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🦋 | 15 | 3.71% | |
🦇 | 115 | 28.47% | |
🪰 | 12 | 2.97% | |
🐦 | 67 | 16.58% | |
dragonfly | 94 | 23.27% | |
🦟 | 14 | 3.47% | |
🐝 | 87 | 21.53% | |
Total: | 404 votes |
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why is oprah now abandoning Z-man? is it because ukraine is a culture war thing now like everything else?
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# ? Nov 1, 2023 22:00 |
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# ? Jun 12, 2024 22:21 |
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Jel Shaker posted:i was going to say you’re probably better off long term planning things with the bosses of these “temporary workers” i.e. the heads of major industries, but now it’s really just a mish mash of huge private equity funds who all own various huge slices of the same companies, and a conversation with them is almost certainly like talking to a fish with a memory that only lasts from quarter to quarter Nobody runs western capitalism. It just does things in accordance to its own rules. Weka posted:China proven to be correct once again in it's policy of doing diplomacy with cybernetic capitalism as the other party. Chairman Xi my country longs for freedom
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# ? Nov 1, 2023 22:01 |
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what the loving hell is he even talking about
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# ? Nov 1, 2023 22:05 |
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Starsfan posted:what the loving hell is he even talking about i think its just ai generated and then badly translated
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# ? Nov 1, 2023 22:09 |
Starsfan posted:what the loving hell is he even talking about it focus grouped well, what more do you want
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# ? Nov 1, 2023 22:18 |
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on the one hand vovan and lexus absolutely guaranteed for sure have some connection to russian intelligence, but on the other their calls do mostly seem genuine, seeing as nobody ever issues any kind of denial to their allegations
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# ? Nov 1, 2023 22:36 |
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Delta-Wye posted:it focus grouped well, what more do you want this really is the tragedy of the late-zelensky style of international politics. he was always saying corny stuff like this, but for a while he held universal commentariat sympathy which gave his platitudes a patina of heroism and somehow elevated them. now that it's gone it's just all cringe again
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# ? Nov 1, 2023 22:38 |
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MODERN POSITIONAL WARFARE AND HOW TO WIN IN IT, Valerii Zaluzhnyiquote:Having launched the large-scale armed aggression against Ukraine on February 24, quote:Reasons for the transition of hostilities to the positional form Officer Sandvich has issued a correction as of 22:47 on Nov 1, 2023 |
# ? Nov 1, 2023 22:40 |
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mila kunis posted:weird that they didn't tell the ukrainians that they had to win quick or they'd get bored when they cajoled them into escalating and subsequently refusing all peace negotiations Why would you say anything about that when your plan is based on the "fact" Russia would collapse under the sanctions? They only had to hold on for a few months according to the plan.
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# ? Nov 1, 2023 22:43 |
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V. Illych L. posted:this really is the tragedy of the late-zelensky style of international politics. he was always saying corny stuff like this, but for a while he held universal commentariat sympathy which gave his platitudes a patina of heroism and somehow elevated them. now that it's gone it's just all cringe again Zelensky's shtick when the world desperately wanted to back Ukraine vs after is like when those terrible performers who who have only performed for friends and family get on a talent show and finally get a genuine reaction from people who aren't invested in boosting them.
