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Famethrowa
Oct 5, 2012

hbag posted:

personally i think its good that the oneshot hitscan gun is harder to use now

I'd prefer the gameplay of knowing how to flash an awp off an angle rather than the current state of jiggle peeking and blindly spraying.

I don't even awp lol

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Psycho Society
Oct 21, 2010
have you tried not getting shot

Unbound
Dec 11, 2012

Atlantis for best map

All others are bugged...
Directions unclear; died in my own molly

Tetramin
Apr 1, 2006

I'ma buck you up.

hbag posted:

personally i think its good that the oneshot hitscan gun is harder to use now

It’s not. You can beat an awp just fine if you’re not loving bad. This mechanic is stupid.

Has anyone confirmed if rifles also do this? Because it would kinda explain some things. I doubt they are effected but just curious.

hbag
Feb 13, 2021

you can also avoid getting shot if youre not bad. and from what ive heard it happens with all guns

Garfu
Mar 6, 2008

Much like buttholes, families are meant to be tight.

hbag posted:

you can also avoid getting shot if youre not bad. and from what ive heard it happens with all guns

You know absolutely nothing about this game bud

symbolic
Nov 2, 2014

hbag posted:

personally i think its good that the oneshot hitscan gun is harder to use now

skill issue

e: also it's not even just peeker's advantage making the AWP weaker as-is, MR12 means less chance to even build economy toward it

symbolic fucked around with this message at 23:33 on Oct 29, 2023

UnknownMercenary
Nov 1, 2011

I LIKE IT
WAY WAY TOO LOUD


The only time I've ever found the AWP annoying is in casual mode because people can spawn in with $10,000 and then CT side is just like 10 AWPs.

Psycho Society
Oct 21, 2010
it would be badass if you could throw your knife

always be closing
Jul 16, 2005

symbolic posted:

skill issue

e: also it's not even just peeker's advantage making the AWP weaker as-is, MR12 means less chance to even build economy toward it

mm2

Good soup!
Nov 2, 2010

hbag posted:

personally i think its good that the oneshot hitscan gun is harder to use now

It's like a piece of driftwood floated from the planet half life forums circa 2004 and ended up on this thread's shores...........it's beautiful

Oscar aint no Slouch
Apr 29, 2014
This game's current online discourse is a potent mix of the gamerbrained whining new=bad, the game's foundational features still being in development, and straight up misinformation. It's actually hilarious. I went to browse r/globaloffensive for some laughs and someone was so gamerbrained that they claimed to have discovered how to "remove subtick" by capping their client's fps to 64 so that they could see what the server was seeing

Psycho Society
Oct 21, 2010
It is interesting the game gets such bad reviews on steam. it is in fact a very fun game

Slotducks
Oct 16, 2008

Nobody puts Phil in a corner.


Oscar aint no Slouch posted:

This game's current online discourse is a potent mix of the gamerbrained whining new=bad, the game's foundational features still being in development, and straight up misinformation. It's actually hilarious. I went to browse r/globaloffensive for some laughs and someone was so gamerbrained that they claimed to have discovered how to "remove subtick" by capping their client's fps to 64 so that they could see what the server was seeing

people on /r/globaloffensive were pissed that they took out the lovely battle royale mode when they went to cs2 lmao

faantastic
Dec 31, 2006

that dude.

I jump into comp solo occasionally and the amount of racist death threats I've received or heard is insane. Valve really should do something even if it's half-rear end lazy like Sieges system that instabans for typing select words.

Also give us comp solo queue, it sucks very hard when every 3 stack only uses discord.

astr0man
Feb 21, 2007

hollyeo deuroga

Oscar aint no Slouch posted:

This game's current online discourse is a potent mix of the gamerbrained whining new=bad, the game's foundational features still being in development, and straight up misinformation.

I think it would have been fine if they had released CS2 as a separate game (or preferably just kept it as an open beta). The main issue is that it completely replaced CSGO and is pretty clearly in a half finished state.

