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Retro42 posted:There is far too much too many caps, trump's brain uses a different blend of boomer rear end word salad rear end emphasis and its weird you can kind of almost just tell on instinct still if you're as poisoned as i am
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Retro42 posted:So they are all gonna pass the blame until it gets to Trump where he's just going to brazenly lie his rear end off and say he didn't direct anyone to do anything. Feels like their whole legal strategy revolves around trying to convince a jury that it's "probably" not the Trump family at fault when in reality the judge who holds the power already stated they are less than trustworthy or whatever polite way Engoron said "You are all lying fucks". This may be why Engoron stating that he found that Trump is "not a reliable witness," is a big deal. If everyone passes the buck up to Trump, and the judge finds--as he has already found--Trump is not a reliable witness, well then there's your criminal intent to defraud. Also, attemping to bribe a sitting Federal judge is definitely something Trump should be charged with. Funnily enough, I'll bet such a case wouldn't fall in Cannon's jurisdiction!
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Nov 2, 2023 19:31
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VictualSquid posted:Is there a good podcast explaining and making high level fun of this stuff, like we had for the Alex Jones trial and depositions? Preet Bharata has a couple good podcasts. "Stay Tuned" and the "Cafe Insider" podcast that he hosts with Joyce Vance are both very good.
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Staluigi posted:too many caps, trump's brain uses a different blend of boomer rear end word salad rear end emphasis Not to mention there's an entire fully formed plan of action in there. Very un-trump
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If the Truth burp were real, that should be enough to remove the case from Canon’s courtroom, right?
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Nov 2, 2023 21:04
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It’s kind of funny that no one here has a Truth account to go look up if it’s real. I’m not going to be the one to open one either though.
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Nov 2, 2023 21:08
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Fork of Unknown Origins posted:It’s kind of funny that no one here has a Truth account to go look up if it’s real. Lots of journalists do so if that "Truth" was actually true I'd think it would be all over NYT and WAPO etc.
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Nov 2, 2023 21:22
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Not a lawyer so I have no idea if this is a bullshit article or not, but if its not....whew boy. https://www.salon.com/2023/11/02/le...urce=ironsource
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Fork of Unknown Origins posted:It’s kind of funny that no one here has a Truth account to go look up if it’s real. You dont need an account to read his posts, just its replies. https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1720130689545245108 "Eric Trump testified, at one point, that he had "never worked" on the Trump Org's statement of financial condition. Later, he was then shown an email sent to him by a Trump employee from 2013 telling him the employee needed information from Eric Trump to help put together his father's statement of financial condition. Asked by the AG again if he knew about the statement, Eric Trump said, "It appears that way."" https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1720128720478806371 https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1720138943365042363
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OgNar posted:
I wonder if other kids are going to start invoking the 5th.
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Cimber posted:I wonder if other kids are going to start invoking the 5th. Really doesn't help in this situation, since in civil trials judges can indeed presume the worst when someone Pleads the Fifth. Won't stop them from trying anyway and whining about how this is persecution, though!
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Kibibit posted:I would probably scratch OA from that list, due to the whole "host outed as a sexpest and creep to the point where his cohost left" thing His cohost didn't "leave", after the allegations dropped sexpest kicked him out of all their accounts, including bank account, forcing him to go to court to try to get everything back including the right to make the podcast
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Nov 2, 2023 23:01
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The best part is how Eric Trump will face zero consequences whatsoever for lying under oath because America
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https://www.cnbc.com/2023/11/02/trump-fraud-trial-ivanka-seeks-pause-in-appeal-of-order-to-testify.htmlquote:Ivanka Trump asked a New York appeals court to pause the $250 million fraud trial of her family and its business empire as she appeals a judge’s order requiring her to testify in the case next week. WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!?!
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Think of poor ivanka’s kid waiting sadly on the steps of the school, forgotten. “Where’s mama?” they’ll say, but mama’s not coming. She is in court, and there’s no one to come and get them. They’re all alone.
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There is a solid chance those kids are at boarding school.
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Also what happens when some poor SOB that isn’t an alleged multi millionaire gets summoned to court, family he damned?
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Scratch Monkey posted:Think of poor ivanka’s kid waiting sadly on the steps of the school, forgotten. “Where’s mama?” they’ll say, but mama’s not coming. She is in court, and there’s no one to come and get them. They’re all alone. This goodpost is worth preserving for posterity.
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Did anyone think of her poor kid left on the street corner when she was jetsetting around the world as a senior advisor to the President?
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perjury is for poor people. rich people get Amended Statements and A Recess To Figure poo poo Out
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KKKLIP ART posted:Also what happens when some poor SOB that isn’t an alleged multi millionaire gets summoned to court, family he damned? Why, the courts in their benificence grant whatever accomodations are possible to ensure the child's life is not disrupted any more than it inherently has to be by the court proceedings, and alleged crimes that preceded those proceedings!
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The Courts shot down Ivanka tonight. Poor girl.
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Zotix posted:The Courts shot down Ivanka tonight. Poor girl. 
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more courtroom drama focused around engoron's clerk maybe someone with actual courtroom experience can weigh-in, but this whole tangent to the civil fraud case has just been bizarre. i'm not surprised trump would make these kind of public attacks on a court staff member, but his legal team doing the same after clearly being warned by the judge seems shocking to me quote:A defense lawyer took a pointed verbal swipe at the law clerk in the Trump civil fraud trial Thursday, prompting anger from the judge, who accused the lawyer of misogyny and threatened to gag him and his colleagues. not included in the article is habba's comment that she can't be misogynist because she is a woman and thus is immune to misogyny attacks on the integrity of a judge aren't exactly great, but i see a need for defense to be able to raise those kind of concerns. choosing to focus on and publicize a basically formerly anonymous member of the judges staff as the insidious influence corrupting the judge from behind the scenes is gross, and i hope this comes back to bite kise and habba in the rear end down the road this has to be vanishingly rare right?
