The US will lose WW3

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Zadok Allen: Oct 9, 2023

Looks like the reason behind the beginning of WW3 has been discovered.

https://x.com/richimedhurst/status/1717699444362092839?s=20

# ? Oct 31, 2023 06:19

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# ? May 23, 2024 15:36

Hubbert: Mar 25, 2007; At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

Zadok Allen posted:

Looks like the reason behind the beginning of WW3 has been discovered.

https://x.com/richimedhurst/status/1717699444362092839?s=20

wow crazy how it boils down to energy :thunk:

# ? Oct 31, 2023 06:29

Cookie Cutter: Nov 29, 2020; Is there something else that's bothering you Mr. President?

Another thing about having to polish your boots and beret brass daily and have it become second nature to spot loose threads on your pal's collar from 10 feet away is that it helps you get you really diligent and safe when handling, cleaning and firing a rifle.

# ? Oct 31, 2023 06:53

Trabisnikof: Dec 24, 2005

Zadok Allen posted:

Looks like the reason behind the beginning of WW3 has been discovered.

https://x.com/richimedhurst/status/1717699444362092839?s=20

that honestly doesn�t make too much sense for US motivations, the US already is a natural gas exporter and wouldn�t desire to have competing fields operating so close to big customers in Europe. restricted supply means massive profits. The LNG people have a strong position in the Biden admin and developing Gaza�s gas fields would hurt them.

US involvement is more directly due to Israeli power in American politics & a MIC that is too embarrassed to admit we�ve transitioned to a Military in Being so has to pretend to be able to fight a regional war we can�t anymore.

# ? Oct 31, 2023 07:02

The Oldest Man: Jul 28, 2003

Trabisnikof posted:

that honestly doesn�t make too much sense for US motivations, the US already is a natural gas exporter and wouldn�t desire to have competing fields operating so close to big customers in Europe. restricted supply means massive profits. The LNG people have a strong position in the Biden admin and developing Gaza�s gas fields would hurt them.

US involvement is more directly due to Israeli power in American politics & a MIC that is too embarrassed to admit we�ve transitioned to a Military in Being so has to pretend to be able to fight a regional war we can�t anymore.

"The US is doing it for profit" is too rational; that's 20 years ago poo poo. That's Dick Cheney poo poo. The US government today is a rabid animal, it doesn't know why it kills anymore, it just does.

# ? Oct 31, 2023 07:04

Trabisnikof: Dec 24, 2005

The Oldest Man posted:

"The US is doing it for profit" is too rational; that's 20 years ago poo poo. That's Dick Cheney poo poo. The US government today is a rabid animal, it doesn't know why it kills anymore, it just does.

# ? Oct 31, 2023 07:06

Zadok Allen: Oct 9, 2023

The Oldest Man posted:

"The US is doing it for profit" is too rational; that's 20 years ago poo poo. That's Dick Cheney poo poo. The US government today is a rabid animal, it doesn't know why it kills anymore, it just does.

It also shows how the U.S. is in such a state of terminal decline politically over the world�s resources that they�re literally � and so publicly now, which is new � supporting explicit genocide on a level not seen since the mid-20th century fascist movements in a desperate bid to maintain the supremacy of the dollar. Chris Hedges� big thing is that declining / collapsing empires always resort to suicidal military adventures in order to maintain power without realizing how it only accelerates the very thing they�re trying to prevent.

And welp, here we are boys! :munch:

# ? Oct 31, 2023 07:37

crepeface: Nov 5, 2004; r*p*f*c*

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Not only are our leading corporations wildly corrupt, they're hopelessly incompetent. Our government been incompetent since Katrina, now it's becoming destructive. Listen to this: Boeing had its 17th successive losing quarter, $1.2 billion.

McDonnell Douglas, Boeing's owner, produced 17 F-35s this year. Seventeen aircraft that cost three times more and go half the distance carrying one-fourth the payload of China's J20.

Dual cockpit J20s have copilots who control the drones that precede the J20. The drones' missiles outrange the F-35's missiles by 50%. Thanks to those drones, our pilots may never catch sight of a J-20 but, even if they did, the J20 supercruises comfortably and the F-35 isn't.

