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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Because someone else upthread said exactly that Basically, yes, that is how it works. The first few lower ranks of commissioned officer are almost entirely automatic, nobody looks at them it just goes "In service for X amount of time, did you gently caress up Y/N?" The next few ranks into the middle-to-middle-high-ish ranks get some review. When you're promoting a few hundred to thousand officers the branches internally determine what kind of staffing needs they have and where and at which ranks, puts together that package, has their version of human resources look at the personnel landscape and people are selected to fill those ranks based on a given set of criteria. Either of the two lists formed above are then handed to the president as recommendations from within the branches. Unless something weird comes up the entire batch is signed off on at the presiden't desk, the forms are sent to congress and signed off on with whatever arcane rituals go on in there, I don't even pretend to know, and then word comes down to the personnel that "You now have X rank per these orders". The higher-to-top end of the rank scales are all political and I genuinely have no idea what exactly happens there.
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Whoops whatever It's typically not in a practical sense. 99% of these promotions get done via unanimous consent in a big pile. The bigger ones get hearings and such. It's always been the Senates job to handle these, just it's been a non-issue until recent years. What Tuberville is doing is basically forcing the Senate to shut down all other business so it can spend a few hours on EVERY SINGLE promotion or have them all sit unapproved.
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Nov 3, 2023 17:14
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Combed Thunderclap posted:Tuberville’s stunt does reveal just how much power the Senate, and a single Senator, has over the civil and military service. (Actually - since Dems have 51 Senators, I'm kind of confused as to why Schumer hasn't done this? Would Sinema and Manchin not allow a rules change to let these promotions through?)
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Nov 3, 2023 18:01
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Misunderstood posted:It does. But it's may very well also end up revealing how much Senate rules are made up, extraconstitutional BS and how a majority can overturn them at any time. Because they're probably gonna do that pretty soon. Probably because he doesn't have the votes and it's great politics for the Democrats to highlight how bad the Republicans are so he has no motivation to push on it.
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Nov 3, 2023 18:25
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Tuberville is legitimately incredibly dumb. I think writing it off as just "incredibly dumb" is underestimating it. There's been a rapidly growing trend in modern US politics where extremists who don't have the seats or influence to get what they want try to make up for that by trying to tack their entire loving wishlist onto every must-pass bill, and then doing everything they can to block those bills unless they get a good chunk of what they want. It's a trend that was started by Gingrich back in the 90s, of course, but he was actually a leadership figure in the GOP and was able to recruit healthy chunks of the party to support his extremism. The new generation of Republican extremists saw Newt's behavior as an inspiration and thought that the GOP should be doing all that stuff all the time, and that - combined with increasingly thin margins in Congress - led to poo poo like Gaetz and his tiny posse ousting a Speaker over a clean CR. Tuberville's behavior comes from a similar perspective - he's identified a way to obstruct something important, and insists on continuing to obstruct until he gets what he wants, because why not? It's not like he cares whether any of the other senators like him, as long as he gets the concessions he demands. It's short-sighted, but that's just part of the breakdown of American political institutions.
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Nov 3, 2023 18:28
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Misunderstood posted:It does. But it's may very well also end up revealing how much Senate rules are made up, extraconstitutional BS and how a majority can overturn them at any time. Because they're probably gonna do that pretty soon. Because that would require changing the rules for "unanimous consent," which is generally speaking a good thing that no one wants to change, or changing the rules for the filibuster, which they will not get enough votes for. Tuberville isn't technically blocking anything, he's just making it take forever
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Blue Footed Booby posted:Could you quote this post, please? I'm trying to figure out what jargon needs to be explained because I definitely did not see someone literally use "grunt level." Not the OP, just a lurker, but I think this was the source: Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Usually, the Senate just agrees by unanimous consent to waive debate for all nominees that are just grunts getting promotions and just hold hearings/debates for the few top promotions (Chief of Staff of the Army/Navy/Air Force, Joint Chief, etc.)
