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Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

STAC Goat posted:

I’ll go a step further and say I loved it. I loved the way they took it from a decisively Catholic movie to an ecumenical film about the concept of “faith” and “religion” as the strength of community and family helping and believing in each other. They put Santeria into an Exorcist sequel.

That’s what’s so hosed up about it. There are a million movies about family! How many Catholic movies are there? Not many! And the Catholics could really use a win these days.

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Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

WHITE NOISE
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issuing correction on a previous post of mine, regarding the catholic church. you do not, under any circumstances, "gotta hand it to them".

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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Fr lmao

Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

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Just do a horror movie about catholic confirmation classes

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

Popular culture has passed you by.

Gripweed posted:

That’s what’s so hosed up about it. There are a million movies about family! How many Catholic movies are there? Not many! And the Catholics could really use a win these days.

My dear goon, can I interest you in a little movie called The Pope's Exorcist?

Django is the Pope, he is psychic. His exorcist is Russel Crowe, he is riding a tiny Vespa.

Punkin Spunkin
Jan 1, 2010
finished VHS 1 and VHS 2 and man these just represent the absolute lamest impulses in horror. how do so many otherwise creative people make something so obnoxious and tedious? why does it feel like every single one so far was written and directed by eli roth lmao

like the best one so far might be A Ride in the Park? and that's not that great anyway. it's hard to believe these get worse when the first one was already such garbage. it's such a great and easy conceit for a series and all these segments come out mostly samey and lame. like everyone just submitted their film student projects.
Time for V/H/S: Viral...maybe...I'm gonna keep hoping I get a segment that's great and doesn't just feel like a video you watch before a horror maze at Knotts Scary Farm.

Punkin Spunkin
Jan 1, 2010
Is it because of the Bloody Disgusting guy? Seriously these segments all represent the lamest tastes, instincts, and vibes in horror and I hear hes a total hack. I started viral and they're even abandoning the loosest pretense of found footage. Can't wait to get on the MAD ILLUSIONIST horror maze at Universal Studios.
The true horror of VHS is me going "wow there's no way this series could suck more, it's never even been good!" and being proven wrong continually. True masochism.

Punkin Spunkin fucked around with this message at 08:09 on Nov 3, 2023

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

Who’s the bloody disgusting guy?

Punkin Spunkin
Jan 1, 2010
My friend just mentioned that Bloody Disgusting was involved in the production of the series. Not really familiar with them as a horror site. Glad they got Nacho Vigalondo in to ask the important questions, like what if dicks and vaginas were demonic. At least this one is kinda funny. The puppets are actually kinda charming.

VROOM VROOM
Jun 8, 2005
Having a chuckle at the idea of a guy who hates every single V/H/S segment until his icy heart is melted by BONESTORM

Punkin Spunkin
Jan 1, 2010

VROOM VROOM posted:

Having a chuckle at the idea of a guy who hates every single V/H/S segment until his icy heart is melted by BONESTORM
See I looked ahead and I was excited when I saw Benson and Moorhead. Glad it's gonna be good (or is this a trap?? Is this a figurative surprise demon dick???) cuz they've already walked in a bunch of otherwise decent horror directors and writers to all make pretty samey stuff.

VROOM VROOM
Jun 8, 2005
I can assure you that BONESTORM is completely unlike anything you've ever seen from B+M

Punkin Spunkin
Jan 1, 2010

VROOM VROOM posted:

Having a chuckle at the idea of a guy who hates every single V/H/S segment until his icy heart is melted by BONESTORM
Honestly yes basically. At least it was stupid fun, and proof they have decent taste in hip hop.
"Yo do crackheads have fire blood?"

this series just being the ultimate perverted straight white guy series gets even funnier when they try to "subvert" it with cosmic justice
It's incredibly appropriate that the bad ending for this movie is all these lovely shorts being released for the general public...death by boredom and cringe.

Punkin Spunkin fucked around with this message at 09:47 on Nov 3, 2023

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

Flying Lotus does a segment in 99 but it’s nowhere near his magnum opus, Captain Murphy: Duality.