A trillion dollar aircraft. Our front-row fighter through 2060. We're becoming a goddam laughing stock.

https://twitter.com/GodfreeTrh/status/1719191890040586637?s=20

https://herecomeschina.substack.com/p/all-your-west-pacific-belong-china

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Last year, for example, a US carrier docked at Darwin Port had zero chance of surviving a volley of Chinese DF-26D anti-ship ballistic missiles and a 50-50 chance underway, in open ocean. Its chances are now zero and zero. A new surveillance satellite with onboard AI recognizes and identifies individual warships, tracks them through sleet and storm, and transmits better-than-human information to HQ in real time 24x7. Time on target is infinite, and PLAN screen-shares directly with fire-control, eliminating delays and miscommunication.

The same warships are also tracked by a million sailors in China�s fishing fleets � all directly connected to PLAN Shore Control and some towing Sonar arrays � by gigantic drones that spend months in the stratosphere, by the PLAN�s semi-undetectable subs, by a network of passive receivers on the ocean floor.

What admiral would sail a $30 billion battle fleet and 7,000 crew in range of such weapons when his air wing is still a thousand miles beyond operational range?

this guy is always super pro-china and tech. idk how accurate his stuff is

# ? Oct 31, 2023 09:02

crepeface: Nov 5, 2004; r*p*f*c*

Trabisnikof posted:

that honestly doesn�t make too much sense for US motivations, the US already is a natural gas exporter and wouldn�t desire to have competing fields operating so close to big customers in Europe. restricted supply means massive profits. The LNG people have a strong position in the Biden admin and developing Gaza�s gas fields would hurt them.

US involvement is more directly due to Israeli power in American politics & a MIC that is too embarrassed to admit we�ve transitioned to a Military in Being so has to pretend to be able to fight a regional war we can�t anymore.

it does kinda look like the IMEC that biden announced at the g20

also: US President Joe Biden has said that he is convinced that one of the reasons why Hamas launched a terrorist attack on Israel was because of the recent announcement during the G-20 Summit in New Delhi on the ambitious India-Middle East-Europe Economic Corridor that integrates the entire region with a network of railroad.

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Biden told reporters at a joint news conference with the visiting Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese that his analysis is based on his instinct and does not have any proof for this.

�I'm convinced one of the reasons Hamas attacked when they did, and I have no proof of this, just my instinct tells me, is because of the progress we were making towards regional integration for Israel, and regional integration overall. We can't leave that work behind,� Biden said.

# ? Oct 31, 2023 09:07

Orange Devil: Oct 1, 2010; Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

Frosted Flake posted:

All fair points. You have to remember than infantry of the line started as numbered regiments. It was through that mathematical equation that they earned their names and fame, often getting mulched in the process, like 28th Foot.

Who earned the battle honour Egypt,

On 21 March, during the Battle of Alexandria, French cavalry broke through the British lines, formed up behind the regiment, and began to charge. With the men still heavily engaged to their front, the order was given for the rear rank to turn about, and standing thus in two ranks back to back, the regiment held the line. To commemorate this action, the regiment began wearing a badge on the back as well as the front of the headdress, a unique distinction in the British Army that was officially sanctioned in 1830.

Various other numbered battalions were mulched in the Peninsula and India, and in one of the (many) Victorian army reforms, they were combined to form the Glosters, who inherited their battle honours, rear badge and a new cap badge that similarly called back to Egypt.

The regiment was then mulched at Talana Hill and Ladysmith, losing the entire 1st Battalion at Ladysmith.

In 1914, 1st Battalion was almost wiped out again at First Ypres, suffered on the Somme, and was badly bloodied in the Kaiser's Battle of 1918. 2nd Battalion was mulched at Second Ypres in 1915, but was assigned to a quiet sector thereafter to the end of the war.

I won't get into all the TA and New Army battalions, but that ties into my point about how regiments can expand rapidly when the time comes.

In the Second World War, the Regular Battalions of the Glosters were all but destroyed early in the war, in the retreats from France and Burma. They then reentered the war at Gold Beach and the Admin Box in 1944, and won more honours.

In Korea, the Glosters fought their last stand at the Imjin River.

So, what's the through line? A numbered regiment, the 28th, became known for a galant stand at the Battle of the Sphinx and earned a name for itself. The battalions that bore the name thereafter, though that connection, made some of the most heroic last stands in British history: Quatre Bras, Ladysmith, Mons, First and Second Ypres, Menin Road, Defence of Escaut, Taukyan, and Imjin.

I would suggest that knowing that they belonged to the Glorious Glosters, rather than just a numbered infantry regiment, inspired these later acts.

If the British Army is going to be reduced to a handful of Battalions, shouldn't they be aspire to live up to something?

This reminds me how the people honoured in Italian churches are artists, inventors and clergy, whereas British churches are wall to wall soldiers and regiments and also some clergy.

