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Call Your Grandma posted:Nah, the hockey player you're thinking of is Toronto Maple Leaf Legend Thomas Plikanec This is violence
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# ? Oct 31, 2023 00:28 |
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Another Bill posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjkmDhOeLj0 why would you do this
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# ? Oct 31, 2023 00:29 |
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Aphrodite posted:That's also from the players. That's not true. They care about comfort, looking cool, and not looking like weenies as well. Who cares about safety when your colleagues are going to call you mean names about wearing proper PPE.
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# ? Oct 31, 2023 00:43 |
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https://twitter.com/tsnsimmer/status/1719095499888726493?s=46&t=2hVb1vPytx9OUpdE0UPz6Q Re-thinking my stance on Dorion after learning he bullied Pierre McGuire
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# ? Oct 31, 2023 01:41 |
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Rejoice the Penguins are bad. Jarry is bad. They can't score and it would appear they are coached exceptionally poorly. So
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# ? Oct 31, 2023 02:55 |
rex rabidorum vires posted:Rejoice the Penguins are bad. Jarry is bad. They can't score and it would appear they are coached exceptionally poorly. So It's bizarre that on paper they are not terrible. They are paradoxically still one of the faster teams in the nhl for overall foot speed, they get lots of quality shots, they give up low quality chances They're honestly in that same position they've been the last time where they've fired the head coach and suddenly start looking like a contender out of nowhere the pieces are still there, the numbers aren't lying, but christ the coaches are ready to be put out to pasture
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# ? Oct 31, 2023 02:58 |
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Penguins fans have been doing the "this team is completely hosed" bit since like 2019. I will believe they are dogshit when they finish in lottery position.
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# ? Oct 31, 2023 02:59 |
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Jamwad Hilder posted:Penguins fans have been doing the "this team is completely hosed" bit since like 2019. I will believe they are dogshit when they finish in lottery position. I don't see a lottery finish unless they get frustrated and stop playing. Their underlying numbers continue to be strong. But they probably will finish like 5th in the Metro again lol
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# ? Oct 31, 2023 03:09 |
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Ginette Reno posted:I don't see a lottery finish unless they get frustrated and stop playing. I think that might already be happening. But they're so slow it's hard to tell. They are pretty bad on paper, if you take for granted that Letang is washed up (which he is). Unless you don't think speed is important. They are too slow to do anything effectively. Fire Sullivan if you wanna but that's not going to make them faster. Either way, it's T minus about 5 weeks before the "Karlsson is unhappy in Pittsburgh" articles start making the rounds. From sources outside Dejan and pals, that is. He's probably writing that piece right now. Good Soldier Svejk posted:They are paradoxically still one of the faster teams in the nhl for overall foot speed This is insane. Except for Karlsson they are the slowest team in the NHL except for maybe the Caps. Are you accidentally watching games from 3 years ago?? Eric the Mauve fucked around with this message at 03:15 on Oct 31, 2023 |
# ? Oct 31, 2023 03:12 |
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Rangers sweep their road trip despite the terrible reffing at the end of that game tonight.
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# ? Oct 31, 2023 03:14 |
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The Penguins have a real nice roster if you think it's still 2018. Similar problem for the Caps, I think. The Penguins stars seem to be a lot more effective as they age than Washington's, but I think long-term their outlook is a lot less optimistic. At least the Caps have multiple young-ish guys and some decent prospects. I don't know what Pittsburgh has when their window closes, and it's basically already closed.
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# ? Oct 31, 2023 03:16 |
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Matt Zerella posted:Rangers sweep their road trip despite the terrible reffing at the end of that game tonight. Canada stinks!
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# ? Oct 31, 2023 03:17 |
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The Pens have to stop playing Jarry. Get on the phone and make a trade for somebody's third goalie. I know Hellberg isn't playable in any circumstances and Nedeljkovic is going to be out a few weeks but Jarry has got to stop playing. It's ugly and getting uglier by the minute. And call all 12 teams on Jarry's whitelist and offer him around for free; unload him when Nedeljkovic gets back. He's finished in Pittsburgh and every game he plays just increases how much of the contract they're going to have to eat.Jamwad Hilder posted:The Penguins have a real nice roster if you think it's still 2018. Similar problem for the Caps, I think. The Penguins stars seem to be a lot more effective as they age than Washington's, but I think long-term their outlook is a lot less optimistic. At least the Caps have multiple young-ish guys and some decent prospects. I don't know what Pittsburgh has when their window closes, and it's basically already closed. Absolutely nothing. They won't even have their first round pick in 2025 (San Jose will have it--unprotected). They are going to be the worst team in the NHL for 5 solid years, beginning next year.
