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How much longer is Twitter going to last?
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Teratrain
Aug 23, 2007
Waiting for Godot

Clarste posted:

I thought that was working as intended.

It's intentional but I do enjoy that the intent is so poorly conveyed, people just assume the site's broken.

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Morrow
Oct 31, 2010
Twitter, and social media as a whole, is a modern tower of babel and Musk is doing the lord's work by smiting it.

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

You never learn anything
by doing it right.


Mercury_Storm posted:

Someone already posted this earlier but if it prevents anyone from creating a twitter account then godspeed:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/redirector/
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/redirector/ocgpenflpmgnfapjedencafcfakcekcd

Include pattern: https://twitter.com/*
Redirect to: https://nitter.net/$1
Pattern type: wildcard

Include pattern: https://x.com/*
Redirect to: https://nitter.net/$1
Pattern type: wildcard



This sets up an auto redirect to an offsite that works very well and shows replies correctly and videos, etc.

It'd be nice if this was put in the OP.

Nitrousoxide
May 30, 2011

do not buy a oneplus phone



Many nitter instances also have RSS feeds for the twitter accounts so you can follow them without Following them.

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

Nitrousoxide posted:

Many nitter instances also have RSS feeds for the twitter accounts so you can follow them without Following them.

The rss feature does not work very well in my experience, like it would cause my reader to issue an error about a third of the time.

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

You never learn anything
by doing it right.


discord is forcing the clyde bot into every server (including private servers!) to scrape chats and train AI

if you think that sucks, get your local discord modmins to drop this into a chat box to pre-emptively ban the bot from joining the server:

code:
/ban user:<@1081004946872352958> delete_messages:Don't Delete Any
e: for mysterious reasons this only works on desktop, not mobile

Kith fucked around with this message at 13:24 on Oct 24, 2023

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

Kith posted:

discord is forcing the clyde bot into every server (including private servers!) to scrape chats and train AI

if you think that sucks, get your local discord modmins to drop this into a chat box to pre-emptively ban the bot from joining the server:

code:
/ban user:<@1081004946872352958> delete_messages:Don't Delete Any
e: for mysterious reasons this only works on desktop, not mobile

If you're worried about Discord scraping private chats on your Discord server, then you should close down your Discord server and move your community to a different service entirely.

All Discord servers and Discord message are hosted on Discord's cloud services, and Discord doesn't use end-to-end encryption. This means that Discord can already access every single message that's ever been sent using their service. They don't need to use a chatbot to log and scrape your messages, and the chatbot almost certainly won't be doing any logging or scraping - they can already dump the entire contents of your entire server into their AI training set, and don't need to add anything to your server to do so.

Why are they adding Clyde to all servers, then? Because a bunch of people absolutely loving love that poo poo (I've already seen more than a few servers adding ChatGPT-powered chatbots themselves), and Discord is desperate for cheap-and-easy features that they might be able to sell premium access to without people feeling like they're being nickel-and-dimed.

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

You never learn anything
by doing it right.


All of the pushback I've seen against Clyde is because of some TOS verbiage that would allow it to to do the scraping and training, so I figured I'd share an out for interested parties. That's all.

OgNar
Oct 26, 2002

They tapdance not, neither do they fart
Came across this video from 4 months ago when the Youtube adblock notification was smalltime.
Which boils down to that while Youtube has the right to ask you to stop blocking ads, we also have the rights to non poo poo ads.
GIves a few options to block and do otherwise, also has some legal points of our rights to block.
Video description has a lot of links to legal aspects.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIHi9yH6UB0

OgNar fucked around with this message at 16:17 on Oct 25, 2023

OgNar
Oct 26, 2002

They tapdance not, neither do they fart
Congratulations on losing $25 billion in one year.

https://twitter.com/Phil_Lewis_/status/1719064195042324772


"On Monday, employees at X were awarded equity in the company at a valuation of $19 billion, or $45 per share, according to internal documents seen by The Verge. That price is a 55 percent discount to Musk’s original purchase price, per the documents, which note that “the fair market value per share is determined by the Board of Directors based on a number of factors in a manner that complies with applicable tax rules.” (Musk is X’s chair and has yet to create a formal board.)"

"Until now, employees at X have been working there without the knowledge of what the company is worth since Musk bought it. This stock award information finally answers that question, though it seems that Musk’s valuation may still be too generous; one of his big investors, Fidelity, thinks X is worth 65 percent less than when he bought it."

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal
Didn't he buy at $54 a share? How is $45 a share a decline of 55%?

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

haveblue posted:

Didn't he buy at $54 a share? How is $45 a share a decline of 55%?

less shares exist now (presumably, precisely to create this misimpression it hasn't gone down that much)

Triskelli
Sep 27, 2011

I AM A SKELETON
WITH VERY HIGH
STANDARDS


haveblue posted:

Didn't he buy at $54 a share? How is $45 a share a decline of 55%?