My point is that all this poo poo is a product of empire, of a thoroughly militarized society, a mechanism for getting the lower classes to lay down their lives for their oppressors. gently caress these British institutions, gently caress their traditions and gently caress what they stand for.

# ? Oct 31, 2023 09:17

Cerebral Bore: Apr 21, 2010; Fun Shoe

bedpan posted:

one guardsman who discounted his rear end

did chuck tingle release a new novel while i wasn't looking?

# ? Oct 31, 2023 09:47

Tzen: Sep 11, 2001

The Oldest Man posted:

"The US is doing it for profit" is too rational; that's 20 years ago poo poo. That's Dick Cheney poo poo. The US government today is a rabid animal, it doesn't know why it kills anymore, it just does.

# ? Oct 31, 2023 10:17

Frosted Flake: Sep 13, 2011; Semper Shitpost Ubique

Check the scoreboard

# ? Oct 31, 2023 10:18

Tzen: Sep 11, 2001

reminded of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4hgDIPMS_A

# ? Oct 31, 2023 10:19

gradenko_2000: Oct 5, 2010; HELL SERPENT; Lipstick Apathy

Tzen posted:

reminded of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4hgDIPMS_A

reminded me of this re. Assange

Liz Frankzac posted:

Who�s gonna prosecute you? The loving government that you parrot the lines of. The government that you continue to let have advanced notice of the story that you�re saying in case there�s something that they wouldn�t like you to publish. The anonymous intelligence sources you continue to give cover to. The bullshit partisan hackery you spit out night after night after night. what state secrets are you revealing? What actual journalistic work are you doing. This is why we call journalists scum. Like Motherfucker YOU are the mouthpiece of the state. The government needs you to sell their lies. You are the one who obfuscates power. You aren�t expendable. You are the one who is necessary. You aren�t going anywhere you loving tool.

And these assholes, the ones who guarantee their primetime tv slot by molding their views and their voice to what the networks and their corporate overlords and the bankers and the US government and all it's spooky apparatchiks want you to hear. These are not the people who will be persecuted. No, they get promotions. They get awards. They get celebrated. They get retweeted and liked and byline and byline and byline. They climb the ranks and they shape the poo poo that is now permanently lodged in your loving brain that they pathetically sell to you as �the news� and you�ve pathetically convinced yourself is the truth. No, the people who get persecuted are anyone who dares question the United States war machine, who dares reveal any of the coups, the assassinations, the innerworkings of the security apparatus, the well-funded networks of loving so called democratic political power. The abuse that millions suffer at the hands of the US military and all the paid off NGO�s, the corporations, the war lords, the cartels, the sexual abuse, the rape, the murder, the towns that we�ve bombed to oblivion, the countries that we sell off to the highest bidder and all the governments that we demolish, like what we do every day, every day, every day. Those are the people who will be prosecuted. People like Chris Hayes have loving secured their spot, they�re not going to be attacked. He is not going to be arrested. And now they sit back and the loving fake concern for Assange like �oh what this means for the free press, oh no what this means�. No this has nothing to do with Assange, or WikiLeaks or anything WikiLeaks has revealed. This is about the media�s precious industry, which is dying, ironically because of the very corporations that they continue to cover for. They are eating the newsrooms alive.

And you know what, the public is right to loving despise you. They are right to despise you for the obvious bootlicking and all your brazen careerism for years of covering up the lies, and all the obfuscation of how real power operates in this country. Like selling the wars, and the PR campaigns of the State Department, and running loving interference for the bankers, and all the politician�s bought off by the bankers, who stole all the jobs, and all the homes, and all the loving futures out from under the world. How many bloggers, who are now call themselves �aspiring journalists� or I guess what you�d now call �professional opinion-havers�, how many out there look up to the Chris Hayes� of the world and their career arc. How many stare longingly at the loving New York Times op-ed page, at the shiny bylines and the prestige publishers, at the loving social power that comes with the fawning adulation of their peers, jealous of their little positions in the clout hierarchy of the media machine. How many of these content producers, editors, self-appointed political taste makers, take-havers, tweeters and guess what? yes loving podcasters, how many of them just want these precious loving spots. What would they do, what do you think they would do, what do you think they would they sell you, to get one of those spots. Do they even loving realize when they do it. But how many of them look to the man, how many will even loving publicly support the man who is literally, currently being tortured, who will die of starvation or maybe madness or maybe he�ll just simply be kicked in the loving skull in the damp basement of a super max prison in the middle of loving nowhere because he dared to temporarily embarrass our highest ranking officials and mildly inconvenience the functionaries of the American empire�s unstoppable machine.

