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Clip-On Fedora
Feb 20, 2011

Ardennes posted:

We will see about Hezbollah, but honestly, I really don’t think this thing has really turned in either direction For all the fire that the IDF has thrown at Gaza and the civilians that died, they really haven’t shown verifiable results. The fact they can only claim fields after weeks of bombing and several days of assaults is telling.

Honestly, I think everyone is jockeying behind the scenes at this point to gain an edge and no one wants to stick their neck out but at the same time I don’t think any of the players in the region actually want the Israelis to win.

All these seemingly bullshit assurances of support from countries in the region juxtaposed with all these stories of Palestinians dying from hunger and thirst is the most frustrating thing on earth. It pisses me off and I wish someone would just get off their rear end and do something.

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Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009

crepeface posted:

ive decided that US red lines are meaningless and that russia should sink the carriers with hypersonics

that would be bad. American bloodlust would spike like Israeli bloodlust did on and after 10/7. nothing good would come from that

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
israeli casualties from yesterday skyrocketing 11 admitted by the IDF so far + 9 roasted in the tank

https://x.com/alarabytv/status/1719569306420117950?s=46&t=kY7HKwmb1RBg9U186lxtbg

it looks like israel got loving annihalated trying to take empty fields.

does anyone know if theyve managed to bisect gaza yet?

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

https://twitter.com/cchukudebelu/status/1719432840943722725

VomitOnLino
Jun 13, 2005

Sometimes I get lost.

Clip-On Fedora posted:

All these seemingly bullshit assurances of support from countries in the region juxtaposed with all these stories of Palestinians dying from hunger and thirst is the most frustrating thing on earth. It pisses me off and I wish someone would just get off their rear end and do something.

Yeah, it's the equivalent of a KZ guard stubbing their toe and the entire western world is rushing in to console them.... I can not imagine how these garbage countries could make themselves look any worse short of doing the slaughtering themselves

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

https://twitter.com/ettingermentum/status/1719392047163965832

Btw this guy is like an 18 year old Georgian socialist dude and his writing on this is somehow better than 90 percent of all mainstream media. The FT ended up stealing his article comparing Hamas to the Vietcong and October 7th to Tet

VomitOnLino
Jun 13, 2005

Sometimes I get lost.

Spergin Morlock posted:

that would be bad. American bloodlust would spike like Israeli bloodlust did on and after 10/7. nothing good would come from that

shup up bitch, how the gently caress can they be more bloodthirsty than calling for eradication of all Palestinians ?

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

PawParole posted:

https://twitter.com/ettingermentum/status/1719392047163965832

Btw this guy is like an 18 year old Georgian socialist dude and his writing on this is somehow better than 90 percent of all mainstream media. The FT ended up stealing his article comparing Hamas to the Vietcong and October 7th to Tet

Ben Gvir’s criminal record is reportedly so long that a court once had to change the ink in their Xerox when printing it out. In his speeches, Ben-Gvir refers Kahane as nothing less than a saint; as for Goldstein, the terrorist mass murderer, Ben-Gvir hung a gigantic mural of him in his living room for almost the entirety of his adult life, only taking it down recently when fellow ultra-right settlers said it was bad optics. He still refers to both as “martyrs” to this day, even in speeches given in his capacity as National Security Minister.

Ardennes
May 12, 2002
I mean some teams make it and others don’t but usually they are operating from cover and their goal isn’t to be outside to long. That said, Hamas may actually just be training and arming new teams as well. I mean a tandem RPG or even a Kornet is not exactly the most expensive or rare pieces of kit.

Most maps show that they only have advanced a km or two in that region in the center, short of the main road. The deeper the IDF gets, the more danger that they put themselves.

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
also in case people are wonderinf im not being flippant, triumphalist or copium when i say the war was decided.

it was decided on october 7th, israel as a major military/intelligence/tech player is finished. they are struggling in a war for a month against the poorest and most oppressed of the earth people, they needed americas full might to come save them, the mountain hillbillies of yemen are poubding their red sea port. their tanks and troops are gettinf wiped by the dozens/hundreds. they cant protect their settler colonialists anymore. and theyve reminded a new generation why they must be eliminated as a cancer.

the 'west' elite showed its true face as the inheritors of nazism, theres no reason to argue anything anout human rights with them anymore. only smashing their faces in and attaining your human rights by force will work. israel through their complete lunacy lost all possible sympathy for generations.

they can kill as many civilians as they like. hell they might re-occupy gaza and sink in that swap and drown. but in every real sense of the word the 'project' of israel is now counting down on its deathbed.

the real challenge is how to get rid of the collaborationist governments, thats the real pickle.

