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What the hell are they doing adding a 14" Pro with 8GB of RAM? Even the mid-tier default config only has 8 GB of RAM... BOOOOOOOOO
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mllaneza posted:With the important difference that there isn't a $100 price premium for black. That was such a flex on their customers. OTOH the black one looked really good. I bought an original BlackBook when I started law school in 2006, and had some classmates that bought the white ones. The black was absolutely worth it just to avoid seeing the palm rests turn yellow.
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Oct 31, 2023 05:17
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the black MacBook made the white ones a little embarrassing; this will be the same again
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Oct 31, 2023 05:23
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The only thing that stings here for me is the AV1 support as I was irked my M2 didn’t have it when I got it. That said, bug the time that gets widely adopted and rolled out it’ll likely be time for an upgrade anyway. Raytracing is neat but I don’t piddle in modeling these days and god knows I don’t have time for big budget gaming, you know, on my Mac laptop.
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Oct 31, 2023 05:49
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Splinter posted:What the hell are they doing adding a 14" Pro with 8GB of RAM? Even the mid-tier default config only has 8 GB of RAM... BOOOOOOOOO It replaces the 13” MBP which also came with 8gb of ram
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Oct 31, 2023 06:39
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FCKGW posted:It replaces the 13” MBP which also came with 8gb of ram Sure that's the reasoning, but still...BOOOOOOOOO
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Oct 31, 2023 07:23
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I was a little surprised that the top-end GPU config for the M3 Max only went up to 40, since the M2 Max had gone up to 38 from M1 Max's 32, but still, the future M3 Ultra likely being a 32 core CPU 80 core GPU option is going to be really powerful.
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Oct 31, 2023 07:53
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I’m annoyed I bought a base 14 pro m2 in July. I went silver, because space gray is lame. But drat, I would have gone for the space black. Everything else about the m3 pro is a whatever upgrade from the m2 pro. But still. Annoying. Good thing I have a d brand skin in black. But still… grumbles.
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Oct 31, 2023 10:19
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American McGay posted:I don’t have to buy a new iMac yet. Thank you Tim. Brother you know a new iMac Pro is never happening at this point lol
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Oct 31, 2023 12:04
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God. I hate. Hate. How much I want a Blackbook Pro. My M1P-MBP is fine. It's fine. It handles my work and my VM and my work VM without breaking a sweat, and only Slack group calls make the fans audible because lol Electron. But what if I want to game with traced rays? And what if it could be black?! Why am I like this. The only saving grace is that I categorically cannot afford to buy a new Macbook Pro right now and so I am assured another year or two of suffering under the M1 Pro before upgrading. Truly a pitiful existence.
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Oct 31, 2023 13:15
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Fedule posted:God. I hate. Hate. How much I want a Blackbook Pro. My M1P-MBP is fine. It's fine. It handles my work and my VM and my work VM without breaking a sweat, and only Slack group calls make the fans audible because lol Electron. But what if I want to game with traced rays? And what if it could be black?! Why am I like this. The only saving grace is that I categorically cannot afford to buy a new Macbook Pro right now and so I am assured another year or two of suffering under the M1 Pro before upgrading. Truly a pitiful existence. My M1 MBP from three years ago is still chugging along and doing everything I need it to do. The AC+ expires next month, and I just spent money to get it physically fixed. And I still want that Space Black… 🤤
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Oct 31, 2023 13:21
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I would never buy a black MacBook. What if someone mistook it for a dell or a Thinkpad from a distance? The silver brushed aluminium is what separates us from the barbarians.
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Oct 31, 2023 13:27
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Fedule posted:The only saving grace is that I categorically cannot afford to buy a new Macbook Pro right now and so I am assured another year or two of suffering under the M1 Pro before upgrading. Truly a pitiful existence. You want pitiful, think of us who are still stuck with Intel lap heaters that require you to shut off every browser extension just so you can watch sporting events without jitters.. And not to pick nits, but I found it discouraging that they're trumpeting the arrival of hardware raytracing with a few scenes from what, Resident Evil Village and Myst? I thought they had some whiz bang Japanese developer with a knock your socks off app that showed bullets and giblets and arterial spray all lovingly ray traced for your amusement..
