not like he was good. Judge was horrible hire that felt like the Giants got swindled by a guy who talked the talk after Matt Rhule got stolen by the Panthers, and he was meh his first year, and might have survived his second season if he didn't have a complete press meltdown late in the year and after firing Gettleman the Giants finally decided to have a true, genuine fresh start Daboll and Schoen are the first genuine attempt at a clean slate. Last year was supposed to be a *gotta grit out some contracts* year but they made the playoffs. They would need a catastrophic meltdown to get let go this year, and injuries are a good excuse so far. The team was in such a hole after the Gettleman failure and Mara is probably afraid to do it again. They need to fire the offensive line coach and have a good draft this offseason but it'll be hot seat time next year for sure Febreeze fucked around with this message at 22:41 on Oct 29, 2023 |
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In case anyone was still pretending Sean Payton was remotely on the hot seat I think we can firmly shut that door now. Beating the Chiefs at home cure a lot of ills
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Relentlessboredomm posted:In case anyone was still pretending Sean Payton was remotely on the hot seat I think we can firmly shut that door now. Beating the Chiefs at home cure a lot of ills There wasn't anything Sean Payton could do on the field to get fired this year. He had at least a 2 year leash even prior to this game. The coach who has actually probably saved his job is Vance Joseph.
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Bismack Billabongo posted:Arthur smith…welcome to the winners circle The falcons have beaten zero good teams but even that level of success is kind of baffling from Smith Ginger Beer Belly posted:There wasn't anything Sean Payton could do on the field to get fired this year. He had at least a 2 year leash even prior to this game. I’m not sure how serious any comments about Payton being fired year one were vs just wishing for the funniest thing ever to happen. But yeah it’s now 100% impossible vs the previous 99%
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Ginger Beer Belly posted:There wasn't anything Sean Payton could do on the field to get fired this year. He had at least a 2 year leash even prior to this game. what if he kneeled during the anthem?
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kalensc posted:Unless Sean organizes a unionization movement at a Wal-Mart, he'll be back for Year 2 at minimum.
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