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# ? Oct 31, 2023 03:18 |
Eric the Mauve posted:This is insane. Except for Karlsson they are the slowest team in the NHL except for maybe the Caps. Are you accidentally watching games from 3 years ago?? The NHL has an advanced stat site for this stuff now called "EDGE" where you can compare skater/team speed, e.g. https://edge.nhl.com/en/compare/teams/20232024-regular-PIT-20232024-regular-VGK So the Penguins' overall NHL footspeed as an average player level is smack dab in the middle (dragged down by guys like Carter/Pettersson) but they actually are in up the third for "speed bursts over 20mph" so they're still skating fast, frequently Even Letang, for all the speed he's lost, is still a top skater in the league
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# ? Oct 31, 2023 03:25 |
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:So the Penguins' overall NHL footspeed as an average player level is smack dab in the middle (dragged down by guys like Carter/Pettersson) but they actually are in up the third for "speed bursts over 20mph" so they're still skating fast, frequently See to me that could easily read as "they're blowing coverages and missing assignments and they have to haul rear end a lot to try and catch up"
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# ? Oct 31, 2023 03:27 |
Jamwad Hilder posted:See to me that could easily read as "they're blowing coverages and missing assignments and they have to haul rear end a lot to try and catch up" I think it's bolstered a lot by Sullivan's "system" which is to have defensemen blasting through the neutral zone carrying the puck for breakouts and that is, admittedly, a loving mistake to still be running with a team that is middle of the road rather than one of the fastest in the league precisely because when they get their pockets picked they can't beat a kid going full bore the other way
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# ? Oct 31, 2023 03:28 |
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https://twitter.com/sportsnet/status/1719163614072803665?s=46&t=2hVb1vPytx9OUpdE0UPz6Q Worst hit I’ve seen in a while
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# ? Oct 31, 2023 03:29 |
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Yeah I may not be smart enough to understand the mechanics of why those stats don't correspond with reality, and being fully cognizant of the risk of just bein' a grandpa shaking my fist about the Eye Test... I still feel comfortable asserting the Penguins are slllloooooow. They lose the race to almost every puck. Teams carve them up in transition because they can't forecheck or get into the lanes in time. They can't consistently break the puck out via any method besides Karlsson skating it out himself because they can't get into open positions to receive passes quickly enough. The alternate explanation is that they're still plenty fast and are just constantly out of position because Mike Sullivan has forgotten how to coach. I guess we'll find out which one of us is right when Sullivan is fired.
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The Dirty Burger posted:https://twitter.com/sportsnet/status/1719163614072803665?s=46&t=2hVb1vPytx9OUpdE0UPz6Q Yeah he's gonna get 2-3 games for sure I bet
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# ? Oct 31, 2023 03:34 |
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Matt Zerella posted:Rangers sweep their road trip despite the terrible reffing at the end of that game tonight. They started looking real scrambly and confused jn coverage and not all on the same page as this trip went on but I’m chalking it up to still getting the system and less good practice time on a long trip
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# ? Oct 31, 2023 03:34 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8GCH5qf9IY&t=112s The best reaction is the dude on the right who is just fully in a dissociative state.
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# ? Oct 31, 2023 03:37 |
Eric the Mauve posted:Yeah I may not be smart enough to understand the mechanics of why those stats don't correspond with reality, and being fully cognizant of the risk of just bein' a grandpa shaking my fist about the Eye Test... I still feel comfortable asserting the Penguins are slllloooooow. They lose the race to almost every puck. Teams carve them up in transition because they can't forecheck or get into the lanes in time. They can't consistently break the puck out via any method besides Karlsson skating it out himself because they can't get into open positions to receive passes quickly enough. Problem is they're fast relative to the league but Sullivan's system requires them to be the fastest team in the league It's like how I play EA NHL (just constantly get breakaways and 2 on 1s by out skating the other team) Except they can't. They aren't. They haven't been in ages. Give them whatever system a slower team like Detroit or Dallas is running and they should perk right up
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# ? Oct 31, 2023 03:39 |
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I guess the next Penguins coach is someone named J.D. Forrest, apparently? Haha who am I kidding it's going to be Reirden, I'm sure he'll fix 'em right up
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deoju posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8GCH5qf9IY&t=112s The girl in the back just laughing all the way through. Fully jokerfied.
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# ? Oct 31, 2023 03:47 |
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Jamwad Hilder posted:The Penguins have a real nice roster if you think it's still 2018. Similar problem for the Caps, I think. The Penguins stars seem to be a lot more effective as they age than Washington's, but I think long-term their outlook is a lot less optimistic. At least the Caps have multiple young-ish guys and some decent prospects. I don't know what Pittsburgh has when their window closes, and it's basically already closed. Yager is having a pretty good d+1 season so far but outside of that there's pretty much nothing. I'm not super high on Pickering myself. And there's nothing in WBS right now
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# ? Oct 31, 2023 03:55 |
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Re: skating speed https://x.com/jhanhky/status/1716462704645308868?s=46&t=HQKtcRjDK4S81BLV4tbVnw EDGE is measuring top speed and bursts, but the vast majority of game situations don’t involve a player skating downhill with open ice in front of them. I think a lot of what people consider team speed has to do with puck movement over raw skating talent too, of course.