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# ? Nov 1, 2023 22:48 |
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Officer Sandvich posted:MODERN POSITIONAL WARFARE AND HOW TO WIN IN IT, Valerii Zaluzhnyi I was going to post this, you beat me. You edited out some of the choice parts about clearing minefields with firehouses and blinding UAVs with infrared lasers. Ultimately, the treatise reads like Zaluzhny grasping for straws trying to figure out how to fight an industrial war with a post-industrial, neoliberalized society (before anyone says it: Ukraine isn't post-industrial per se but the countries providing the weapons are). It reads like he's accepted that the West cannot outproduce Russia and that Ukrainian society cannot be sufficiently motivated to provide infantry, so logically the only hope for Ukraine decisively winning is some Western technical deus ex machina rescuing the AFU from being mired in a losing attritional war. As Frosted Flake would probably be much more qualified to write about (and as Zaluzhny probably also knows, but incorrectly asserted), new technology was not the primary reason movement returned to the western front of WWI after 3-odd years of trench warfare. Maneuver warfare primarily returned 1. because the belligerents' respective war industries started producing more of existing armaments (e.g., shell manufacture increased by many times, hand grenades went from being a battalion-level specialty asset to something every infantryman had, etc.) and 2. the two sides got much better at tactically and strategically concentrating firepower to effectively smash open defenses (also 3. Germany launched Operation Michael due to the particular strategic situation of early 1918 and punched themselves out). As Zaluzhny stated in his treatise, Ukraine cannot stockpile munitions (which would allow them to expend them at once to smash open Russian lines) and it palpably has a shortage of officers (e.g., see the leadership and performance of the 47th brigade). This makes it impossible for it to decisively concentrate mass and firepower to force a breakthrough. So what's left? Hope the tech dorks make an app that clears minefields I guess.
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# ? Nov 1, 2023 23:38 |
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Officer Sandvich posted:MODERN POSITIONAL WARFARE AND HOW TO WIN IN IT, Valerii Zaluzhnyi They're 0/5 lol as sum said, you can sense the desperation for a technological silver bullet because these are all "old", relatively simple, strategic problems but the solution - industrial production - is unthinkable. Frosted Flake has issued a correction as of 23:46 on Nov 1, 2023 |
# ? Nov 1, 2023 23:41 |
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a wizard will come and fix it is the traditional response to the contradictions and outcomes of neoliberalism
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# ? Nov 2, 2023 00:02 |
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A real technological silver bullet would require significant funding for research and development to an organization whose goals are not grifting so you can write that off too.
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# ? Nov 2, 2023 00:09 |
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mila kunis posted:a wizard will come and fix it is the traditional response to the contradictions and outcomes of neoliberalism "I cast Invisible Hand!"
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# ? Nov 2, 2023 00:09 |
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Zaraf | Z posted:
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# ? Nov 2, 2023 00:17 |
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Weka posted:Welcome back Tankbuster, free from a bullshit break I was sent to the poasting prison.
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# ? Nov 2, 2023 00:29 |
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Officer Sandvich posted:Speaking of Time magazine dunno, bro
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# ? Nov 2, 2023 00:33 |
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Jel Shaker posted:According to reports in the Italian press, the callers were two Russian comedians, Vladimir Kuznetsov and Alexei Stolyarov, jointly known as Vovan and Lexus, one of whom presented himself to Meloni as “an African politician”. why come.... why come I'm 'pposed to support Ukraine
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# ? Nov 2, 2023 01:16 |
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I see he still believes Ukraine will be let into the EU, any day now
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# ? Nov 2, 2023 01:31 |
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Dokapon Findom posted:https://twitter.com/ianbremmer/status/1719799261313802657 but that would mean the last 600+ days of death and destruction have been pointless!!
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# ? Nov 2, 2023 01:46 |
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new theory: zelenskyy sinks a US carrier and blames it on Russia
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# ? Nov 2, 2023 01:48 |
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CODChimera posted:but that would mean the last 600+ days of death and destruction have been pointless!! sunk cost zelensky
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# ? Nov 2, 2023 01:51 |
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CODChimera posted:new theory: zelenskyy sinks a US carrier and blames it on Russia wtf i like zelensky now
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# ? Nov 2, 2023 01:54 |
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crepeface posted:why come.... why come I'm 'pposed to support Ukraine thank you for your concern, mr. Linux Ubuntu
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# ? Nov 2, 2023 02:07 |
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antipattern posted:I see he still believes Ukraine will be let into the EU, any day now well who wouldn't be climbing over themselves to bring the economic powerhouse Ukraine on board, many are calling Ukraine the future Dubai of Europe. I like how Putin's position is "sure, join the EU, we don't give a poo poo about that" and yet it doesn't seem particularly likely that Ukraine will ever make it in..
