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SniperWoreConverse posted:Is having sex genocide Yes, it's also like a million abortions.
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"Are Palestinians going to die happier knowing that you are proudly astride your high horse" is that premium-grade poo poo
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Oct 30, 2023 22:42
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1glitch0 posted:Biden will put the entire force of the United States government behind Israel in their genocide in Gaza and there is zero chance he will stop. Trump would probably do the same. But it's not 100%. There's always a chance that some perceived slight would set him off and he'd gently caress over Israel. So Trump is actually the correct vote to stop genocide. also lets not forget this time trump may actually jail some democrats which would be great because at least some justice would be served lol
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Oct 30, 2023 22:44
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It is my dying wish that you vote for the guy who sent these bombs to be dropped on my family. No! No! Don't sit on your high horse with some insufferable moral purity! You must support my killer back into office so he can possibly maybe think about doing some symbolic act to help LGBTQ people three years from now if it doesn't cost too many swing votes.
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Oct 30, 2023 22:46
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ScootsMcSkirt posted:Have you read any human history? nixon voice "jesus christ"
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Oct 30, 2023 22:47
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'So yeah at this point "I want zero genocides" is an aspirational goal that is very far from being actualized' sounds like something SS men would be telling each other at the Wannsee Conference to steel themselves against any pangs of conscience over what was about to go down.
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Oct 30, 2023 22:53
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Y’all, we gotta RETVRN
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Oct 30, 2023 22:55
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Uncle Wemus posted:both parties are not the same. It is important that we do everything we can to not have Republicans in charge except opposing their policies in any way.
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Oct 30, 2023 22:56
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It's a year until the election The scolding will only rise, exponentially
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Oct 30, 2023 22:58
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which election is going to be the one where a vaguely-not-super-unreservedly-pro-capitalist candidate gets >10% of the vote and causes the democrats and republicans to drop the act and bring back the democratic republican party?
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Oct 30, 2023 23:03
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stumblebum posted:which election is going to be the one where a vaguely-not-super-unreservedly-pro-capitalist candidate gets >10% of the vote and causes the democrats and republicans to drop the act and bring back the democratic republican party? 1992
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Oct 30, 2023 23:04
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dnd doesn't hold a candle to the succ that is DU right now: https://democraticunderground.com/100218411301 https://democraticunderground.com/100218411850 https://democraticunderground.com/100218409428 didja know "genocide" is russkie hyperbole? that jayapal & tlaib should surrender citizenship? that whatever israeli officials say is the stone truth?
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Oct 30, 2023 23:10
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I also like DU bc I come across stuff like this over there. https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1719073906391220528 lolol that the gop is putting conditions on the money to israel.
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Oct 30, 2023 23:14
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Increasing government expenses while cutting the agency that levies taxes seems to be a problem over the long term.
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Oct 30, 2023 23:20
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so if this project 2025 poo poo is so awful, then surely the dems have their own long-brewing plan to use the federal government to achieve their own policy goals, right? let me see that plan. surely competent political operatives wouldn't have been sleeping at the wheel this whole time
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Oct 30, 2023 23:21
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SniperWoreConverse posted:Is having sex genocide It’s the opposite actually
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SixteenShells posted:so if this project 2025 poo poo is so awful, then surely the dems have their own long-brewing plan to use the federal government to achieve their own policy goals, right? let me see that plan. surely competent political operatives wouldn't have been sleeping at the wheel this whole time Oh so you want Democrats to be more like MAGA Republicans, is that what you're saying you Trump-loving chud?
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SixteenShells posted:so if this project 2025 poo poo is so awful, then surely the dems have their own long-brewing plan to use the federal government to achieve their own policy goals, right? let me see that plan. surely competent political operatives wouldn't have been sleeping at the wheel this whole time That’s fascism
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SixteenShells posted:so if this project 2025 poo poo is so awful, then surely the dems have their own long-brewing plan to use the federal government to achieve their own policy goals, right? let me see that plan. surely competent political operatives wouldn't have been sleeping at the wheel this whole time Alternatively: they do!! It’s called “trust us we are your betters and we know what to do” Why would it be smart for the transportation exports and climate scientists to lay out their plans on a website? You wouldn’t understand it and would keep complaining anyway!
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People who orient themselves as "anti-genocide" as opposed to being something more materially useful, like "anti-Israel" or "anti-United States", will invariably be talking about white South Africans getting clapped off the land they stole or the 100 million Uygur Muslims whose organs were harvested and fed to rats the Chinese communists trained for that express purpose. Like even if they concede a genocide is happening in Palestine they'd much rather talk about the hypothetical genocide of whites as a result of global decolonization than they would the material factors that led to the situation in Palestine to begin with.