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Oct 31, 2023 14:08
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Well, guess I’ll wait until the Studio gets an update, because M3 looks like a genuinely compelling upgrade over M2. Does anyone suppose that’ll happen before Q2 of next year? Because I can’t imagine this will help sales of the Studio as it stands…
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Oct 31, 2023 14:31
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Twerk from Home posted:How do you get to 18GB though with evenly sized memory chips? I get that there's 12GB and 24GB dimms but that's 1.5x the "normal" 8GB and 16GB options. I figured it out, since the pro is a cut down max its 6GB chips in triple channel.  Skeezy posted:That's the power of M3 baby.
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Oct 31, 2023 14:40
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Binary Badger posted:You want pitiful, think of us who are still stuck with Intel lap heaters that require you to shut off every browser extension just so you can watch sporting events without jitters.. I legitimately think that this event was somewhat "rushed"; obviously it was planned given it's pre-recorded and all, but it seems like they really wanted to get the M3s into at least the MBPs to help boost sales, given I think sales have recently been disappointing. I have a feeling we won't probably see any true efforts on the mesh shading/ray tracing front until WWDC. The Lord Bude posted:I would never buy a black MacBook. What if someone mistook it for a dell or a Thinkpad from a distance? The silver brushed aluminium is what separates us from the barbarians. Pfft, some of the most legendary Apple laptops were black. Nobody is mistaking any type of Apple laptop for a crummy Dell or Thinkpad. Hasturtium posted:Well, guess I’ll wait until the Studio gets an update, because M3 looks like a genuinely compelling upgrade over M2. Does anyone suppose that’ll happen before Q2 of next year? Because I can’t imagine this will help sales of the Studio as it stands… I imagine that they'll do the Airs and mini in the March/April timeframe, and then do update the Studio and Mac Pro at WWDC.
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Oct 31, 2023 15:35
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What’s genuinely compelling about M3 vs M2? I didn’t watch the thing. Is it just shaders and ray tracing for games that don’t and will never exist?
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Oct 31, 2023 15:42
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American McGay posted:What’s genuinely compelling about M3 vs M2? I didn’t watch the thing. Is it just shaders and ray tracing for games that don’t and will never exist? Bro, do you know how smooth Genshin Impact is going to be?? And uh, Rise of the Tombraider??
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Oct 31, 2023 15:44
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American McGay posted:What’s genuinely compelling about M3 vs M2? I didn’t watch the thing. Is it just shaders and ray tracing for games that don’t and will never exist? Better battery life, it's on TSMCs cutting edge 3nm process and Apple has helpfully removed 2 of the fast cores from the M3 Pro compared to the M2 Pro to help battery life even more.
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Oct 31, 2023 15:49
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American McGay posted:What’s genuinely compelling about M3 vs M2? I didn’t watch the thing. Is it just shaders and ray tracing for games that don’t and will never exist? Not a lot which is why they focused the comparisons on the M1.
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Oct 31, 2023 15:49
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And it's got... wait for it... dynamic caching!
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Oct 31, 2023 15:50
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I'm mildly interested in seeing actual technical analyses of how well this GPU nonsense works in practice. It sounds very clever but also it sounds like one of those things Apple gets very excited about and then turns out to not be of use anywhere outside Final Cut.
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Oct 31, 2023 16:31
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American McGay posted:What’s genuinely compelling about M3 vs M2? I didn’t watch the thing. Is it just shaders and ray tracing for games that don’t and will never exist? Lies of P is on the App Store and that's all I need.
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Oct 31, 2023 16:41
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Okay so the M1 Pro was 8p2e, M2 Pro was 8p4e, and M3 Pro is 6p6e while the Max models have 4e. What's, uh, happening here?