Al-Saqr has issued a correction as of 05:52 on Nov 1, 2023

Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009

VomitOnLino posted:

shup up bitch, how the gently caress can they be more bloodthirsty than calling for eradication of all Palestinians ?

:goofy: nevermind

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*

Ardennes posted:

On one hand you got carriers and air strikes, and on the other hand it Hamas and the Palestinians go under, then who is next? You can’t reason with Israel and the US and ultimately it is better to fight now when the Israelis are heavily distracted then wait for Israeli and the US to finally get their poo poo together.

Neoliberal aside neither one is helpless especially if they can bring their weaponry fully to bear.

what land does israel desire? i could believe the neighbouring arab governments believe that israel would be sated with all palestine and would accept the genocide of all of them in return for "peace" if their people and religious elite didn't hold them to account.

we did also just watch the EU leadership bend over and spread wide open for the US, even to the point of blatant industrial terrorism

Complications
Jun 19, 2014

crepeface posted:

ive decided that US red lines are meaningless and that russia should sink the carriers with hypersonics

this is the moral course of action

Ardennes
May 12, 2002

crepeface posted:

what land does israel desire? i could believe the neighbouring arab governments believe that israel would be sated with all palestine and would accept the genocide of all of them in return for "peace" if their people and religious elite didn't hold them to account.

we did also just watch the EU leadership bend over and spread wide open for the US, even to the point of blatant industrial terrorism

The Palestinians are a way for Arab governments to tie down the Israelis and the US, and let’s be honest, Israeli interests are not simply within their currently claimed borders.

The Egypts don’t want to face the wrath of the US but they don’t want Gaza to fall either.

Also, it is going to be easier to train a small AT team in a place they grew up in then a crew of reservists that have to navigate it. Hamas doesn’t need a huge training window for their teams.

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
https://x.com/bayanpalestine/status/1719430856945611241?s=46&t=kY7HKwmb1RBg9U186lxtbg

bawfuls
Oct 28, 2009

VomitOnLino posted:

shup up bitch, how the gently caress can they be more bloodthirsty than calling for eradication of all Palestinians ?
idk man hard to figure out how the average American would react to several thousand dead American sailors at the hand of Russia, it’s not like a huge portion of the US public has been primed for years to hate Russia or anything

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Clip-On Fedora posted:

All these seemingly bullshit assurances of support from countries in the region juxtaposed with all these stories of Palestinians dying from hunger and thirst is the most frustrating thing on earth. It pisses me off and I wish someone would just get off their rear end and do something.

Nasrallah should join Do Something twitter

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
mussolinis failsons in the IDF

https://x.com/ajarabic/status/1719580025467404663?s=46&t=kY7HKwmb1RBg9U186lxtbg

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Clip-On Fedora posted:

All these seemingly bullshit assurances of support from countries in the region juxtaposed with all these stories of Palestinians dying from hunger and thirst is the most frustrating thing on earth. It pisses me off and I wish someone would just get off their rear end and do something.

The modern version of "support" means you get an upvote on twitter or YouTube.

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

I think the most shocking thing from Ukraine + this is that there are a disturbingly high number of countries who have leadership that apparently have zero self preservation instincts. No thought is given to what their situation is going to look like because of israels war or the poo poo the US is getting up to with Russia and China, they're just blindly following along, there's no attempt to gain anything or get a tactical advantage in other areas, it's just a weird pseudo-religious adherence to whatever the US wants

VomitOnLino
Jun 13, 2005

Sometimes I get lost.

bawfuls posted:

idk man hard to figure out how the average American would react to several thousand dead American sailors at the hand of Russia, it’s not like a huge portion of the US public has been primed for years to hate Russia or anything

The opinion of the average American, which has indeed been hugely influential on the leaderships course taken in the Iraq wars, the Genocide in Palestine now and ... *presses hand into earpiece*

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*

bawfuls posted:

idk man hard to figure out how the average American would react to several thousand dead American sailors at the hand of Russia, it’s not like a huge portion of the US public has been primed for years to hate Russia or anything

fine, fine.