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wizzardstaff posted:Not the OP, just a lurker, but I think this was the source: Yeah, it's not literal grunts as in enlisted men. But, things like promotions to Major for commissioned officers that are the people who do all of the grunt work in management and administration. They aren't people like the Joint Chiefs of Staff or anyone who is making policy decisions. That is why punishing them doesn't really make any sense. The votes are for things like this: quote:THE FOLLOWING NAMED OFFICERS FOR APPOINTMENT TO THE GRADE INDICATED IN THE UNITED STATES SPACE FORCE UNDER TITLE 10, U.S.C., SECTION 624: These are the promotions that are getting held up. You're talking about people being named Captain who are 8 to 10 ranks below any position where they would be setting policy: 
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Much like the rest of the nation, I have been incredibly excited to ignore the upcoming Governor's race in Mississippi, but I just learned that the Democratic candidate is Elvis Presley's cousin, has raised 3x as much money as the incumbent Republican governor, and is running his entire campaign with an Elvis theme - including advocating for Medicaid expansion via Elvis puns. He is most likely not going to be unable to overcome the R+51 tilt of Mississippi and I'm not sure why people are giving him so much money, but this is impressive commitment to the bit. https://twitter.com/BrandonPresley/status/1720497506696491270 Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 20:53 on Nov 3, 2023 |
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Nov 3, 2023 20:44
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The Supreme Court agreed to take up a lawsuit against a federal ban on ‘bump stocks’ that was passed in 2019. This was, I believe, the only real gun restriction passed in the wake of the Parkland shooting. https://twitter.com/kimberlyrobinsn/status/1720498572716634451?s=46&t=BHs6Pl38GJXGN2Y4xeriNA Based on the court’s ruling a couple of years ago that narrowed the scope of ‘allowed’ gun regulation to nearly zero, I imagine they are going to throw this out as well.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Much like the rest of the nation, I have been incredibly excited to ignore the upcoming Governor's race in Mississippi, but I just learned that the Democratic candidate is Elvis Presley's cousin, has raised 3x as much money as the incumbent Republican governor, and is running his entire campaign with an Elvis theme - including advocating for Medicaid expansion via Elvis puns. Presumably a mixture of "for the lulz" and because people saw the extremely dire capaign run for Louisana governer and thought they'd at least *try* this time.
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FlamingLiberal posted:The Supreme Court agreed to take up a lawsuit against a federal ban on ‘bump stocks’ that was passed in 2019. This was, I believe, the only real gun restriction passed in the wake of the Parkland shooting. just a quibble, but i believe it was a response to the absolutely horrific casualty figures that came out of the las vegas festival shooting, the old guy holed up in the hotel room had bump stocks on some of the guns which allowed him to more efficiently hose down the festival grounds with continuous fire
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Bump stocks are the one thing that even conservatives should agree on banning. They're literally only useful for spraying bullets into a crowd of people. We live in hell though so of course it will be overturned.
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Misunderstood posted:(Actually - since Dems have 51 Senators, I'm kind of confused as to why Schumer hasn't done this? Would Sinema and Manchin not allow a rules change to let these promotions through?) This kind of rules change needs 60 senators. I believe Sinema has indicated she’s in favor of the change. They also might actually be able to scrape together the 9 Republicans if this continues.
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Combed Thunderclap posted:This kind of rules change needs 60 senators. I believe Sinema has indicated she’s in favor of the change. They also might actually be able to scrape together the 9 Republicans if this continues. Well, to be clear anything that the constitution doesn't say requires a supermajority, only needs 50+1. But its easier to just assume the nuclear option won't be used unless a lot of senators in leadership positions start discussing whether or not to use it.
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:just a quibble, but i believe it was a response to the absolutely horrific casualty figures that came out of the las vegas festival shooting, the old guy holed up in the hotel room had bump stocks on some of the guns which allowed him to more efficiently hose down the festival grounds with continuous fire
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FlamingLiberal posted:It may be, but we have so many mass shootings I honestly can’t keep track anymore fair enough, but the vegas festival shooting almost stands out in my mind as much as sandy hook. nearly 500 people dead or injured in an evening by one old man, and nothing beyond some regulation on bump stocks. within a year it felt like it had already melted into the mist, it made me feel like i was insane
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FlamingLiberal posted:It may be, but we have so many mass shootings I honestly can’t keep track anymore It’s not a maybe, it is. Vegas 2017 is literally the deadliest mass shooting in US history. Bump stocks were a huge thing in the aftermath. Sorry for your memory. And god bless the second amendment for rolling back all progress.
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:fair enough, but the vegas festival shooting almost stands out in my mind as much as sandy hook. nearly 500 people dead or injured in an evening by one old man, and nothing beyond some regulation on bump stocks. within a year it felt like it had already melted into the mist, it made me feel like i was insane Ain’t no way they never found a motive for that guy.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Tuberville is legitimately incredibly dumb. Alabama would rather have some football coach moron than the actual serious politician they had briefly on the whole technicality of Roy Moore being a sex offender allowing a Democrat to sneak in. Probably the best representation Alabama got in the Senate in decades for those two years I would imagine.
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I'd argue a population of people willing to elect someone as loving stupid as Tuberville are fantastically represented
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Misunderstood posted:Tuberville has basically discredited his whole profession. People went around thinking college football coaches were smart because they draw a bunch of X's and O's but now we know for sure they just throw shady off-the-books money at the biggest, fastest poor kids and then yell at them until they win a championship. He was a poo poo football coach. We all knew he was a dipshit then.
