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Guavanaut posted:Found it! Thank you, that was driving me mad
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keep punching joe posted:Palestinians will be given a means tested voucher for online training so that they can develop their own app and grow their economy. Survival Wallets
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keep punching joe posted:Palestinians will be given a means tested voucher for online training so that they can develop their own app and grow their economy. Hadley Freeman was sincerely arguing in her Times column yesterday that it's racist towards Palestinians to call for Israel to stop bombing them. Because, you see, that's infantilising the Palestinian people, and instead we should be holding them to a higher standard. The sensible thing to do is demand that they pull themselves up by their bootstraps, learn to deal with their own problems, and overthrow Hamas. We are, as a nation, hosed. In the head.
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winegums posted:Everyone wants to be the philosopher poet in the revolution. Nobody wants to clean the toilets. It also pairs well with UBI because then if you don't want to work to just stay alive, you don't have to. You can be a philosopher poet if you want, you just don't get to demand any more than Maslow's hierarchy of needs. But if you want more so you can buy fancy treats, you can do one of the jobs that needs doing. The more it needs doing the more you get. Everyone gets the basics they need, and then the extra goes to those working hardest. The best way I've made headway on this is asking people about the guy at their work who half arses everything and doesn't want to be there - the guy who does the bare minimum to pick up a cheque. That guy can just stay home and not slow things down for anyone else who is trying to make extra. Again, this is in the context of a society where only the people who want to work are working. I'm sick of this idea that absolutely every person needs a 'job' (employment which provides enough income to survive, for 99's benefit) or they die. It's backwards. Economists love going on about material incentives to work, but that's not what wages are any more. They're not an incentive, it's the financial equivalent of treading water for most people. RTP is good and everyone should read it. Diet Crack posted:"continue this way plebian, for you must fill my coffers" Again, the tories are "you should make more money for us" and current labour are "we should make more money for them."
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maybe a solution might be to not only tax passive income but apply community service to it as well. So if you "earn" 5 grand a month as a landlord or whatever then you need to clean toilets for 50 hours.
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Another RTP suggestion was to give currency an expiry date so nobody can hoard it. That would also make landlording pointless.
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grobbo posted:Hadley Freeman was sincerely arguing in her Times column yesterday that it's racist towards Palestinians to call for Israel to stop bombing them. That's what being a terf and liking woody Allen does to you.
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He's not wrong, but he's also talking about himself, so doubly not wrong
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NotJustANumber99 posted:i thought gently caress pig was the previous guy? Fuckpig is a prerequisite to be Top Boy
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Overall my one month shopping trip cost me £90, prices ever move upwards. First world issue of the day: my 1L of ice cream has been sneakily reduced to 900ml. I quickly ate all of it to make me feel better about the shrinkflation... but isn't that the true meaning of ice cream anyway? 
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forkboy84 posted:https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/oct/31/keir-starmer-israel-hamas-ceasefire-may-risk-further-violence it's been really something to watch him completely unnecessarily make such an utterly shat bed out of this nobody needed him to say he thought israel had the right to cut off food and water to palestinians, but he somehow thought that was a good idea then tried to say he didn't say what he said now this poo poo jesus christ
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grobbo posted:Hadley Freeman was sincerely arguing in her Times column yesterday that it's racist towards Palestinians to call for Israel to stop bombing them. I'm calling on Israel to stop infantilising Hadley Freeman.
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Sorry but supporting human rights were what the gay socialist hitlermarxist before tried to impose on the country. To be pragmatic he has to lust for brown baby death.
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crispix posted:it's been really something to watch him completely unnecessarily make such an utterly shat bed out of this Then they got drunk and drove my SUV over a cyclist. Anyone who would support these vile actions is not welcome in the Labour Party.
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Guavanaut posted:Seconding this, and also the documentary Decade of Fire for more on the kind of political environment that "there is work to be done, let's build our neighborhood" poster operated within and against. Imagine if Bernie and Corbyn both won and did the Green New Deal thing and then it worked well and inspired other countries to do the same. 