When CSGO originally released, they didnt remove CS:Source from steam. GO also released in a mostly complete state, and it included new game modes that didnt officially exist in Source (arms race + demolition) instead of removing things. The workshop didnt exist at that time, but basic features (that had existed since HL1 days) like server map downloads still worked on launch.

I get that they went the complete upgrade/replacement route because of cosmetics poo poo, and the source -> go comparision isnt entirely fair since this is a completely new game engine, but the other comparable Valve release (the dota 2 -> dota 2 reborn source2 engine update) was way better than this. (Reborn didn't lock you out of playing half of the existing hero pool because they hadn't gotten around to updating them yet)

e: also dota 2 got the engine update 8 years ago so imo it's completely fair to complain about cs2 being released like this when valve has had almost an extra decade to tweak the state of the source2 engine + server + SDK for cs2

astr0man fucked around with this message at 03:39 on Oct 30, 2023

Diqnol
May 10, 2010

astr0man posted:

I think it would have been fine if they had released CS2 as a separate game (or preferably just kept it as an open beta). The main issue is that it completely replaced CSGO and is pretty clearly in a half finished state.

When CSGO originally released, they didnt remove CS:Source from steam. GO also released in a mostly complete state, and it included new game modes that didnt officially exist in Source (arms race + demolition) instead of removing things. The workshop didnt exist at that time, but basic features (that had existed since HL1 days) like server map downloads still worked on launch.

I get that they went the complete upgrade/replacement route because of cosmetics poo poo, and the source -> go comparision isnt entirely fair since this is a completely new game engine, but the other comparable Valve release (the dota 2 -> dota 2 reborn source2 engine update) was way better than this. (Reborn didn't lock you out of playing half of the existing hero pool because they hadn't gotten around to updating them yet)

e: also dota 2 got the engine update 8 years ago so imo it's completely fair to complain about cs2 being released like this when valve has had almost an extra decade to tweak the state of the source2 engine + server + SDK for cs2

they learned something from the 1.6/source problem - if you keep the old game around when the new one has warts, most of the community will stick with the old one and half-kill your game in the womb. Also with items as they are now, I don't know how they could've done it another way

astr0man
Feb 21, 2007

hollyeo deuroga

Diqnol posted:

Also with items as they are now, I don't know how they could've done it another way

Yeah, and to be clear I'm enjoying CS2. But IMO they should have given it another few months in the oven and waited to launch once basic poo poo like workshop map support was working properly

FUCK SNEEP
Apr 21, 2007




Diqnol posted:

they learned something from the 1.6/source problem - if you keep the old game around when the new one has warts, most of the community will stick with the old one and half-kill your game in the womb. Also with items as they are now, I don't know how they could've done it another way

They could have removed casual and competitive while keeping community servers in CSGO. They didn't need to take it all away and leave no way to play certain game modes.

Pandaal
Mar 7, 2020

astr0man posted:

Yeah, and to be clear I'm enjoying CS2. But IMO they should have given it another few months in the oven and waited to launch once basic poo poo like workshop map support was working properly

I agree with you as far as enjoying CS2 (besides it's numerous and glaring faults at the moment), but they recently confirmed all of our suspicions with that recent "interview" wherein they admitted they released CS2 because everyone in the closed beta stopped playing and they still needed to collect feedback and bug reports. Season 1 is the Open Beta in all but name.

I'm honestly just impressed the game still manages 1m concurrent every day with nothing but comp and casuals in the game.

Oscar aint no Slouch
Apr 29, 2014
I remember reading a dev interview somewhere that 2 weeks worth of pushing a build to production is the equivalent of a year of qa, and that's just how games as a service works these days.