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# ? Nov 2, 2023 02:34 |
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antipattern posted:I see he still believes Ukraine will be let into the EU, any day now
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# ? Nov 2, 2023 02:42 |
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Xaris posted:he's dumb and maybe still does believe that, but the big reason is using it as propaganda. liberals have utterly massive catnip boners over the EU and love "self-determination" buzzword that they suddenly learned on twitter a few years ago. Like i really cannot understate how much libs love EU and don't see why every country shouldn't join it and infact it's dastardly reactionary CHUDDDdd to be against it. telling liberals "putler is denying ukraine their self-determination to join the EU" is very potent move crafted specifically to tickle the feeble brains, despite being entirely wrong. It's incredibly stupid because Putin wasn't against the Ukrainian move to join the EU anyway. He might have started a war halfcocked but he's still intelligent enough to know the issue would come with NATO and not the EU.
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# ? Nov 2, 2023 02:48 |
CODChimera posted:new theory: zelenskyy sinks a US carrier and blames it on Russia Scarabrae posted:sunk cost zelensky
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# ? Nov 2, 2023 04:38 |
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supersnowman posted:It's incredibly stupid because Putin wasn't against the Ukrainian move to join the EU anyway. He might have started a war halfcocked but he's still intelligent enough to know the issue would come with NATO and not the EU. The issue was also on the slide with the EU, eventually Ukraine would be integrated in a Western security structure. Euromadian started because the government was ready to drop an EU association agreement for entry in the Eurasian Union, it is about both the EU and NATO.
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# ? Nov 2, 2023 04:46 |
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I imagine Putin dreamed of breaking EU away from NATO and America. It's the only thing that really explains his pro western outlook for the past like 20 years or something.
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# ? Nov 2, 2023 05:37 |
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Putin in 2007 "America's hegemony is unstable and is collapsing" Western reporters in 2007 "Putin is threatening to destroy America" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQ58Yv6kP44
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# ? Nov 2, 2023 05:42 |
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乌克兰的坏消息 - 乌克兰总司令瓦列里·扎卢日尼将军表示,战场让他想起一个世纪前的伟大冲突。 “就像第一次世界大战一样,我们的技术水平已经达到了让我们陷入僵局的程度,”他说。 将军的结论是,需要巨大的技术飞跃才能打破僵局。 “很可能不会有深刻而美丽的突破。” https://www.economist.com/europe/2023/11/01/ukraines-top-general-on-the-breakthrough-he-needs-to-beat-russia Ukraine’s top general on the breakthrough he needs to beat Russia Nov 1st 2023 Five months into its counter-offensive, Ukraine has managed to advance by just 17 kilometres. Russia fought for ten months around Bakhmut in the east “to take a town six by six kilometres”. Sharing his first comprehensive assessment of the campaign with The Economist in an interview this week, Ukraine’s commander-in-chief, General Valery Zaluzhny, says the battlefield reminds him of the great conflict of a century ago. “Just like in the first world war we have reached the level of technology that puts us into a stalemate,” he says. The general concludes that it would take a massive technological leap to break the deadlock. “There will most likely be no deep and beautiful breakthrough.” The course of the counter-offensive has undermined Western hopes that Ukraine could use it to demonstrate that the war is unwinnable–and thus change Vladimir Putin’s calculations, forcing the Russian president to negotiate. It has also undercut General Zaluzhny’s assumption that he could stop Russia by bleeding its troops. “That was my mistake. Russia has lost at least 150,000 dead. In any other country such casualties would have stopped the war.” But not in Russia, where life is cheap and where Mr Putin’s reference points are in the first and second world wars in which Russia lost tens of millions. An army of Ukraine’s standard ought to have been able to move at a speed of 30km a day as it breached Russian defensive lines. “If you look at NATO's text books and at the maths which we did [in planning the counter-offensive], four months should have been enough time for us to have reached Crimea, to have fought in Crimea, to return from Crimea and to have gone back in and out