CHINA should sink the carriers with hypersonics

VomitOnLino
Jun 13, 2005

Sometimes I get lost.

crepeface posted:

fine, fine.

CHINA should sink the carriers with hypersonics

Why not one each. They can then show a clip of Putin and Xi high fiving while the average American falls down in front of his 85" TV frothing at the mouth and twitching uncontrollably

Ardennes
May 12, 2002

Grapplejack posted:

I think the most shocking thing from Ukraine + this is that there are a disturbingly high number of countries who have leadership that apparently have zero self preservation instincts. No thought is given to what their situation is going to look like because of israels war or the poo poo the US is getting up to with Russia and China, they're just blindly following along, there's no attempt to gain anything or get a tactical advantage in other areas, it's just a weird pseudo-religious adherence to whatever the US wants

They just call them up and threaten to delete their accounts and they automatically comply.

Keeper Garrett
May 4, 2006

Running messages and picking pockets since 1998.

Lord of Pie posted:

more and more people saying this

DEE. TEA. EYE.

fizzier
Oct 29, 2023

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
沙特阿拉伯外交部在一份声明中谴责以色列对贾巴利亚难民营的“不人道袭击”。


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2023/11/1/israel-hamas-war-live-anger-grows-over-israeli-attack-on-gaza-refugee-camp

Saudi Arabia condemns ‘inhumane targeting’ of Jabalia refugee camp
1h ago (03:25 GMT)

Saudi Arabia has condemned Israel’s “inhumane targeting” of the Jabalia refugee camp in a statement shared by Saudi Arabia’s foreign ministry.

“The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia condemns in the strongest terms possible the inhumane targeting by the Israeli occupation forces of the Jabalia refugee camp in the besieged Gaza Strip,” the statement said.

The latest attack on the densely populated refugee camp “caused the death and injury of a large number of innocent civilians”, the statement added.

VomitOnLino
Jun 13, 2005

Sometimes I get lost.

Ardennes posted:

They just call them up and threaten to delete their accounts and they automatically comply.

You mean, they call them up and threaten to release the accounts of what happened on the pedo island lol

OctaMurk
Jun 21, 2013

Popy posted:

turning a tank into a air fryer with one weird trick

Russia’s Israel's tanks in Ukraine Gaza have a ‘jack-in-the-box’ design flaw. And the West Resistance has known about it since the Gulf Lebanon war

BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK




crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*

Grapplejack posted:

I think the most shocking thing from Ukraine + this is that there are a disturbingly high number of countries who have leadership that apparently have zero self preservation instincts. No thought is given to what their situation is going to look like because of israels war or the poo poo the US is getting up to with Russia and China, they're just blindly following along, there's no attempt to gain anything or get a tactical advantage in other areas, it's just a weird pseudo-religious adherence to whatever the US wants

it's because all the elite dickheads at the top of each government don't have their fates tethered to the fortunes of their people. they can just move to a villa or a gated community after their country degenerates into a neoliberal hellhole

fizzier
Oct 29, 2023

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
以色列军队周三表示,周二在加沙地带北部有九名士兵丧生,当时他们乘坐的装甲运兵车被反坦克导弹击中。


https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news...8f-b7df34bc0000

IDF: Nine Israeli soldiers killed Tuesday after anti-tank missile hits vehicle in northern Gaza
Yaniv Kubovich
6:13 AM

The Israeli army said Wednesday that nine soldiers were killed on Tuesday in the northern Gaza Strip, when the armored personnel carrier they were in was hit by an anti-tank missile.

The IDF named the fatalities as: Ariel Reich, 24, from Jerusalem; Asif Luger, 21, from Yagur; Adi Danan, 20, from Yavne; Halel Solomon, 20, from Dimona; Erez Mishlovsky, 20, from Oranit; Adi Leon, 20, from Nili; Ido Ovadia, 19, from Tel Aviv; Lior Siminovich, 19, from Herzliya; and Roei Dawi, 20, from Jerusalem.

On Tuesday, two soldiers from the IDF's Givati Brigade were killed during ground operations in the Gaza. They were named as Staff Sgt. Roei Wolf and Staff Sgt. Lavi Lipshitz.