E: drat, YouTube removed the duality video, what the gently caress

ruddiger fucked around with this message at 09:59 on Nov 3, 2023

I, Butthole
Jun 30, 2007

Begin the operations of the gas chambers, gas schools, gas universities, gas libraries, gas museums, gas dance halls, and gas threads, etcetera.
I DEMAND IT

ruddiger posted:

Flying Lotus does a segment in 99 but it’s nowhere near his magnum opus, Captain Murphy: Duality.

E: drat, YouTube removed the duality video, what the gently caress

It's not like anything could be worse than Kuso

Punkin Spunkin
Jan 1, 2010
I will say I'm already enjoying 94 more than anything else in the raatma. It's funny, and them being forced to go for retro vibes means that their (or whoever was making this series suck) worst 2000s horror instincts are dulled and totally raatma'd. I'm having a raatma time with this raatma of a film.

edit:
oh that bit was made by the director of Watcher (which I enjoyed), as far as I know the first woman to get a shot at VHS, so it makes sense that we started off without complete loving cringe.

Punkin Spunkin fucked around with this message at 10:51 on Nov 3, 2023

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


Yeah the VHS franchise really hits overdrive for me once it became a Shudder original. The first 2 had good or even great (Safe Haven) segments [but Viral was complete trash], but 94, 99 and 85 each just feel so much more fun as a full film and have more good parts than not

I want to know more about their newly-announced scifi-themed one and who the directors are gonna be

Punkin Spunkin
Jan 1, 2010

Chris James 2 posted:

Yeah the VHS franchise really hits overdrive for me once it became a Shudder original.
yeah woah, 94 was such a step up for me, I'd given up hope on this series
honestly imo you can skip VHS 1, 2, and Viral, though I know some people like bits of those. Bonestorm was fun enough, A Ride in the Park was ok...and probably if I wasn't suffering so much from the experience of VHS 2 (the shorts being dangerous in-universe eye-bleeders works on another level when wading through this utter trash) I would've appreciated Safe Haven more.

huh
Jan 23, 2004

Dinosaur Gum
To answer a question from a few pages back, yes I get scared! There was a scene I think in REC where someone pokes their head up into an attic or something and looks around with a torch - I literally closed my eyes because I couldn't stand it. Anytime there's a creepy door or something that might have someone/thing behind it or a hallway corner I get tense and anxious. The new Hell House movie is a great example. I hate it but love it at the same time. I am very lucky.

The 7th Guest
Dec 17, 2003

Hell House 4 is… fine but not spectacular. It keeps things simple with a small cast, which I like, but its oscillations into the trashy realm dip REALLY deep. the “sloth” joke was so painfully bad, and some of the overwrought stuff (especially the final photograph) works in terms of being a parody of Netflix true crime documentaries but it really did make me question whether the people making the film were actually trying to make something genuine or if they were solely taking the piss. bc if they were, they didn’t go far enough

e: honesty it’s not that great because it is so by the numbers that the framing device can’t save it, but I give it points for a couple of story decisions and also not being too complicated. Deadstream continues to be the only film that accurately represents a Youtuber in a horror situation though. Too many found footage films seem to think vlogging is still all the rage, rather than video essay or react content

The 7th Guest fucked around with this message at 13:35 on Nov 3, 2023

flashy_mcflash
Feb 7, 2011

Late to the party but I finally watched It Lives Inside and thought it was really great. It's got a lot of stuff that pushed my buttons specifically but in the end felt like it could have been developed a little better, in a lot of the same ways as Talk To Me. Still a fun watch though.

The Hausu Usher
Feb 9, 2010

:spooky:
Screaming is the only useful thing that we can do.