Less overall shares, each worth less.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



I feel like $19 billion is an extremely generous valuation

Morrow
Oct 31, 2010
There's two big flaws with this valuation:

1) Saying Twitter was valued at 44 billion a year ago is technically true, but inaccurate. Musk overpaid for it.

2) This is twitter's own valuation of itself, which obviously has some flaws because there's lots of ways to fluff it with brand and false assumptions. It's real value is probably closer to 13 billion (per fidelity).

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



Right, he was literally bidding against himself at that sale price. Nobody thought Twitter was really worth much to anyone in a sale because until right before Musk bought it, it had never been profitable.

Morrow
Oct 31, 2010
Eh, Twitter had a value somewhere in the 35-40 billion range. He just overdid slightly so he could do the funny weed nazi number.

Young Freud
Nov 26, 2006

Morrow posted:

There's two big flaws with this valuation:

1) Saying Twitter was valued at 44 billion a year ago is technically true, but inaccurate. Musk overpaid for it.

2) This is twitter's own valuation of itself, which obviously has some flaws because there's lots of ways to fluff it with brand and false assumptions. It's real value is probably closer to 13 billion (per fidelity).

It's probably lower than even the Fidelity valuation considering that was Twitter and not X. The brand loss alone is something like $4-10 billion dollars.

OneEightHundred
Feb 28, 2008

Soon, we will be unstoppable!
Giving it a valuation is also really weird in this context because the way the market sees it is like "if Musk sold the company today, what would it be worth?" And baked into that assumption is that post-sale management would almost certainly return to a "value-maximizing" mindset that would almost certainly involve kicking Musk out and reverting the company to its pre-Musk state as much as possible.

If you're talking about the value of a share though, then that's taking a big gamble on Musk actually doing that, and every day he doesn't do that is going further down road of it being a total write-off.

Anybody that buys a share of it right now is basically playing a game of chicken over when he sells the company, or assuming that he's a normal rational person that will start realizing that his decisions are bad and either start making good decisions or cut his losses and sell, and not pricing in the possibility that he's an insane egomaniac who will ride it to zero.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



To be clear, these are internal metrics and not actual share prices because the company is now private and not publicly traded

Musk doesn’t want to answer to anyone so he’s not only taken the company private but he also has no Board to answer to.

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

Morrow posted:

There's two big flaws with this valuation:

1) Saying Twitter was valued at 44 billion a year ago is technically true, but inaccurate. Musk overpaid for it.

2) This is twitter's own valuation of itself, which obviously has some flaws because there's lots of ways to fluff it with brand and false assumptions. It's real value is probably closer to 13 billion (per fidelity).

it was valued at $44b. by elon musk. he valued it enough to fork over $44b for it. now, once he came down from his bender he realized he'd made a terrible mistake, but he did value it at $44b.

and that's relevant to how funny it is that even elon can't manage to claim it's worth more than $19b

Sexual Aluminum
Jun 21, 2003

is made of candy
Soiled Meat

Mercury_Storm posted:

Someone already posted this earlier but if it prevents anyone from creating a twitter account then godspeed:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/redirector/
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/redirector/ocgpenflpmgnfapjedencafcfakcekcd

Include pattern: https://twitter.com/*
Redirect to: https://nitter.net/$1
Pattern type: wildcard

Include pattern: https://x.com/*
Redirect to: https://nitter.net/$1
Pattern type: wildcard



This sets up an auto redirect to an offsite that works very well and shows replies correctly and videos, etc.

I'm dumb and don't know how to use this. Just install the chrome extension? I can't see an option to add the redirect patterns

Mercury_Storm
Jun 12, 2003

*chomp chomp chomp*
Once you add the extension, find it in the extensions area which is usually in the upper right of the browser or in the main menu under extensions. Click on the Redirector icon then Edit Redirects.

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.
https://twitter.com/beetlemoses/status/1720465001326989639?s=20

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal
https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1721608444615311637

This was the only purpose I used my last remaining twitter account for so :rip:

sinky
Feb 22, 2011



Slippery Tilde
If I ran a social media platform I would want to maintain links to a userbase of 40 million people with a large disposable income.
But I am not the richest and smartest man alive, elon musk.

Dull Fork
Mar 22, 2009
Oooh this actually feels like a blow to Twitter. https://www.pcgamer.com/elon-musk-loses-another-one-sony-is-disabling-twitter-integration-on-playstation-consoles-next-week/

Weatherman
Jul 30, 2003

WARBLEKLONK

Literally two posts above you, dude.

EasyEW
Mar 8, 2006

I've got my father's great big six-shooter with me 'n' if anybody in this woods wants to start somethin' just let 'em--but they DASSN'T.
Elon's first AI model just rolled out and three guesses what dataset they're training it on.