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Grapplejack posted:

I think the most shocking thing from Ukraine + this is that there are a disturbingly high number of countries who have leadership that apparently have zero self preservation instincts. No thought is given to what their situation is going to look like because of israels war or the poo poo the US is getting up to with Russia and China, they're just blindly following along, there's no attempt to gain anything or get a tactical advantage in other areas, it's just a weird pseudo-religious adherence to whatever the US wants

It's been labelled a competency crisis by some. Leaders are selected for traits other than ability. That's it really.

FirstnameLastname
Jul 10, 2022
On February 25, 1994, Goldstein, a resident of the illegal Israeli settlement of Kiryat Arba near Hebron, entered a room in the Cave of the Patriarchs that was serving as a mosque. Dressed in Israeli military uniform, he opened fire on the 800 Palestinian Muslim worshippers praying during the month of Ramadan, killing 29 and wounding 125 worshippers, until he was beaten to death by survivors.

At Goldstein's funeral, Rabbi Yaacov Perrin claimed that even one million Arabs are "not worth a Jewish fingernail". Samuel Hacohen, a teacher at a Jerusalem college, declared Goldstein the "greatest Jew alive, not in one way, but in every way", and said that he was "the only one who could do it, the only one who was 100 percent perfect". Rabbi Dov Lior of Kiryat Arba declared that Goldstein was "holier than all the martyrs of the Holocaust".

neutral milf hotel
Oct 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

my bony fealty posted:

his stepfather was the lifelong lawyer for noted Israeli spy Robert Maxwell but nothing to see there

wtf

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes


This photo brings up an interesting statistic. The population of Palestine and it's apartheid fascist controlled areas is 7.145 million Jews and about 6.9 million Palestinians. That is why Gaza exists, that is why the west bank exists, Dan Carlin mentioned it as his defense for Israel's actions. If if every citizen of Palestine was given equal voting rights to the jewish people of Israel, they would be beating out of the ballot boxes all the time. Or have to form minority governments and end up caving to Palestinian requests.

I think that is the very needed explanation of how this is an apartheid. The people of the country are kept politically inactive due to segregation laws. Essentially.

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
god bless our jewish brothers and sisters in the fight against apartheid ✊

https://x.com/seamus_malek/status/1719582881046237496?s=46&t=kY7HKwmb1RBg9U186lxtbg

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.

my bony fealty posted:

his stepfather was the lifelong lawyer for noted Israeli spy Robert Maxwell but nothing to see there

The Epstein Thread crossover content we crave.

Jonah Galtberg
Feb 11, 2009

VomitOnLino posted:

Considering that Israel is completely stupid in regards to military doctrine - aka sending the tanks in there as a sort of punching bag without infantry support, I'd say their chances are not half bad

Oh I'm sure that there's no infantry support to speak of, but you would think that they're flying a whole lot of close air support. A missile launch should be instantly picked up by a drone or aircraft

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

fizzier posted:

沙特阿拉伯外交部在一份声明中谴责以色列对贾巴利亚难民营的“不人道袭击”。


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2023/11/1/israel-hamas-war-live-anger-grows-over-israeli-attack-on-gaza-refugee-camp

Saudi Arabia condemns ‘inhumane targeting’ of Jabalia refugee camp
1h ago (03:25 GMT)

Saudi Arabia has condemned Israel’s “inhumane targeting” of the Jabalia refugee camp in a statement shared by Saudi Arabia’s foreign ministry.

“The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia condemns in the strongest terms possible the inhumane targeting by the Israeli occupation forces of the Jabalia refugee camp in the besieged Gaza Strip,” the statement said.

The latest attack on the densely populated refugee camp “caused the death and injury of a large number of innocent civilians”, the statement added.

thanks for nothing.

oh youre not cancelling israeli airline airspace allowance and youre still inviting Jared Kushner? youre still not allowing people to donate to gaza because youre following american orders?

cool.

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DickParasite
Dec 2, 2004


Slippery Tilde

DancingShade posted:

It's been labelled a competency crisis by some. Leaders are selected for traits other than ability. That's it really.

And for relatively short terms. Putin, Xi, et. al. have more incentive to think longterm.

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