Punkin Spunkin posted:

finished VHS 1 and VHS 2 and man these just represent the absolute lamest impulses in horror. how do so many otherwise creative people make something so obnoxious and tedious? why does it feel like every single one so far was written and directed by eli roth lmao

like the best one so far might be A Ride in the Park? and that's not that great anyway. it's hard to believe these get worse when the first one was already such garbage. it's such a great and easy conceit for a series and all these segments come out mostly samey and lame. like everyone just submitted their film student projects.
Time for V/H/S: Viral...maybe...I'm gonna keep hoping I get a segment that's great and doesn't just feel like a video you watch before a horror maze at Knotts Scary Farm.

The first VHS has some ups and downs, but at least in 2012 it felt fresh, weird and dangerous. It felt, to me anyway, like a kind of a proto-Scumbag left with a new morality tale (all men are trash, which is true) and wasn't too timid or scared to go full out horror fantasy. This was in a post-horror kind of landscape where a lot of movies seemed to be apologetic for being what they were, a lot of horror had winks and nods, excuses, tongues in cheek (if it wasn't a cash cow remake or just lovely torture porn, ahem, Eli Roth). It might be hard to remember what the landscape of horror was like in the early-2010's, but outside of a couple gems, it mainly sucked. Cabin in the Woods kind of summed it up and felt like a call to arms to let's get nuts.

VHS was just unapologetic about doing weird Horror poo poo and I really clicked with it. I think it has a chapter in the evolution of horror, but, you maybe had to see it at the time? I'm probably due a rewatch in order to argue my case more clearly.

The sequels have creeped back to being "Fun©" and a little bit cynical, which is why I don't really like them as much.

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

WHITE NOISE
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Speaking of all men being trash my office watched Scream for our Halloween party this year and the running theme of "every man is incompetent and most are also terrible people" was really apparent this time.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

VHS probably justifies itself as a franchise if just for all the success the directors from the early films have had. The segments can be hit and mess and I wasn’t a fan of this most recent one. But they’ve consistently given exposure to talented creators who are often a bit off the beaten path.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours
There isn't a single sequence from the first 3 V/H/S movies that seem anything like Eli Roth.

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

Top Class!

FreudianSlippers posted:

Old creaky manisons are overdone for haunted houses.

Wanna see more ghost films set in old decaying social housing or brand new apartment blocks that are somehow already crumbling because the contractor cut so many corners. Or heck a ghost story set in a trendy Tiny House, maybe the tiny house is coincidentally built on the site of a hanging tree or something.

There's a few of these, but I really like tye idea of "council estate horror". I think one reason the Enfield haunting (and inspired works like Ghostwatch and The Conjuring 2) resonated so much was it was just some regular, or even poor, person's house. The Conjuring 2 did some weird things, though, like add a basement.

Under the Shadow always strikes me as having a really unique setting.

dorium posted:

there's something in that performance that you can only get once you've recognized your own shortcomings because that pain is coming out of somewhere deep. there's acting, but then there's 'acting' and she was wrenching on something in there was rough. like maybe it only works if you have ever put what you believe is your entire being into something and get nothing back on it on return. its like someone pulling your guts out slowly.

https://x.com/_Art_The_Clown_/status/1719989896457175445?s=20
If you missed the Terrifier 2 screening here's the Terrifier 3 teaser.

I saw Pearl very recently and agree with all of this, and didn't know that it was a prequel to X. I think X is pretty good, but the riff on Texas Chainsaw Massacre is a pretty crowded market. Pearl was a real step above, great film.

The Hausu Usher posted:

It might be hard to remember what the landscape of horror was like in the early-2010's, but outside of a couple gems, it mainly sucked. Cabin in the Woods kind of summed it up and felt like a call to arms to let's get nuts.

Yeah, I'd checked out and was only really watching stuff from the 70s and Giallo and stuff until It Follows and The VVitch made me take notice again. I'd burned out on zombies and There were a couple of gems - [Rec] comes to mind, despite being found footage AND zombies.

Cabin in the Woods is interesting, because it came out about 3 years after originally intended and is a bit closer to the resurgence in horror we got in the last decade. I liked it a lot, but I've never been sure if Whedon gets horror despite Buffy being an important work. He would cite this idea of inverting the idea of a blonde cheerleader running screaming down an alley, but what exactly was he watching?