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Kieth is straight gone off 20 points ahead in the polls. He's absolutely off his tits on electability
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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/oct/31/edward-colston-statue-protest-bristol-xahra-saleem-fundraiser A key organiser of the protest in Bristol during which a statue of the slave trader Edward Colston was toppled and dumped in the city’s harbour has been jailed for two and a half years for fraud. Xahra Saleem, 23, admitted using more than £30,000 that was supposed to go to a charity for disadvantaged youngsters in the city and to fund her lifestyle, including spending almost £6,000 on Ubers. During her sentencing hearing at Bristol crown court, fellow directors of the charity Changing Your Mindset said Saleem’s crime led to the organisation shutting down.
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Brendan Rodgers posted:Imagine if Bernie and Corbyn both won and did the Green New Deal thing and then it worked well and inspired other countries to do the same. Speaking of Sanders, he seems to be very reluctant to call for a ceasefire in Gaza as well
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drat that's a lot of Ubers. Or one really big Uber. The Obergruppenüber
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Bobby Deluxe posted:It's backwards. Bobby Deluxe posted:Another RTP suggestion was to give currency an expiry date so nobody can hoard it. That would also make landlording pointless. I'd forgotten that from RTP, it's a long time since I read it. But it goes together well with "it's backwards" which is the core of MMT - instead of begging the rich for tax money and then maybe spending it on things, spend it where it needs to be spent (see Guav's poster), then see where it pools at the top and tax it off them. But I like the expiry date thing. Maybe we can use a blockchain for that 
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Failed Imagineer posted:Or one really big Uber. The Obergruppenüber
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Currency already sort of expires through inflation. Rich people get around this by buying assets like houses, so I'm not sure how that would solve the problem
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make their houses expire alternatively make the rich expire
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Jippa posted:https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/oct/31/edward-colston-statue-protest-bristol-xahra-saleem-fundraiser If I came into the possession of £40k of charity money, I would simply open a business bank account to keep it in, rather than entrusting some random 20yr old to stick in her personal account for safekeeping.
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The money was resting in her account!
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if i was going to steal money from a charity I wouldn't waste it on ubers
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Jippa posted:https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/oct/31/edward-colston-statue-protest-bristol-xahra-saleem-fundraiser guessing she didn't know that if she simply called herself a charity CEO she could have just claimed it as a "salary" and "expenses" and gotten a fawning article in the graun and away clean with exactly the same loving robbery
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Jippa posted:https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/oct/31/edward-colston-statue-protest-bristol-xahra-saleem-fundraiser drat, pulled a Natalie McGarry. DesperateDan posted:guessing she didn't know that if she simply called herself a charity CEO she could have just claimed it as a "salary" and "expenses" and gotten a fawning article in the graun and away clean with exactly the same loving robbery I don't think she was white, so that wouldn't have worked.
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Work is good for you chat: Hot take of the day. https://x.com/LaundryQueen__/status/1719079752944734269?s=20 Send 'em up the chimneys I say.. oh we haven't got any chimneys. They can curl up in potholes in the road to give smooth passage to cars then.
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I've tried to get my nephew to work on the building site and hes useless.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Work is good for you chat: Jfc the image in the tweet that ghoul is responding to breaks my heart
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I thought 10 year olds were generally a lot bigger than 6 year olds
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History Comes Inside! posted:I thought 10 year olds were generally a lot bigger than 6 year olds What, do you expect us to give them nutritious meals? We're already giving them smokes so they wouldn't feel hunger 
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Celtic have suspended the Green Brigade - who I just had to google - are the group of their supporters who fly Palestinian flags at matches. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-67277186 quote:The Green Brigade had already been banned from receiving tickets for away games.
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biglads posted:The critical tipping point where flags start to become flegs Just wait for Rangers to unfurl the Israeli flegs as counterpoint... if they haven't already done so. 
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Rules against political expression at football are poo poo, fifa/uefa should be dismantled.Just Another Lurker posted:Just wait for Rangers to unfurl the Israeli flegs as counterpoint... if they haven't already done so. They do so every week
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