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# ? Oct 31, 2023 03:57 |
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Jamwad Hilder posted:Yeah he's gonna get 2-3 games for sure I bet Clifton got 2 for a less bad one, so at least 3 and probably 4.
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:The NHL has an advanced stat site for this stuff now called "EDGE" where you can compare skater/team speed, e.g. At first glance this seems pretty cool since I've been complaining about the NHL sharing next to nothing from shot/skating tracking. The top skating/shot speed seems a bit useless though, as does average. Bursts are more interesting because what you care about is speed when it matters (contested plays) not whether guys are hammering shots into empty nets or standing motionless behind the net while teammates complete a change. Sorta efb by Koopa.
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Aphrodite posted:Clifton got 2 for a less bad one, so at least 3 and probably 4. every hit to the head so far this year has been 2, so thats my guess, maybe 3 since it looks worse
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# ? Oct 31, 2023 03:59 |
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Levitate posted:They started looking real scrambly and confused jn coverage and not all on the same page as this trip went on but I’m chalking it up to still getting the system and less good practice time on a long trip Agreed but they find ways to win which is encouraging. Kakko should not take breakaways
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# ? Oct 31, 2023 04:16 |
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neoaxd posted:The girl in the back just laughing all the way through. Fully jokerfied. Never, ever, EVER gets old watching Leafs fans eat poo poo Lol'ing all the time
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# ? Oct 31, 2023 04:31 |
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I just saw the video of that Johnson incident, how the gently caress is that not an intentional kick? Also Chicago bad, let's stop talking about Bedard
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# ? Oct 31, 2023 06:08 |
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Matt Zerella posted:Rangers sweep their road trip despite the terrible reffing at the end of that game tonight. But also considering Saturday night you could also say they swept their road trip because of the terrible reffing
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# ? Oct 31, 2023 06:34 |
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Every night the Kraken pull ahead by 2+ goals early, and every night they relinquish the lead. I do not understand how this works. Tonight they pulled off the OT win at least against the Lightning. XG says the Pens are very good and the Kraken are perfectly average, for whatever that is worth to all of us doomposter fans.
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# ? Oct 31, 2023 07:07 |
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Jamwad Hilder posted:Bedard vs Cooley tonight, kinda surprised I haven't heard more about it. Usually the hockey media loves to hype up when two top rookies play each other for the first time. Well, goal for Bedard, Assist for Cooley, both still at 6 points. Don't know is Bedard is as big a deal with the Chicago PP, but Cooley has been rock solid on PP1 and has 5 of his 6 assists on it. Because goals are sexier than assists along with the previously built hype, Bedard is still the frontrunner, but I'd be surprised if there is much daylight between the two as far as points total goes at the end of the season. Also I just can't figure out the Coyotes yet this season. They seem to score a ton of goals some games, next to none other games. Same on the flip side, let in nearly no goals or ALL THE GOALS. Only 8 games in, so small sample size, just a little odd as they usually have one problem all the time rather than two problems, sometimes.
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# ? Oct 31, 2023 08:44 |
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Pens fans do this every year, they're the worst. Slow start and it's the apocalypse. They are not a lottery team! They are not as bad as San Jose and Chicago. They may very well continue to decline and not have a good year but calm down and give.it time. For any team: it's 9 games into the season. Chill.
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fawning deference posted:Pens fans they're the worst.
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# ? Oct 31, 2023 12:09 |
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https://twitter.com/unfortunatehky/status/1719174590994219496?s=46&t=2hVb1vPytx9OUpdE0UPz6Q The Pens having a 5-on-3 with 22 seconds left and losing in regulation fuckin rules, sick clapper from the point, Geno
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darkwolf220 posted:Also I just can't figure out the Coyotes yet this season. They seem to score a ton of goals some games, next to none other games. Same on the flip side, let in nearly no goals or ALL THE GOALS. Only 8 games in, so small sample size, just a little odd as they usually have one problem all the time rather than two problems, sometimes. they’ve been the team I’ve been watching most behind the Avalanche and they just look like a young team going through inconsistencies in structure on both ends. Tourigny seems like a really good coach but it’s just hard when you have young kids and new vets (Dumba, Zucker before he got hurt) working through it. the trade they made in the offseason for Durzi for a second looks like a major steal though
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The Dirty Burger posted:https://twitter.com/unfortunatehky/status/1719174590994219496?s=46&t=2hVb1vPytx9OUpdE0UPz6Q That was a great snipe at like 65 mph
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