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INTJ Mastermind posted:I use wireless with Virtual Desktop, and any latency or compression artifacts are imperceptible to me. Not having a cord tugging at my head is a huge immersion and QOL up lift. I'm the weirdo with pulleys. VD is just not viable for some stuff to me, like Pistol Whip can't run at good graphics/resolutions/bitrate via PCVR even with my D-Link VR dongle. You move your head fast and poo poo goes sideways. Via cable it's perfection. There are just some games I am fine wireless, some games I want wired, some games I want just Quest native. It's a pain but minmaxing is what goons do, right?
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Now that all the four-eyes have stopped hijacking this thread... Imagine needing glasses lol I also have issues trying to get different games to run with VD, and just in general have a lot of compatibility issues using my Quest 3 with PCVR Hoping it will get better or I figure out the tricks to getting this working right.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2HVONy1f7k 7.5/10 for the Vampire game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrsC5BpTxk0 Turin Turambar fucked around with this message at 17:30 on Oct 31, 2023 |
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Turin Turambar posted:and... Lemming next project: Very happy to shill, long story short our plan is to build it as more or less a massively multiplayer VR sports game, with the idea being that instead of being siloed into individual small matches and forcing players to deal with the overhead of managing and connecting to individual games, players can be on a 200 person station and naturally move between areas, join/spectate/hangout in different arenas naturally just by moving between them. It's still really early, but we've already gotten it working well enough to be confident in saying that it is in fact as loving sick as it sounds like it'd be
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Opinionated posted:I also have issues trying to get different games to run with VD, and just in general have a lot of compatibility issues using my Quest 3 with PCVR Have you tried the Discord for Virtual Desktop? Griping at The Guy sometimes gets results, like when the bad reviews about the online-only DRM got it removed.
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Oct 31, 2023 17:25
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Lemming posted:Very happy to shill, long story short our plan is to build it as more or less a massively multiplayer VR sports game, with the idea being that instead of being siloed into individual small matches and forcing players to deal with the overhead of managing and connecting to individual games, players can be on a 200 person station and naturally move between areas, join/spectate/hangout in different arenas naturally just by moving between them. It's still really early, but we've already gotten it working well enough to be confident in saying that it is in fact as loving sick as it sounds like it'd be Oh , the massive angle was something unexpected.
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Oct 31, 2023 17:29
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Lemming posted:Very happy to shill, long story short our plan is to build it as more or less a massively multiplayer VR sports game, with the idea being that instead of being siloed into individual small matches and forcing players to deal with the overhead of managing and connecting to individual games, players can be on a 200 person station and naturally move between areas, join/spectate/hangout in different arenas naturally just by moving between them. It's still really early, but we've already gotten it working well enough to be confident in saying that it is in fact as loving sick as it sounds like it'd be the idea of a single massive sports/arcade/spectate/socialize game sounds really enticing
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Black August posted:the idea of a single massive sports/arcade/spectate/socialize game sounds really enticing Yeah, if you take a look at the station (and it's so early obviously all of this is more or less barely more than greyboxing so it's all gonna change):  The games take place in those two arenas you can see on the right, and everywhere else players can just go wherever they want. We've had lots of cases where you're in an arena and someone drops, so you just yell at a spectator to join. Sometimes people start leaving, so a group of 2-4 people will float to the other arena to see if there's still enough people for a game. You'll get people hanging out above the arenas and cheering for one side or the other, or just hanging out and having conversations while waiting for a spot to open up, or just cooling off. You don't have to gently caress around with invites, friends, starting/stopping matches, going to new servers, waiting to join the server because it's full, etc. It rules.
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Oct 31, 2023 18:05
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I just realized that Bonelab was supposed to have an intense intro with me hanging myself. For some reason it always just starts with me falling. Anyone know what the deal is? When I search it all I find is people who found the intro too disturbing and wanted to skip it, but it seems I can't' not skip it. The game also makes you delete and reinstall to start over which kind of sucks.
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Nice Van My Man posted:I just realized that Bonelab was supposed to have an intense intro with me hanging myself. For some reason it always just starts with me falling. Anyone know what the deal is? When I search it all I find is people who found the intro too disturbing and wanted to skip it, but it seems I can't' not skip it. The game also makes you delete and reinstall to start over which kind of sucks. I possibly have a copy that's older and it still had the rope hanging part. I read that it got removed somewhere. Zero VGS posted:Have you tried the Discord for Virtual Desktop? Griping at The Guy sometimes gets results, like when the bad reviews about the online-only DRM got it removed. I'll check it out thanks
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Oct 31, 2023 18:25
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Lemming posted:Yeah, if you take a look at the station (and it's so early obviously all of this is more or less barely more than greyboxing so it's all gonna change): Really cool. As fun as VRChat is, having a VR social setting with a unifying focus (various sports and games happening live) feels like it'd go a long ways towards showing what VR gaming could and should be doing. The idea of being able to immediately drop in without going through 20 steps is also a huge move in the right direction to making VR play palatable. I wish the best.