again,” General Zaluzhny says sardonically. Instead he watched his troops and equipment get stuck in minefields on the approaches to Bakhmut in the east, his Western-supplied equipment getting pummelled by Russian artillery and drones. The same story unfolded on the offensive’s main thrust, in the south, where newly formed and inexperienced brigades, despite being equipped with modern Western kit, immediately ran into trouble. “First I thought there was something wrong with our commanders, so I changed some of them. Then I thought maybe our soldiers are not fit for purpose, so I moved soldiers in some brigades,” says General Zaluzhny. When those changes failed to make a difference, the commander told his staff to dig out a book he once saw as a student in a military academy in Ukraine. Its title was “Breaching Fortified Defence Lines”. It was published in 1941 by a Soviet major-general, P. S. Smirnov, who analysed the battles of the first world war. “And before I got even halfway through it, I realised that is exactly where we are because just like then, the level of our technological development today has put both us and our enemies in a stupor.” That thesis, he says, was borne out as he went to the front line in Avdiivka, also in the east, where Russia has recently advanced by a few hundred metres over several weeks by throwing in two of its armies. “On our monitor screens the day I was there we saw 140 Russian machines ablaze—destroyed within four hours of coming within firing range of our artillery.” Those fleeing were chased by “first-person-view” drones, remote-controlled and carrying explosive charges that their operators simply crash into the enemy. The same picture unfolds when Ukrainian troops try to advance. General Zaluzhny describes a battlefield in which modern sensors can identify any concentration of forces, and modern precision weapons can destroy it. “The simple fact is that we see everything the enemy is doing and they see everything we are doing. In order for us to break this deadlock we need something new, like the gunpowder which the Chinese invented and which we are still using to kill each other,” he says. This time, however, the decisive factor will be not a single new invention, but by combining all the technical solutions that already exist, he says. In an article written for The Economist by General Zaluzhny (see here), as well as in a full-length essay shared with the newspaper, he urges innovation in drones, electronic warfare, anti-artillery capabilities and de-mining equipment, including new robotic solutions. “We need to ride the power embedded in new technologies,” says the general. Western allies have been overly cautious in supplying Ukraine with their latest technology and more powerful weapons. Joe Biden, America’s president, set objectives at the start of Russia’s invasion: to ensure that Ukraine was not defeated and that America was not dragged into confrontation with Russia. This means that arms supplied by the West have been sufficient in sustaining Ukraine in the war, but not enough to allow it to win. General Zaluzhny is not complaining: “They are not obliged to give us anything, and we are grateful for what we have got, but I am simply stating the facts.” But by holding back the supply of long-range missile systems and tanks, the West allowed Russia to regroup and build up its defences in the aftermath of a sudden breakthrough in Kharkiv region in the north and in Kherson in the south late in 2022. “These systems were most relevant to us last year, but they only arrived this year,” he says. Similarly, f-16 jets, due next year, are now less helpful, suggests the general, in part because Russia has improved its air defences: an experimental version of the s-400 missile system can reach beyond the city of Dnipro, he warns. Yet the delay in arms deliveries, though frustrating, is not the main cause of Ukraine’s predicament, according to General Zaluzhny. “It is important to understand that this war cannot be won with the weapons of the past generation and outdated methods,” he insists. “They will inevitably lead to delay and, as a consequence, defeat.” It is, instead, technology that will be decisive, he argues. The general is enthused by recent conversations with Eric Schmidt, the former chief executive of Google, and stressed the decisive role of drones, and of electronic warfare which can prevent them from flying. General Zaluzhny’s assessment is sobering: there is no sign that a revolutionary technological breakthrough, whether in drones or in electronic warfare, is around the corner. And technology has its limits. Even in the first world war, the arrival of tanks, in 1917, was not sufficient to break the deadlock on the battlefield: it took