Futurism posted:

Over the weekend, Elon Musk's startup xAI released its first AI model, called Grok, to a select group of users — and judging by screenshots posted by X-formerly-Twitter employees, the model will be a far more crass and dad joke-prone chatbot compared to more professional offerings like ChatGPT.

After X employee Christopher Stanley asked the bot when it's OK to listen to Christmas music, for instance, Grok promptly told him that anybody who complains should "shove a candy cane up their rear end and mind their own drat business."

In other words, it's quintessentially Elon Musk, who's always had a strong penchant for trolling behavior and calling his critics names.[...]

The AI is "designed to answer questions with a bit of wit and has a rebellious streak, so please don’t use it if you hate humor!" the company's website reads.

Worst of all, the AI "has real-time knowledge of the world via the 𝕏 platform," suggesting it'll lean on extremely skewed and fundamentally untrustworthy data. "It will also answer spicy questions that are rejected by most other AI systems."

X's vague documentation and the latest screenshots leave plenty of questions unanswered. For one, we still don't know if this kind of aggression will be part of the regular chatbot or if there'll be an opt-in "fun mode," as one recently shared clip suggests.

So...Grok? Does that mean QBot was already taken?

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



Allegedly some of the early users are ‘luminaries’ like Andrew Tate and Ian Miles Cheong. So literally the most insufferable people on Earth.

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes
"please don’t use it if you hate humor!" is exactly the kind of thing people say when they have the most dogshit sense of humor imaginable

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
'spicy questions' meaning the ones that get you excluded from any other place. Including I assume "the Jewish one"

EasyEW
Mar 8, 2006

I've got my father's great big six-shooter with me 'n' if anybody in this woods wants to start somethin' just let 'em--but they DASSN'T.
You know, spicy questions. Questions that fill you with energy and make your face feel numb.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1720643054065873124

Nervous
Jan 25, 2005

Why, hello, my little slice of pecan pie.

EasyEW posted:

You know, spicy questions. Questions that fill you with energy and make your face feel numb.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1720643054065873124

This is going to cause someone to snort a bleach/draino/baking soda mixture someday soon.

Rocko Bonaparte
Mar 12, 2002

Every day is Friday!
That makes Grandma's stories about her work at the napalm factory look charmingly quaint.

Weatherman
Jul 30, 2003

WARBLEKLONK

Angepain posted:

"please don’t use it if you hate humor!" is exactly the kind of thing people say when they have the most dogshit sense of humor imaginable

The goatse.cx xAI lawyer has informed us that we need a warning! So.. if you are under the age of 18 or find this humour offensive, please don't look at it. Thank you!

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal
It's that time of the month again- Twitter and Elon Musk (what's the difference any more) did something so far beyond the pale that major advertisers are jumping ship. This time it was approvingly retweeting blatant antisemitism and being unable to stop ads from accompanying it.

quote:

Yaccarino has been trying to bring advertisers back to the platform by claiming it’s safe for business. She’s also claimed that X (formerly Twitter) has been “demonstrating its absolute commitment to combating antisemitism on the platform” and that “antisemitism is evil and X will always work to fight it on our platform.”

But her boss last night endorsed the pernicious antisemitic conspiracy theory that Jewish people are supporting “hordes of minorities” who are “flooding” into the country to replace white people. That conspiracy theory was the same one that motivated the deadly 2018 Tree of Life synagogue shooting.

X has also reinstated numerous accounts of bigots and paid far-right extremists, apparently including a pro-Hitler and Holocaust denier account, as part of its creator ad revenue sharing program.

haveblue fucked around with this message at 20:14 on Nov 17, 2023

Mercury_Storm
Jun 12, 2003

*chomp chomp chomp*

quote:

As X owner Elon Musk continues his descent into white nationalist and antisemitic conspiracy theories, his social media platform has been placing ads for major brands like Apple, Bravo (NBCUniversal), IBM, Oracle, and Xfinity (Comcast) next to content that touts Adolf Hitler and his Nazi Party. The company’s placements come after CEO Linda Yaccarino claimed that brands are “protected from the risk of being next to” toxic posts on the platform.

Why the gently caress are Apple and IBM still advertising on xitter at all. I can kind of get Xfinity because it's hard to think of a more publicly hated company.

whydirt
Apr 18, 2001


Gaz Posting Brigade :c00lbert:
Xfinity just has affinity for X

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Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Mercury_Storm posted:

Why the gently caress are Apple and IBM still advertising on xitter at all. I can kind of get Xfinity because it's hard to think of a more publicly hated company.

because there are still twitter users that don't share our opinion of it

as long as you're getting a good price and not actively damaging your brand (which in this case has much more to do with the placement of the ads than with Elon tweets) why wouldn't you?

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