Who are you going to loving look to.

# ? Oct 31, 2023 10:25

crepeface: Nov 5, 2004; r*p*f*c*

gradenko_2000 posted:

reminded me of this re. Assange

i actually bookmarked this rant but it's been deleted off youtube now >:

time stamped pocket casts link: https://pca.st/episode/67e9da7b-fd7a-46b8-adda-623bd3e5cfa7?t=5850

crepeface has issued a correction as of 11:13 on Oct 31, 2023

# ? Oct 31, 2023 10:57

Weka: May 5, 2019; Can't post for 12 hours!

Zadok Allen posted:

supporting explicit genocide on a level not seen since the mid-20th century fascist movements

Lol
For example
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangladesh_genocide

# ? Oct 31, 2023 11:15

mawarannahr: May 21, 2019

i think these things are related in kind of an overarching and sometimes touching way lol

WA ferries reach low point as one more boat breaks down

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Washington�s ferry system hit a low point over the weekend as yet another boat had to be taken out of service, leaving the fleet with just 14 working ships out of 21 owned by the state.

As Monday arrived, agency officials continued their struggle to piece together workable schedules on every route, a challenge they�ll likely wrestle with through the week and beyond.

The Chimacum ferry, among Washington State Ferries� newer boats, was docked Saturday morning after a rod broke in one of its engines, said spokesperson Ian Sterling. The Chimacum was the sole vessel sailing between Seattle and Bremerton due to previous service cuts; when it broke down Saturday, the route briefly had no service between the two cities.

To accommodate, WSF moved the Issaquah off the Kingston/Edmonds crossing, reducing that passage to a single boat and restoring crossings to Bremerton on Saturday afternoon.

The damage to the Chimacum is significant enough that the Kingston/Edmonds route will be on reduced service until further notice.

Losing the Chimacum further reduces a deeply strained system. The state�s stable of 21 boats is already considered the minimum; 26 is the goal, which would allow ferries to receive regular and emergency maintenance without reducing service. But a cascade of mechanical failures, coupled with critical maintenance that can�t be deferred and extremely limited dry dock space, means a third of the country�s largest ferry system is out of service.

�I can�t remember ever seeing it this low,� Sterling said.

The Chimacum�s repair timeline is �weeks, not days,� Sterling said. It joins the Walla Walla, which was pulled for emergency propeller repairs and is now likely to be out for longer than expected after crews found metal fatigue in a separate propeller. It also joins the Wenatchee, which is being converted to hybrid-electric power and receiving its midlife upgrades; the Puyallup, which is undergoing critical maintenance that can no longer be deferred; and the Tilikum, a 65-year-old boat due for retirement this year that�s costing $20 million a year to keep in service, among others.

It was a Pyrrhic victory for the ferries that every route had at least some service come Monday morning. The threat of additional breakdowns and crew shortages loom over the ferry system every day.

Compounding the aging fleet is limited dry dock space in Puget Sound. The shipbuilder Vigor has the most slots in its Harbor Island yard, but the company also services military ships. Fixing the Walla Walla is not expected to be complicated, but since it left Vigor�s dry dock, it must wait until there�s an opening to return, Sterling said.

That limited space also means skipping scheduled maintenance is usually not an option.

�If you pass that up, there�s a good chance you�re not getting back in for months,� Sterling said. With the age of these boats, deferring maintenance is likely to lead to worse problems.

There are no shortcuts to fixing the fleet. Simply, the state needs more boats. Just nine of the 21 are in good shape, although the Chimacum was built in 2017, proof that anything can happen to these ferries.

�We need to build boats,� Sterling said. �At the end of the day, that�s the story here.�

The state has set a long-term, $4 billion goal of adding 16 new boats, mostly electric, to the fleet by 2040, while retiring many of those currently in use.

The state Legislature has so far budgeted roughly $1 billion for five new boats, but the timeline for their construction has been pushed back to late 2027. Washington�s longtime partnership with Vigor to build new ferries fell apart in 2022 when the two sides couldn�t agree on liability or price. Vigor�s price, initially estimated to be around $200 million each, could go higher.

Changes in state rules this year mean out-of-state builders can bid on the contracts. The best-case scenario for agency officials and lawmakers is multiple companies simultaneously building boats. Washington State Department of Transportation staff hope to have a builder or builders selected by summer 2024. Meanwhile, WSDOT is looking for more help from the state.