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Oct 31, 2023 16:45
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American McGay posted:What’s genuinely compelling about M3 vs M2? I didn’t watch the thing. Is it just shaders and ray tracing for games that don’t and will never exist? I’ll have you know, sir, that open source games will go from running at a meaningless high three digit number of frames per second to a meaningless low four digit number! Number Go Up Seriously, the more I think about it for my use cases I don’t think it’d matter whether I chose an M2 or an M3 for a Studio. I’ll probably make do with my Air until next WWDC…
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Oct 31, 2023 17:00
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American McGay posted:What’s genuinely compelling about M3 vs M2? I didn’t watch the thing. Is it just shaders and ray tracing for games that don’t and will never exist? Energy and heat efficiency, since the m2 is just an overclocked m1 with some minor architecture changes to address a graphics bottleneck
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Oct 31, 2023 17:10
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Fedule posted:Okay so the M1 Pro was 8p2e, M2 Pro was 8p4e, and M3 Pro is 6p6e while the Max models have 4e. What's, uh, happening here? Maybe efficiency cores are now getting more efficient than prev generations so overall performance and battery life improves with more efficiency cores?
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Oct 31, 2023 17:14
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Just got done watching this, and it explains a fair bit of why this M3 lineup is a bit weird.
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Oct 31, 2023 17:48
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Who likes the Magic Mouse? Really really likes it? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=453jnIlu_5s
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DeusIgnis posted:Just got done watching this, and it explains a fair bit of why this M3 lineup is a bit weird. So now Apple instead of being beholden to Intel is now beholden to TSMC. Apple fabs when?
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Oct 31, 2023 18:36
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Shaocaholica posted:So now Apple instead of being beholden to Intel is now beholden to TSMC. Apple fabs when? lol literally never apple will use whoever gives them the best terms with sufficiently good technology. if say this new canon lithography endeavour works out, they'd happily switch. for now tsmc does the job
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Oct 31, 2023 20:02
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I haven't crunched the numbers but its like when you sell enough roast chickens (Costco), spinning up your own chicken farms start making a lot more sense. Oh just checked Apple accounts for 25% of TSMC business.
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Oct 31, 2023 20:05
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Apple dual sourced chips from samsung and tsmc on the 6s and they get displays from multiple manufacturers. It there was another fab as good as tsmc they would use them too.
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Binary Badger posted:And not to pick nits, but I found it discouraging that they're trumpeting the arrival of hardware raytracing with a few scenes from what, Resident Evil Village and Myst? I thought they had some whiz bang Japanese developer with a knock your socks off app that showed bullets and giblets and arterial spray all lovingly ray traced for your amusement.. Seems the Japanese developer stuff was just rumor mill bullshit trying to speculate about why they chose to run the event at a different time of day than the past normal. I actually thought Myst was a neat Mac specific callback. The original game was built in HyperCard, and its graphics were rendered on Mac Quadras using a software raytracer. Kinda cool that what used to take on the order of minutes or hours per frame is now realtime.
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Oct 31, 2023 22:45
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The keynote had a "the new chips are far better than the several year old intel mac" message that felt a bit desperate. Also it's hard to justify replacing a 27" 5k intel imac with an apple silicon 24", it feels a far cheaper product in hand.
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Oct 31, 2023 22:54
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SlowBloke posted:The keynote had a "the new chips are far better than the several year old intel mac" message that felt a bit desperate. Also it's hard to justify replacing a 27" 5k intel imac with an apple silicon 24", it feels a far cheaper product in hand. I don't know why they don't just call out a current year model of laptop from the competing brands. Nothing's *reeeally* stopping them. I mean Besides being compared toa real gpu at the same price bracket, that is.
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Oct 31, 2023 23:18
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I want my 12.9 oled m3 iPad already
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MarcusSA posted:I want my 12.9 oled m3 iPad already
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Oct 31, 2023 23:32
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I wonder if the Mini will get the M3 when the Air does, I wanna replace my 2018 Mini with an M3 Pro one Edit: Mac Mini not ipad mini!
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