Disco Pope fucked around with this message at 15:39 on Nov 3, 2023

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

There isn't a single sequence from the first 3 V/H/S movies that seem anything like Eli Roth.

For real. Eli Roth wishes he could top even Wingard’s eye short which is probably the lamest from the first two

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

Baron von Eevl posted:

Speaking of all men being trash my office watched Scream for our Halloween party this year and the running theme of "every man is incompetent and most are also terrible people" was really apparent this time.
I recently watched Silent Madness and the running theme of the movie was basically that men aren't evil, just incredibly stupid and lazy. The protagonist is a female psychologist trying to catch an escaped madman, but she's up against a "conspiracy" of men who are just trying to cover their asses.

Dragonshirt
Oct 28, 2010

a sight for sore eyes
Nevermind.

Dragonshirt fucked around with this message at 16:24 on Nov 3, 2023

best bale
Jul 4, 2007



Lipstick Apathy

I mean, they’re not wrong. Up until very recently majority of mainstream horror (and overall media) were made by white dudes for white dudes

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
I finally saw Terrifier 2 and it rules.

I try to stay away from glib interpretations, but there's some kind of metaphorical relationship between Art and Sienna's abusive dad, right? The whipping scene is pretty on-the-nose (honk honk).

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Yeah I dunno what taking a bunch of contextless quotes to imply something you’re not willing to say out loud proves. And the VHS series sort of IS “pervy white guys get cosmic justice”. And horror is insanely white dude. So what’s the problem?

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

WHITE NOISE
GENERATOR

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What a bad loving post, jeezy creezy

Skrillmub
Nov 22, 2007


Halloween Jack posted:

I finally saw Terrifier 2 and it rules.

I try to stay away from glib interpretations, but there's some kind of metaphorical relationship between Art and Sienna's abusive dad, right? The whipping scene is pretty on-the-nose (honk honk).

I don't remember Sienna's dad being called abusive. He committed suicide and was up to something strange at the end of his life. I thought it was implied he had somehow found out about Art and whatever thing he is.
Didn't her dad set it up for her to get that sword?

WeaponX
Jul 28, 2008



HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

There isn't a single sequence from the first 3 V/H/S movies that seem anything like Eli Roth.

Yeah I don’t get that criticism at all

Gyro Zeppeli
Jul 19, 2012

sure hope no-one throws me off a bridge

The Royal Hotel is a pretty dang good new Aussie thriller, real tense and nervy. Turns out the real horror is existing as a woman.

Thank god Australia's not real.

Splint Chesthair
Dec 27, 2004


Disco Pope posted:

I saw Pearl very recently and agree with all of this, and didn't know that it was a prequel to X. I think X is pretty good, but the riff on Texas Chainsaw Massacre is a pretty crowded market. Pearl was a real step above, great film.

I said it in the October Challenge thread, but Pearl felt like the movie West/Goth wanted to make all along, and X was just the backdoor pilot for it. X is a Texas Chain Saw pastiche with a touch of wistfulness, but Pearl is something else altogether.

PriorMarcus
Oct 17, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT BEING ALLERGIC TO POSITIVITY

Gyro Zeppeli posted:

The Royal Hotel is a pretty dang good new Aussie thriller, real tense and nervy. Turns out the real horror is existing as a woman.

Thank god Australia's not real.

The documentary it's adapting is ever more harrowing.

Gyro Zeppeli
Jul 19, 2012

sure hope no-one throws me off a bridge

PriorMarcus posted:

The documentary it's adapting is ever more harrowing.

Yeah, I saw that it was based on a documentary in the end credits and god, the movie was rough enough, I don't need to see the real version.

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weekly font
Dec 1, 2004


Everytime I try to fly I fall
Without my wings
I feel so small
Guess I need you baby...



8one6 posted:

Stephen King longs for the days when movies had 5-10 minute scenes of people driving silently.

Not wrong. His approved made for TV Shining is full of long takes of Steve Weber doing routine maintenance.

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