Junk
Dec 20, 2003

Listen to reason, man. Why make your job difficult?
i wonder when they are going to add the best cs map of all time, de_port

Kehveli
Apr 1, 2009

Push It Like You Push Your Girlfriend
They should have removed cs:s from steam in 2004

Oscar aint no Slouch
Apr 29, 2014
what do you mean cs source is the must-have expansion pack for garry's mod

Brooks Cracktackle
Oct 17, 2008

On the off-chance someone else has the issue where CS2 crashes silently all the loving time, try adding -vulkan to the launch options

It runs like frozen dogshit compared to directX but it seems to have stopped crashing for me. I'll take "bad performance but you can actually play the game" over "1000fps but you will crash on match point and get a cooldown" any day

hbag
Feb 13, 2021

Oscar aint no Slouch posted:

what do you mean cs source is the must-have expansion pack for garry's mod

Grimthwacker
Aug 7, 2014

Gotta make sure you're not missing any textures!

meowmeowmeowmeow
Jan 4, 2017
wait so unless im missing somethign with csgo turned off and no workshop support in cs2 theres no way to play surf or kz maps? Booooooo

Tetramin
Apr 1, 2006

I'ma buck you up.

meowmeowmeowmeow posted:

wait so unless im missing somethign with csgo turned off and no workshop support in cs2 theres no way to play surf or kz maps? Booooooo

Ya, and with no support for game plugins, even if you can load the maps no surf plugins for restart commands time tracking etc. it’s fuckin dumb

Famethrowa
Oct 5, 2012

saw on Reddit that capping your fps to 32 makes you hit almost every bhop. gonna try this before it's patched.

meowmeowmeowmeow posted:

wait so unless im missing somethign with csgo turned off and no workshop support in cs2 theres no way to play surf or kz maps? Booooooo

csgo is still accessible just "frozen" so I'm sure there will be a way to go to surf servers using it eventually.

hello internet
Sep 13, 2004

The surf servers on my favorites from CSGO are still active and populated

meowmeowmeowmeow
Jan 4, 2017
thats good to know but I probably wont be rolling back my install every time I wanna kz or surf for 30m, so fingers crossed they add plugin and workshop support asap!

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph
I sold a couple years worth of cases that were collecting dust on my old account, am considering flipping right around and getting a knife for the first time. Would feel real stupid to do if it actually gave me cash but since it's in steambux it is more tempting

Pandaal
Mar 7, 2020

Wowporn posted:

I sold a couple years worth of cases that were collecting dust on my old account, am considering flipping right around and getting a knife for the first time. Would feel real stupid to do if it actually gave me cash but since it's in steambux it is more tempting

Treat your fuckin self. I’ve gotten so much enjoyment out of my pixels, far more than other poo poo I’ve spent $400 on.

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph
True, and I have literally made money/gotten multiple free games throughout the years thanks to this one. I bought a rusty switchblade, love the animation on the stiletto so much and how daintily they hold it, very "tee heehee" rear end knife

PirateBob
Jun 14, 2003
I finally got my 10th wingman win after being saddled with utterly useless teammates too often.

My skill group is revealed. I'm a lowly Silver II. I'm guessing that's very lowly. I, too, am quite useless...? :saddowns:

Famethrowa
Oct 5, 2012

PirateBob posted:

I finally got my 10th wingman win after being saddled with utterly useless teammates too often.

My skill group is revealed. I'm a lowly Silver II. I'm guessing that's very lowly. I, too, am quite useless...? :saddowns:

If you are new new that's a pretty normal rank. just keep playing and watching how good people play. it's 50% aim 50% game sense.

PirateBob
Jun 14, 2003

Famethrowa posted:

If you are new new that's a pretty normal rank. just keep playing and watching how good people play. it's 50% aim 50% game sense.

Ok. I think I'm inconsistent more than anything. Sometimes I go 11-0, sometimes I gently caress up my aiming/bursting or when to peek and when to advance etc. Then there's just a lack of map knowledge/game sense in some situations. Gotta play more I guess. :v:

hbag
Feb 13, 2021

usually i go 11-25 so youre better than me at least

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Brendan Rodgers
Jun 11, 2014




Slotducks posted:

Someone close to me has part of his investment portfolio consisting of about $7K worth of Cases that he bought for about 1K back a few years ago or so. I'm not certain on the timeline.

It's really bonkers. He has this one storage thing where each case in there was $80

You could legit farm a bunch of cases and let them sit and then buy a Steam Deck. Honestly Valve invented so much of the poo poo everyone hates, from cosmetic hats to NFTs, they just never took credit for it

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