Lawmakers will only pass a supplemental budget in the 2024 legislative session when agencies are generally expected to seek minor or technical changes. But WSF ignored those guidelines, asking for an additional $59 million from the Legislature.

�We didn�t follow the rules,� head of WSF, Patty Rubstello, told staff this month. �We didn�t follow those guidelines. We went big.�

That money would go toward finishing the conversion of the state�s three largest boats to hybrid-electric; the contract to do so, awarded to Vigor this year, came in $30 million higher than expected.

It would also go toward hiring and promoting crew. Crew shortages have caused massive service disruptions as well. In recent months, the ferry system has seen large numbers of workers calling out sick, Sterling said, as the flu, COVID and colds all spread and coming to work sick has become less acceptable.

But, for now, vessel shortages are so severe that crew shortages are rendered moot, Sterling said.

e: Vigor has a ton of military contracts, eg
https://vigor.net/projects/msvl (more at https://vigor.net/services and https://vigor.net/projects)

quote:

The U.S. Army awarded Vigor the contract to build its new generation landing craft in the fall of 2017. The design for the MSV(L) was developed in partnership with BMT following a detailed study of the Army's unique needs and the available design options fulfill those needs. It dramatically improves the current LCM-8 and provides the optimal combination of performance, operational flexibility and life-cycle cost while maintaining the reliability and versatility of the Army�s current craft. The contract calls for one prototype vessel, four vessels under low rate production, and up to thirty two additional vessels over ten years for use by Army Mariners in even the most difficult environments.

The landing craft�s tribow monohull is an innovative yet deceptively simple design that provides superior maneuverability and stability in high sea states, through the littorals and within inland waterways in support of land-based operations. MSV(L) is a natural evolution of the BMT Caimen-90�, leveraging more than a decade of extensively-tested performance and adapted by the Vigor-BMT team to meet U.S. Army requirements.

mawarannahr has issued a correction as of 12:08 on Oct 31, 2023

# ? Oct 31, 2023 12:04

Palladium: May 8, 2012; Very Good
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lmao $200M each for 110m ferries, when 400m 23000 TEU cargo ships built in east asia are only ~$153M each in 2018

# ? Oct 31, 2023 12:13

Orange Devil: Oct 1, 2010; Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

Frosted Flake posted:

Check the scoreboard

Yes, empire very bad.

# ? Oct 31, 2023 12:16

frozenphil: Mar 13, 2003; YOU CANNOT MAKE A MISTAKE SO BIG THAT 80 GRIT CAN'T FIX IT!

Palladium posted:

lmao $200M each for 110m ferries, when 400m 23000 TEU cargo ships built in east asia are only ~$153M each in 2018

Don't worry, that same company's new Navy ship only holds 1 tank. lmao

# ? Oct 31, 2023 12:32

Cookie Cutter: Nov 29, 2020; Is there something else that's bothering you Mr. President?

crepeface posted:

i actually bookmarked this rant but it's been deleted off youtube now >:

time stamped pocket casts link: https://pca.st/episode/67e9da7b-fd7a-46b8-adda-623bd3e5cfa7?t=5850

That's great, I'm saving that... do you know the episode/timestamp of the kinda similar rant about Hillary, its quite an old one, I remember when I heard that I could feel Liz's rage dripping from the speaker

# ? Oct 31, 2023 13:00

crepeface: Nov 5, 2004; r*p*f*c*

Cookie Cutter posted:

That's great, I'm saving that... do you know the episode/timestamp of the kinda similar rant about Hillary, its quite an old one, I remember when I heard that I could feel Liz's rage dripping from the speaker

dunno about hilary but i found her biden rant

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xthAJyF-pA

# ? Oct 31, 2023 13:12

stephenthinkpad: Jan 2, 2020

crepeface posted:

it does kinda look like the IMEC that biden announced at the g20

also: US President Joe Biden has said that he is convinced that one of the reasons why Hamas launched a terrorist attack on Israel was because of the recent announcement during the G-20 Summit in New Delhi on the ambitious India-Middle East-Europe Economic Corridor that integrates the entire region with a network of railroad.

It's not like the US didn't try to sabotage the Chinese BRI projects through Pakistani Balochi separatists. It's just that the historical bad blood the US has planted in the ME is 1000x times worse than any large country, you can just use a single match to ignite it.