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Also Bonelabs sucks, the Boneworks people are now last-gen has-beens, and the hanging intro was a really weird and poor choice.
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Black August posted:the Boneworks people are now last-gen has-beens, lol wtf is this
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mutata posted:lol wtf is this Me being sassy and spitty because of how much of a let down Bonelabs was.
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Fair enough. I struggle with Poe's Law.
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Opinionated posted:I possibly have a copy that's older and it still had the rope hanging part. I read that it got removed somewhere. Ah, I see now it was just removed. Darn it I wanted to kill myself in VR.
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Black August posted:Also Bonelabs sucks, the Boneworks people are now last-gen has-beens, and the hanging intro was a really weird and poor choice. Superhot had the part where you had to shoot yourself in the head too, which is always funny when you do it to yourself in a VR FPS game but not so much when you force players to do it in a single-player or make mixed company watch you do it in multiplayer.
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I played my copy of BoneLabs and remember hanging myself. Personally, I get why it was removed, and I don't really care either way. It was kind of a unique gaming experience. Can't say I've ever done that.
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I had to look up a guide cause I kept trying to climb the rope or swing it around. The first time I tried to put it over my head I didn't have it positioned right so I thought ok maybe I don't hang myself! I was wrong A+ very visceral experience, always wondered what that felt like
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Zero VGS posted:Superhot had the part where you had to shoot yourself in the head too, which is always funny when you do it to yourself in a VR FPS game but not so much when you force players to do it in a single-player or make mixed company watch you do it in multiplayer. Superhot devs removed the part where you shoot yourself, as well as the part where you jump off a building because we have advanced as a society. I remember forcing myself to jump off a virtual roof and it was weird making my legs work - the brain knew it was fine but the body REALLY didn't want to do it.
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Poldarn posted:Superhot devs removed the part where you shoot yourself, as well as the part where you jump off a building because we have advanced as a society. I remember forcing myself to jump off a virtual roof and it was weird making my legs work - the brain knew it was fine but the body REALLY didn't want to do it. Personally I think thats lame. I think its fair to have it optional or a warning for self harm but being forced to do some form of "escape the simulation" by betraying your base instinct is a cool theme.
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Got my BoboVR M3 in today. Guessing it's just a retrofit for their Quest 2 strap, but why change what works? It's still really nice. I'm probably on the extreme end of head size they designed this thing for so dialing it in was a process, but I've got it so it's comfortable and not sliding around, so a big improvement over the stock strap. Will have to put the battery through its paces later but it's not gonna keep the Q3 charged, but if it lasts long enough that the Q3 battery drains slower than it, that's still fine.
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Lemming posted:The games take place in those two arenas you can see on the right, and everywhere else players can just go wherever they want. We've had lots of cases where you're in an arena and someone drops, so you just yell at a spectator to join. Sometimes people start leaving, so a group of 2-4 people will float to the other arena to see if there's still enough people for a game. You'll get people hanging out above the arenas and cheering for one side or the other, or just hanging out and having conversations while waiting for a spot to open up, or just cooling off. You don't have to gently caress around with invites, friends, starting/stopping matches, going to new servers, waiting to join the server because it's full, etc. It rules. Really cool. So many kids used to just hang out in Echo lobbies (as they do in Gorilla Tag) and just socialise/chat/do silly stuff together, the game itself was almost secondary. Building on that makes a lot of sense.
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Novasol posted:Got my BoboVR M3 in today. Guessing it's just a retrofit for their Quest 2 strap, but why change what works? It's still really nice. I'm probably on the extreme end of head size they designed this thing for so dialing it in was a process, but I've got it so it's comfortable and not sliding around, so a big improvement over the stock strap. Will have to put the battery through its paces later but it's not gonna keep the Q3 charged, but if it lasts long enough that the Q3 battery drains slower than it, that's still fine. The reddit weirdos have been going ham on the battery not being strong enough, but honestly all I expected was extended life. Hopefully they create more powerful ones later. Mine showed up today as well, but I'm not home to mess with it sadly. But only like 11 days from order to arrival is cool.
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The previews for Asgards Wrath 2 are quite hype inducing. I'm glad they're including it with the headset, and not charging $50 to buy it bundled with the system like Call of the Mountain and PSVR 2. If it ends up being a killer app, the buzz and promotion it would bring would benefit Meta more than the X amount of dollars they'd earn from more copies being purchased. Like what Wii Sports did for the Wii.
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ShaneB posted:The reddit weirdos have been going ham on the battery not being strong enough, but honestly all I expected was extended life. Hopefully they create more powerful ones later. Mines coming in later this week. With the Quest 2, I would go through two batteries, and my headset would be at a little over 50%. If it's anything like that with the Quest 3, I'll be more than happy
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That installation was a pain, by the way. The Velcro strap part basically requires a spudger/knife/tweezers to feed through. But yeah it's great.