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Oct 30, 2023 23:34
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Willa Rogers posted:dnd doesn't hold a candle to the succ that is DU right now: Why do you do this to yourself? I mean it's entertaining to us but at some point the psychic damage has got to add up
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Oct 30, 2023 23:36
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docbeard posted:Why do you do this to yourself? Eh, the entire reason I joined SA was bc of dnd's wide range of opinions (at that time). But I do find stuff on DU that I don't see elsewhere (bc I don't spend time on twitter et al.) and it's a good way to see what the current talking points & zeitgeists are (like LL's posts in dnd are). My own arguments & opinions become sharper when I can hone them against others'.
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SniperWoreConverse posted:Is having sex genocide No, Patrick, having sex is not genocide
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I also want to push back a little more on the framing of this as a "whether to vote for the lesser evil" which I actually think is disputable and does a grave disservice to the many policy achievements Dems have done that we've basically not seen since the 1940's or 1960's. It's not "New Deal" levels of transformative but that's maybe an excessively high standard before we allow ourselves to admit that maybe just maybe "Dems... Good?"
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Willa Rogers posted:I also like DU bc I come across stuff like this over there. do I gotta hand it to republicans on this one? I don't care why or how they do it as long as money going to Israel is disrupted.
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Andorra posted:I've been told that not voting/voting third party is a vote for the republicans. But I've also been told that not voting/voting third party is a vote for the democrats. Somebody help me with this, I'm bad at math Every time you vote, an uncountable amount of quantum realities are formed... and all of them lead to Biden losing Michigan and Trump becoming POTUS again. Nichael has issued a correction as of 00:17 on Oct 31, 2023 |
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quantum succ
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ahh, the democrats https://x.com/jaredemoskowitz/status/1719103456089129257?s=46
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Uncle Wemus posted:https://twitter.com/JRubinBlogger/status/1718972686595146010?s=20 *strangles every possibility in politics until the only options "more of the same" and "gently caress you, dad!!"* Why are large swaths of the country saying gently caress you, dad???
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I like how the ante has been upped to not just an election between two rapists WHO YOU MUST CHOOSE FROM to now genocidal rapists. Definitely a sign that Voting Matters.
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imagine a fairy whispering in your ear everytime you criticize Biden “Trump would be worse”
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The funny thing about this "well, I have no choice but to vote blue because republicans will put LGBT people in jail" is the implicit acceptance that the filibuster is just a convenient excuse. Yeah, the filibuster won't protect you from republicans but is the reason why democrats cant preemptively protect you.
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I think the point here is I'm broadly addressing the larger issue, which is how broadly speaking especially considering domestic politics but also broadly regarding foreign policy the Dems do a lot of good things; their policies regarding Israel with the current ongoing tragedy is at best incredibly disappointing but I think it says something that this is what you have to focus on to say that they aren't "good" for whatever that means and however its quantified. A nuanced and hollistic assessment should I think consider everything else, and also foreign policy regarding other issues, like the Kurds, or support for Ukraine, confronting China, and so on. If this is the only issue you care about and no other issue you do you, but I don't think its fair to dismiss that other people ultimately need to consider a wider range of policies and outcomes and when considering these other outcomes maybe they aren't actually bad; or maybe as I said earlier, sometimes politics is disappointingly messy and a lot of sucky awful things are going to happen, and there's a gap between ones ideals and ones reality.
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Uncle Wemus posted:I think the point here is I'm broadly addressing the larger issue, which is how broadly speaking especially considering domestic politics but also broadly regarding foreign policy the Dems do a lot of good things; their policies regarding Israel with the current ongoing tragedy is at best incredibly disappointing but I think it says something that this is what you have to focus on to say that they aren't "good" for whatever that means and however its quantified. A nuanced and hollistic assessment should I think consider everything else, and also foreign policy regarding other issues, like the Kurds, or support for Ukraine, confronting China, and so on. incredible the amount of terrible stuff that gets laundered and implemented by dismissing anything against it as childish, fantasy, or "not being realistic"
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wasn't the Afghanistan pull out mostly negotiated by Trump/his people and Biden just finished it? From that perspective Trump was -1 wars and Biden is +2 wars. If that trend continues a second Trump term would at least get us out of Yemen or Syria. Wars and genocides are a pretty decent single-issue voting redline.
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So the deportations have stopped under biden, right?
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Uncle Wemus posted:So the deportations have stopped under biden, right? don't let perfect be the enemy of good
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