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Tiny Timbs posted:Ain’t no way they never found a motive for that guy. Could've sworn they did, but it got glossed over and memory-holed because it was unsurprisingly a bunch of pro-Trump based fuckery, which means it had to be a lone wolf false flag and absolutely not indicative of anything whatsoever.
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the_steve posted:Could've sworn they did, but it got glossed over and memory-holed because it was unsurprisingly a bunch of pro-Trump based fuckery, which means it had to be a lone wolf false flag and absolutely not indicative of anything whatsoever. From everything released he wasn't a particularly political guy, and all we know about his interests and complaints were gambling and how casinos treat high rollers these days. They weren't confident enough to name that as his specific motives. https://apnews.com/article/las-vegas-shooter-9bbd180cf3aa6d3ea1a37bbfb7144ae1 But, yeah it got memory holed mostly because it didn't really line up with anyone's narratives. The easiest picture to paint is "Grill guy meme but he's pulling a slot machine lever."
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Paddock's money was also dwindling due to the compulsive gambling, so that may also have been a factor.
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The weirdest part of the Vegas shooter incident was the police interview immediately afterward where the chief of police or whatever opened by nearly screaming there was nothing more the police could do because their gear was heavy and they had to take the stairs. No one had asked a question or knew what had even happened.
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Apparently America weighs Biden's age and probably early onset Alzheimer's but comparatively benign nature and Trump's insurrectionist grievance politics, criminal indictments and probably early onset Alzheimer's as roughly about equal according to recent polls. Like not that Biden is ever going to be remembered as anything other than a mediocre president, but I'd rather something resembling an actual president with policies beyond revenge obviously. The electorate just seems to have completely lost the plot on that end.
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Isn't Biden like objectively the most left wing president since probably FDR (which is not saying much, but still)
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Bwee posted:Isn't Biden like objectively the most left wing president since probably FDR (which is not saying much, but still) No, that's just the propaganda narrative that gets peddled to manufacture support for him. Just his supporters hoping that if they insist it frequently enough that everyone will just accept it as fact.
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Kale posted:Apparently America weighs Biden's age and probably early onset Alzheimer's but comparatively benign nature and Trump's insurrectionist grievance politics, criminal indictments and probably early onset Alzheimer's as roughly about equal according to recent polls. Like not that Biden is ever going to be remembered as anything other than a mediocre president, but I'd rather something resembling an actual president with policies beyond revenge obviously. The electorate just seems to have completely lost the plot on that end. Is it really early onset if they are in their 70s?
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Kale posted:Apparently America weighs Biden's age and probably early onset Alzheimer's but comparatively benign nature and Trump's insurrectionist grievance politics, criminal indictments and probably early onset Alzheimer's as roughly about equal according to recent polls. Like not that Biden is ever going to be remembered as anything other than a mediocre president, but I'd rather something resembling an actual president with policies beyond revenge obviously. The electorate just seems to have completely lost the plot on that end. I got a little criticized for this before, but I think the combination of inflation and the effects of interest rates is a big drag on Biden. He's in the hot seat now and he gets the blame whether or not that's totally warranted. I don't think it's losing the plot as much as Biden having to pay for the struggles people are going through. Whatever matters to the Paul Krugmans of the world as they tell you the big picture isn't necessarily going to help everyday voters with big grievances. Also, who knows what kind of harmful bleeding the balancing act he is trying to pull with Israel is going to cause come 2024. Maybe it'll have faded enough or maybe everyone will still be really pissed off. I know anecdotes are pretty worthless, but I have noticed a lot of Jewish people in my circles talking about feeling betrayed by "Democrats" and the "left wing" so, I'm not feeling great. The Democrats in NY already paid a price in 2022 for doing the right thing about the horrible Orthodox-run schools.
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Squibbles posted:Is it really early onset if they are in their 70s? This is my question. It isn't "early" if they're eligible for social security.
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Bwee posted:Isn't Biden like objectively the most left wing president since probably FDR (which is not saying much, but still) Since Carter arguably but that's faint praise.
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Eric Cantonese posted:
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Yeah I'm in a few Jewish circles through friends/family and the general consensus is trying to decide whether to cut funding to Dem politicians but still vote, abstain from the vote entirely, or switch to Republican. Considering the margins we need for 2024, I'm not very optimistic frankly.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:2023: The year that Super Gonorrhea became a real thing. Well, that's it, wrap it up folks
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Squibbles posted:Is it really early onset if they are in their 70s? No. Also it’s probably not alzheimers, given his presentation and what we know about his medical history.
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