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ShaneB posted:That installation was a pain, by the way. The Velcro strap part basically requires a spider/knife/tweezers to feed through. But yeah it's great. Good news is you don't actually need the forehead velcro strap. I've found I prefer it without it, cause I can place the facial interface where I want with less fiddling.
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pantsfree posted:Really cool. So many kids used to just hang out in Echo lobbies (as they do in Gorilla Tag) and just socialise/chat/do silly stuff together, the game itself was almost secondary. Building on that makes a lot of sense. Yeah, that's a big part of why I'm so excited by this project: we get to look about what aspects specifically were interesting about previous games, and drill down into them and really flesh them out. It's nice to be able to affirmatively work towards something that is based on observations instead of just kind of trying something random and hoping it works out
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Lemming posted:Yeah, that's a big part of why I'm so excited by this project: we get to look about what aspects specifically were interesting about previous games, and drill down into them and really flesh them out. It's nice to be able to affirmatively work towards something that is based on observations instead of just kind of trying something random and hoping it works out I'm curious what MP backend you're using for lobby/social stuff.
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Lemming posted:Yeah, that's a big part of why I'm so excited by this project: we get to look about what aspects specifically were interesting about previous games, and drill down into them and really flesh them out. It's nice to be able to affirmatively work towards something that is based on observations instead of just kind of trying something random and hoping it works out I'm high but the first thing that comes to my mind is Splatoon style community weekends. It seems so superficial and silly but I'll be damned if Hamburgers are going to lose to Hotdogs.
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Poldarn posted:Superhot devs removed the part where you shoot yourself, as well as the part where you jump off a building because we have advanced as a society. I remember forcing myself to jump off a virtual roof and it was weird making my legs work - the brain knew it was fine but the body REALLY didn't want to do it. The bit where you have to shoot yourself was kinda heinous as it leads with a statement of "YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO", which you could see setting some gears turning in people in a bad headspace.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:The bit where you have to shoot yourself was kinda heinous as it leads with a statement of "YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO", which you could see setting some gears turning in people in a bad headspace. Is that uniquely bad compared to the other 99% of the game where they get a gun and kill other people? I don't want anyone to kill themselves, but if they're so unstable that that is what's going to tip poo poo off, I'd rather they take themselves out than go shoot up a mall.
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Bedurndurn posted:I don't want anyone to kill themselves, but if they're so unstable that that is what's going to tip poo poo off, I'd rather they take themselves out than go shoot up a mall. Hey kindly gently caress off thanks.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:The bit where you have to shoot yourself was kinda heinous as it leads with a statement of "YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO", which you could see setting some gears turning in people in a bad headspace. They made the right decision to take it out.
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Bedurndurn posted:Is that uniquely bad compared to the other 99% of the game where they get a gun and kill other people? I don't want anyone to kill themselves, but if they're so unstable that that is what's going to tip poo poo off, I'd rather they take themselves out than go shoot up a mall. loving gross. Rethink this opinion. e: To clarify. Comparing someone who might be nudged into suicidal places with someone who might go 'shoot up a mall' is ignorant and unkind.
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Bedurndurn posted:Is that uniquely bad compared to the other 99% of the game where they get a gun and kill other people? I don't want anyone to kill themselves, but if they're so unstable that that is what's going to tip poo poo off, I'd rather they take themselves out than go shoot up a mall. As someone who has lost someone close to suicide, I'd kindly ask you to sit the gently caress down, and shut the gently caress up.
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Bedurndurn posted:Is that uniquely bad compared to the other 99% of the game where they get a gun and kill other people? I don't want anyone to kill themselves, but if they're so unstable that that is what's going to tip poo poo off, I'd rather they take themselves out than go shoot up a mall. Everyone is really hostile because it's a serious thing, which is why it was removed, why that was the right move, and why it doesn't harm you in any way. If you don't ~get it~ then you probably should just keep it to yourself since, well, you don't get it.
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As a standalone thing with willing and informed participants, it's an interesting idea because you have to force some serious cognitive dissonance, which is very weird. Like I'm fine with it in that plank experience game because jumping off a building is literally the entire point and it's communicated up front. But even though I thought it was a neat gimmick in the moment (and I'm personally glad I experienced it before it got taken out), it's not something you just want to surprise people with because it can be really well... triggering. It's like if halfway through at a fancy tasting menu restaurant they gave you something insanely spicy with no warning just for the "experience" of being forced to do something unpleasant. I'm sure someone out there would enjoy it, but it's crossing a line that exists for a reason.
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As someone who is lucky enough to have never experienced suicidal thoughts nor lost anyone particularly close to me, there is definitely a part of me that wishes I could have had the experience of encountering those scenes blind. That said, as someone who has watched too many friends grieve those they have lost I can only imagine how horrible that same exact experience could be for some of them, especially the ones unfortunate enough to have either witnessed or discovered the aftermath of someone taking that action in real life. We don't even have to get in to what might "push a person over the edge", just think about the much larger group of people who cared about those already gone, some of whom might have been playing video games to try to take their mind off it.
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