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Nonsense posted:
To be absolutely clear, this is fake. The person who posted it on Twitter admitted it in a reply, if you just scroll down a bit: 
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Staluigi posted:too many caps, trump's brain uses a different blend of boomer rear end word salad rear end emphasis There's too many articles. It gives the appearance of a more complete thought that isn't present in real Trump posts. Remove 75% of the articles at random and it's way more believable
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:more courtroom drama focused around engoron's clerk They have nothing to argue for an appeal, and so are now trying to create an issue to appeal. They've locked in on the clerk, because as a bunch of bullies they can tell that's what'll piss off the judge the most. The consequences they face tomorrow are irrelevant to them, because this is today and those consequences are for some future chump to deal with.
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Scratch Monkey posted:Think of poor ivanka’s kid waiting sadly on the steps of the school, forgotten. “Where’s mama?” they’ll say, but mama’s not coming. She is in court, and there’s no one to come and get them. They’re all alone. As if she ever took the time to go personally pick the kid up herself.
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:this has to be vanishingly rare right? It’s the sock full of poo poo. Don’t forget Trump had Roy Cohn as a lawyer and personal mentor for a very long time. He will hire lawyers willing to use Joe McCarthy style poo poo sock slinging. It’s not shocking it’s predictable.
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Gyges posted:They have nothing to argue for an appeal, and so are now trying to create an issue to appeal. They've locked in on the clerk, because as a bunch of bullies they can tell that's what'll piss off the judge the most. The consequences they face tomorrow are irrelevant to them, because this is today and those consequences are for some future chump to deal with. Future Kise and future Habba are dickheads and gently caress them, we have a court case to lose today
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Gyges posted:They have nothing to argue for an appeal, and so are now trying to create an issue to appeal. They've locked in on the clerk, because as a bunch of bullies they can tell that's what'll piss off the judge the most. The consequences they face tomorrow are irrelevant to them, because this is today and those consequences are for some future chump to deal with. If they do try to use this to frame an appeal I hope they arrive in the higher court to find a law clerk sitting next to the judge.
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The idea of even trying to make hay out of the law clerk performing the exact and precise duties of a law clerk is bonkers, it's like insisting something untoward is taking place because a lawyer is advocating for their client. Though I am not sure if it's an attempt to cause provide as part of a scheme, or simply trying to stay in Trump's good graces (the most generous interpretation being maybe in the hopes he'll listen to their recommendations on his testimony next week?) and knowing that he gets real upset when anyone in his employ doesn't hammer whatever inane, insane, preposterous notion has crossed the lump of sludge that passes for his mind.
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It has three "benefits" -Trump is almost certainly demanding they figuratively piss on someone -It feeds into the conspiracy theories that MAGA/Q inject straight into their veins like hydroxychloroquine -The only possible chance to "win" this poo poo is to get the judge so mad that he makes an appealable mistake or has a heart attack The down sides are of course so numerous and large that only loving charlatan idiots would do it. Which is conveniently the only legal council that Trump can/will employ.
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Yeah, I expect that this is driven by Trump. Not in a direct manner - it never is - but by him constantly "asking" his lawyers why they don't do something about this clerk. That's what he always does: try to pick out a perceived weak spot (by looking what gets a reaction) and then hit it again and again and again. That the judge has reacted to it first by angrily demanding Trump stop, then with the gag order and now by angrily demanding that Trump's lawyers stop signals to Trump that he is on the right track. We'll see if that's the case.
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quote:Kise also insisted, "I'm not a misogynist," citing as proof, "I have a 17-year-old daughter." Amazing
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Ms Adequate posted:The idea of even trying to make hay out of the law clerk performing the exact and precise duties of a law clerk is bonkers, it's like insisting something untoward is taking place because a lawyer is advocating for their client. Trump can really only find lovely moron lawyers at this point. See also an entire legal team taking plea agreements to testify on stuff they agreed to do for him in office. Trump also now views everything as a PR battle to rally supporters with and is only comfortable with Cohn-style lawyers. These are great for intimidating contractors who can't afford multiyear legal proceedings and other vulnerable parties. The government is just going to keep grinding.
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Maybe after this clerk finally winds up dead the judge will actually do anything at all about it, lol. Just incredible.
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Gyges posted:It has three "benefits" Yeah, it's this. To be fair, I cannot imagine a better way to get a judge mad than personally attacking his clerk; in a certain very dark sense, Trump's lawyers are actually doing a good job, in that they're executing the best strategy available to them competently. I guess in New York there are enough judges out there that these lawyers don't have to worry too much about ever appearing in front of that judge again. In a smaller state this would be the equivalent of torching your license to practice law in that judge's county.
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mutata posted:Maybe after this clerk finally winds up dead the judge will actually do anything at all about it, lol. Just incredible. If one of the Q crazies guns the clerk down nobody will know in his heart of hearts what motivated the lone wolf. Everyone will say it because everyone knows it, and it'll be all over every news channel, but nothing official would come from it and Trump would probably end up with a delay in his trial like he wants anyway. Gotta make sure it's a fair trial after all, just that some people's trials are more fair than others.
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