To accuse China behind it is laughable, the cost of lighting a match in Gaza is so small there are at least 10 external actors who can afford it. And if China knew about the Hamas war, they wouldn't reached a tech sanction deal with US before the war, they would have delayed it and asked for better prize.

# ? Oct 31, 2023 13:50

Raskolnikov38: Mar 3, 2007; We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Tzen posted:

reminded of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4hgDIPMS_A

ewww he listens to muse

# ? Oct 31, 2023 14:12

Raskolnikov38: Mar 3, 2007; We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

frozenphil posted:

Don't worry, that same company's new Navy ship only holds 1 tank. lmao

�. this is the wooden mock-up right

right??

# ? Oct 31, 2023 14:14

crepeface: Nov 5, 2004; r*p*f*c*

stephenthinkpad posted:

It's not like the US didn't try to sabotage the Chinese BRI projects through Pakistani Balochi separatists. It's just that the historical bad blood the US has planted in the ME is 1000x times worse than any large country, you can just use a single match to ignite it.

To accuse China behind it is laughable, the cost of lighting a match in Gaza is so small there are at least 10 external actors who can afford it. And if China knew about the Hamas war, they wouldn't reached a tech sanction deal with US before the war, they would have delayed it and asked for better prize.

i don't think biden's explicitly blaming china for hamas.

china = bad = BRI
america = good = IMEC = anti-BRI

hamas = bad = anti-IMEC

is probably the limit of his thinking

# ? Oct 31, 2023 14:19

Frosted Flake: Sep 13, 2011; Semper Shitpost Ubique

Raskolnikov38 posted:

�. this is the wooden mock-up right

right??

If you think about the landing craft in WW2, there's nothing wrong with using wooden construction.

It's just that rather than being inexpensive and mass produced, we would still end up with bespoke wooden craft produced in tiny numbers, at astronomical cost, that somehow rusted in water.

# ? Oct 31, 2023 14:48

Centrist Committee: Aug 6, 2019

crepeface posted:

it does kinda look like the IMEC that biden announced at the g20

also: US President Joe Biden has said that he is convinced that one of the reasons why Hamas launched a terrorist attack on Israel was because of the recent announcement during the G-20 Summit in New Delhi on the ambitious India-Middle East-Europe Economic Corridor that integrates the entire region with a network of railroad.

drat those thousand mile overseas rail corridors are gonna be amazing feats of engineering. global build back better, im sorry I doubted you

# ? Oct 31, 2023 16:31

Pf. Hikikomoriarty: Feb 15, 2003; RO YNSHO; Slippery Tilde

Slavvy posted:

This is also why certain Ukrainian units have awfully German looking names

Psychology is a tangible and powerful force in war, armies have understood this for centuries, only recently have the spreadsheet understanders decided it's not a real thing

lots of spreadsheet jockeys are high on psyop bullshit

# ? Oct 31, 2023 19:21

frozenphil: Mar 13, 2003; YOU CANNOT MAKE A MISTAKE SO BIG THAT 80 GRIT CAN'T FIX IT!

Raskolnikov38 posted:

�. this is the wooden mock-up right

right??

It is the prototype, but even their badass renders look silly with their artisanal craft delivery.

# ? Oct 31, 2023 19:41

Slavvy: Dec 11, 2012

Those worked great in command & conquer

# ? Oct 31, 2023 19:47

Delta-Wye: Sep 29, 2005

if you assume that the army needs to land a fixed number of tanks to defeat soviet defenses and build a beachhead, it makes obvious sense that each landing craft should carry one tank

if they carried two tanks each, the army would only need half as many landing craft. jerked off by the invisible hand

# ? Oct 31, 2023 20:07

Palladium: May 8, 2012; Very Good
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frozenphil posted:

It is the prototype, but even their badass renders look silly with their artisanal craft delivery.

this is so stupid on so many levels

# ? Oct 31, 2023 20:27

Centrist Committee: Aug 6, 2019

Palladium posted:

this is so stupid on so many levels

yeah it owns

# ? Oct 31, 2023 20:30

gradenko_2000: Oct 5, 2010; HELL SERPENT; Lipstick Apathy

it's a Landing Ship, Tank

not Landing Ship, Tanks

# ? Oct 31, 2023 20:35

Turtle Sandbox: Dec 31, 2007; by Fluffdaddy

Tempora Mutantur posted:

doesn't israel actually have the lead in US warships scrapped during ME operations?

accidents happen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident

would be a shame if they confused a US carrier for a Russian one; who can tell all these latin-alphabet-using red white and blue fucks apart!