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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:there is no way that their doctrine really calls for armor to be screened by dismounted tank crews, you are having a go at this thread The tankers would probably drive over and gun down their own infantry if they weren't forced to take turns being the infantry
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PawParole posted:Despite basically being a US puppet state since the Ethiopian invasion put the warlords back in charge, Somalia has been the only Arab league member loyal to the three noes of Khartoum. There was a number of Somali (students?) at the solidarity gathering in Belgrade, this gives me a bit more context to it.
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Sancho Banana posted:The Knesset was voting on whether or not to allow cops to open fire on protestors with live rounds. how did that come out?
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Israel was also supposed to be a world leader in body armour but apparently they cut corners and gave old flak jackets to the reservists? Not that there’s anything wrong with that in a conventional war, but I’m deeply curious where all of the money has gone. Also, point blank range in an urban environment is the one time the weight and bulk of plates are worth it. I was reading that the troops are used to bringing folding camping chairs and poo poo with them on marches and openly lighting fires to cook on, all of which is very funny. They just recreated a Borsht Belt Jewish summer camp in uniform.
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ex post facho posted:did they rig a remote detonator to trigger the shell, or was that the rpg? domestically produced RPG-29 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/RPG-29
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Speleothing posted:The tankers would probably drive over and gun down their own infantry if they weren't forced to take turns being the infantry they probably already did that, that's why they were on weapons lock
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Sancho Banana posted:The Knesset was voting on whether or not to allow cops to open fire on protestors with live rounds. yeah but I saw a video saying settlers were shooting at Israeli protestors. guess it must have been a mistake/lie
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Al-Saqr posted:Israeli Finance Minister: We are facing unprecedented financial losses 
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Lord of Pie posted:trying to wage a war using JO crystal powered equipment in November is about the level of planning I'd expect from these schmucks they got it linked to the Final Attack materia
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they already do shoot protestors. the law is to give them medals for it
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genericnick posted:how did that come out? It got blocked, but that psycho Ben-Gvir still wants to push it through.
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Frosted Flake posted:Israel was also supposed to be a world leader in body armour but apparently they cut corners and gave old flak jackets to the reservists? it's a classic idf move to draft more reserves than you can properly equip then send them out with leftover junk. they did the same thing in Lebanon in 06.
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Speleothing posted:The tankers would probably drive over and gun down their own infantry if they weren't forced to take turns being the infantry Literally a problem in 1967 and why brigades were reorganized to include both tanks and infantry. Then, in 1973, the tanks almost always just peeled off and left the infantry behind, and the exhausted and dust choked infantry would be used against positions where the tanks failed to break through, off the march. So America gave them thousands of M113s for free, problem solved forever, I guess.
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OctaMurk posted:the fact that we have this camera footage, means this dude got out alive And this in the bushes, not the bombed out ruins of a city it appears.
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Calibanibal posted:wow holy poo poo that video of a hamas planting C4 on his jeep and then jumping out right before it crashes into an IDF tank!!!! hamas is the first force that did a bunch of training in battlefield...and it shows!
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HallelujahLee posted:rest in piss tank piss tank israel
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fits my needs posted:crazy poo poo, they still are just driving tanks around with no one outside. are the f35 helmets not working? They are not stylish 
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Maya Fey posted:unless im mistaken there's another tank right behind the one he sets the charge on and it doesn't do anything. no infantry to be seen. and then he runs back to safety behind a bush?? Looked like he had a tunnel there maybe.
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the lads are alright https://twitter.com/shaykhsulaiman/status/1720085351942025483?s=46&t=UyfxoSAUKW7QZlR_GhkuYA
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Al-Saqr posted:Al-Qassam Brigades: We carried out a counterattack in the northwestern axis of the city #غزة , during which we destroyed 6 tanks and two troop carriers. loving hell, that is 2% of their tanks in a single attack
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Frosted Flake posted:I’m deeply curious where all of the money has gone. Straight in the dumpster. The funds were either horribly mismanaged or straight up embezzled, probably a combination of the two. Reservists have been complaining since the start of the war that they don't have all the equipment they need - body armor, helmets, everything. Big donation centers got set up by civilians all over the country to get soldiers what they need because the military can't do that on its own. poo poo's hosed. Sancho Banana has issued a correction as of 20:23 on Nov 2, 2023 |
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But then the Israeli infantry refuses to ever get out of the M113s… Which was a problem in Lebanon because M113s were never designed to be fought from (thin aluminum armour)… So the Israelis put literally tonnes of armour and weapons on the M113s which made them slow and unreliable… Which made them easier targets… So the Israelis added ERA bricks… But then the infantry could get out of their M113s… Which meant they were even more vulnerable in their comically overloaded and mechanically unreliable M113s (still not designed to ever be fought from)… So the Israelis decided to use the Merkava… Which didn’t have enough room for an infantry section (and they still refused to get out anyway)… So they built Namer, a troop carrier using the hull of Merkava… Which the infantry still refuses to get out of…
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30.5 Days posted:maybe I just don't understand real life war, my expectation would be that a lieutenant colonel is not in a position to be shot at generally, but maybe that's just movie brain Jack O'Neill was a colonel and got shot at all the time by goa'uld
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Death By The Blues posted:lmao these guys are wild lol what a video. Popping out of a hole, hand delivering an explosive to a patrolling tank, boom, and back in the hole. Lmao how do you even fight this? Just the dust kicked up by the tank gave them enough cover to run up on it.
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Frosted Flake posted:But then the Israeli infantry refuses to ever get out of the M113s… russkies had it right, you gotta have the guys riding on the top of the tank. then as soon as the shooting starts, or even sooner, they'll want to jump off. not to mention giving you way more eyes for people coming out of spiderholes.
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Frosted Flake posted:But then the Israeli infantry refuses to ever get out of the M113s… They're in that in between part of that quote about how the guy couldn't get the infantry to get out of the merkavas until they saw what an rpg did to one, then he couldn't get them to go back into one
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Bear Retrieval Unit posted:tbf walking on foot sucks walking ftw
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Honky Mao posted:Yeah that poo poo is embarrassing for real very 'difficult' indeed
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Zodium posted:walking ftw
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Red Baron posted:lmao yeah you can see the one in the back, it even looks like it’s kinda facing the dude but they do nothing Yeah the idea of this kind of formation is that the tanks can strafe each other with machine guns if they get bogged down by infantry. This requires attentive gunners however
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There was a genre of American military writing from c. 1990 - 20XX where when making the case for the M2 and Stryker, specifically the decision to ride around with the infantry mounted, either using firing ports or having their heads poking out of the hatches, where the Americans were obsessed with the idea of Panzergrenadiers "fighting from their halftracks" (usually only a single battalion had halftracks, the rest had trucks) and the skill of the IDF fighting mounted. What I have come to realize is that this is a perfect example of western military writing because it's 1/2 romanticizing the Nazis and wildly exaggerating their success (and amount of mechanization) and 1/2 romanticizing Israel (and not realizing that their infantry being afraid to get out of the bus does not make the bus a war winning weapon). It was super common until some of the lustre of Stryker began to wear off.   
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