a suite of technologies, and more than a decade of tactical innovation, to produce the German blitzkrieg in May 1940. The implication is that Ukraine is stuck in a long war—one in which he acknowledges Russia has the advantage. Nevertheless, he insists that Ukraine has no choice but to keep the initiative by remaining on the offensive, even if it only moves by a few metres a day. Crimea, he believes, remains Mr Putin’s greatest vulnerability. It is the linchpin of his imperial restoration project, and his legitimacy rests on having brought it back to Russia. Over the past few months, Ukraine has taken the war into the peninsula Mr Putin annexed in 2014 and which remains critical to the logistics of his war. “It must know that it is part of Ukraine and that this war is happening there.” On October 30th Ukraine struck Crimea with American-supplied long-range atacms missiles for the first time. General Zaluzhny is desperately trying to prevent the war from settling into the trenches. “The biggest risk of an attritional trench war is that it can drag on for years and wear down the Ukrainian state,” he says. In the first world war, mutinies interfered before technology could make a difference. Four empires collapsed and a revolution broke out in Russia. A collapse in Ukrainian morale and Western support is precisely what Mr Putin is counting on. There is no question in General Zaluzhny’s mind that a long war favours Russia, a country with a population three times and an economy ten times the size of Ukraine’s. “Let’s be honest, it’s a feudal state where the cheapest resource is human life. And for us…the most expensive thing we have is our people,” he says. For now, General Zaluzhny says, he has enough soldiers. But the longer the war goes on, the harder it will be to sustain. “We need to look for this solution, we need to find this gunpowder, quickly master it and use it for a speedy victory. Because sooner or later we are going to find that we simply don’t have enough people to fight.”
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# ? Nov 2, 2023 05:47 |
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Ardennes posted:The issue was also on the slide with the EU, eventually Ukraine would be integrated in a Western security structure. Euromadian started because the government was ready to drop an EU association agreement for entry in the Eurasian Union, it is about both the EU and NATO. Ukraine joining the EU probably means another big part of its population leave for more prosperous EU countries, slashing any of its economic output and tax base launching the country into a fail cascade to be propped up by the EU or more IMF loan "financed" by more slashing of social spending.
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# ? Nov 2, 2023 05:49 |
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Ukraine joining the EU is a non starter anyway because of all the stuff that would need changing (anything from institution reform to road signage) to satisfy the membership requirements, and that was before the war even started. I mean I'm sure the EU capitalists would love nothing more than several more million people to exploit for low, low wages but here's the thing, those reforms will end up making it easier, not harder.
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# ? Nov 2, 2023 06:00 |
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January 6 Survivor posted:Ukraine joining the EU is a non starter anyway because of all the stuff that would need changing (anything from institution reform to road signage) to satisfy the membership requirements, and that was before the war even started. it's already a turbo neoliberalized authoritarian hellhole that does likes to do genocides, so there's really no gain for formally adopting the colony into the EU Xaris has issued a correction as of 06:06 on Nov 2, 2023 |
# ? Nov 2, 2023 06:03 |
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lol if for real https://twitter.com/CaTSnLOve4PeACe/status/1719818211951272387
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# ? Nov 2, 2023 06:05 |
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You could say the same way Ukraine was balancing between EU and Russia, Russia was balancing between EU and China. In both cases American involvement forced the decision. Turns out the real domino theory is that US involvement creates bigger and bigger conflicts.
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# ? Nov 2, 2023 06:29 |
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fizzier posted:乌克兰的坏消息 - 乌克兰总司令瓦列里·扎卢日尼将军表示,战场让他想起一个世纪前的伟大冲突。 “就像第一次世界大战一样,我们的技术水平已经达到了让我们陷入僵局的程度,”他说。 将军的结论是,需要巨大的技术飞跃才能打破僵局。 “很可能不会有深刻而美丽的突破。”
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