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Its amazing the condescension that is happening here, whilst we are talking about white supremacy and the destruction/nullification of self determination of West Asia and global south and what I am assuming is a white guy telling a West Asian person in this thread. Yea sure it sucks that we live in a singular empire where that world power is truly evil, but like to say to brown people/POC why bother to change cause the west will destroy whatever chance of freedom and progress its insulting and degrading. Hate that poo poo.
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Orbis Tertius posted:I wish
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They’ll reach al-Shifa tonight I recon and I wouldn’t be surprised if they gun down everyone inside
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Al-Saqr posted:i didnt say anything about the nature of assad or the opposition, im saying that the arab regimes are going to do to us what assad did, destroy the country and drown it in blood rather than compromise on even the smallest steps towards reform. Sudan has more to do with the baggaras and the Messeriya deciding to fight all the other tribes in the country. If anything the military junta is the sane one there, which isn’t that hard considering the RSF are idiots and lunatics.
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https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news...fb-edfee9ed0000 Germany gonna apologize
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wow the G7 are meeting and all agree with each other that they're nazis and evil what a shock!
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Realizing that the sheer majority of nazi germans got off scots free and went on to teach their children "welp, they got us for the jews" and coached them on the next target.
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6th list of foreigners allowed to leave Gaza came out today. Brazilians still not allowed out, despite the fact that the Israeli foreign minister had promised Brazil that they'd be let out by Wednesday. 4100 people allowed to leave, but no Brazilians yet.
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Frosted Flake posted:You're right, that's what all the lit says, I was just wondering about people with firsthand experience signing off on this. I don't think you really can put South Africa on the same "small" country list as Israel. I guess Sweden should count though.
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Is there any chance of protests in Egypt forcing the gov to act? While all the elites may be sickos in thrall to the West there seems to be plenty of pro Palestine views among the general populace and the gov doesn't seem so strong that they can ignore all of it forever. Compared to the other countries Egypt could flip this situation so quickly for the Palestinians. The border is right there!
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FuzzySlippers posted:Is there any chance of protests in Egypt forcing the gov to act? While all the elites may be sickos in thrall to the West there seems to be plenty of pro Palestine views among the general populace and the gov doesn't seem so strong that they can ignore all of it forever. Sisi allowed protests in the beginning that quickly spun out of control for him so he activated his riot police to put down all protest and just yesterday jailed the most popular opposition candidate. sadly it looks like the egyptian police state has things on lockdown.
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Canned Sunshine posted:National Socialism with Israeli Characteristics
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:I can't believe you're still incapable of connecting the dots and seeing that the moderates that Assad and the Syrian state put down would have been the exact running dogs you're railing against in other Arab states. If there's one thing you can't say of Assad it's that he's in the orbit of the US and Israel. I mean, so was Assad. But I guess hosting the last Russian base outside the former USSR gets your name put on a list, no matter how many fingernails you pulled off for freedom
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joepinetree posted:6th list of foreigners allowed to leave Gaza came out today. Brazilians still not allowed out, despite the fact that the Israeli foreign minister had promised Brazil that they'd be let out by Wednesday. 4100 people allowed to leave, but no Brazilians yet. how does israel control who uses the Rafah crossing and why do they get any say?
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Mokotow posted:how does israel control who uses the Rafah crossing and why do they get any say? Sadat sold out to the Americans basically
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eyewitnesses saying to Al Jazeera that Zionist vehicles where seen 700 metres from Al Shifa hospital, they are getting closer.
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Death By The Blues posted:eyewitnesses saying to Al Jazeera that Zionist vehicles where seen 700 metres from Al Shifa hospital, they are getting closer. get ready for a giant warcrime and faked pictures of tunnel entrances and pictures of scalpels proving that hamas had weapons
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lol id forgotten about jewdas they were the guys used by the degenerate british ruling class media to ratfuck corbyn. and now these worthless shits are in the tank for the genocide of gaza. and the worthless coward sir kier starmer is completely unable to make himself a viable alternative to a party that is in the 20% approval ratingWilla Rogers posted:It's hard to convey how everyone 50 & up was raised with pro-Israel propaganda, at least in my neck of the woods. I have friends whose parents were in the camps, which had a lot to do with it, but there was also just an incredible pro-Israel slant to everything, just as there is now. It really feels there is distinctions especially in the eras. In the immediate aftermath of the end of the cold war, during the End of History, during Bush I and Clinton, there was a sense that the Palestinian issue could be resolved in their lifetimes. There was sympathy, especially in the wake of the end of South African apartheid and the Good Friday Agreement in Northern Ireland. But then History started again when 9/11 happened. Whether or not Bush Knew was irrelevant, every psychotic drooling conservative and liberal hawk was down for civilizational war with the Middle East, and that included Palestine. Everyone steeped in the War on Terror discourse was now committed to demonizing everyone in the Middle East except Israel, who could distinguish themselves as loyal allies through their oppression of the Palestinians. There are two strains of non-jewish Zionism. There is the evangelical version that everyone has heard of, where the Temple needs to be built then destroyed in order to usher in the eschaton. I'm not convinced that this strain is that relevant these days, they were more relevant in the Bush II era when evangelicals were in control, and they did get a big win with Trump moving the embassy to occupied Jerusalem. Then there is the other, more common secular non-jewish strain of zionism that I find more deranged. It is for fat gen Xers who would never pass basic, but still desire the urges of being a settler. They missed out on being a yeoman farmer/settler, but they still desire to be strong and powerful and vital, carving terra nullius into civilization. Think Ben Shapiro's quote about arabs living in sewage while jews build. Never mind that Palestinians build and farm and trade like everyone else in the Levant. This group forms the real bedrock of zionism in America.
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https://x.com/still_oppressed/status/1721613525720994261?s=20 I guess random evangelical cowboys are more likely to help than birthright people
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ah the levant, land of endless fields and grazing cattle
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Elden Lord Godfrey posted:lol id forgotten about jewdas they were the guys used by the degenerate british ruling class media to ratfuck corbyn. and now these worthless shits are in the tank for the genocide of gaza. and the worthless coward sir kier starmer is completely unable to make himself a viable alternative to a party that is in the 20% approval rating No not jewdas theyre unironically good, and re corbyn had him over for passover during the height of the ratfucking. That was the Board of Deputies of British Jews. Rigged Death Trap has issued a correction as of 11:01 on Nov 8, 2023 |
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it looks like the israelis are making a desperate attempt to secure some sort of 'victory' like beelining it straight to a hospital to kill people before their dogs in riyadh do their arab summit horseshit to try and defang hamas. By the way, them making it to Shifaa hospital has no value to them beyond war crimes and genocide, they are not winning the main point of the battle which is the military battle, Hamas's infrastructure and fighing strength are all underground and completely operating at full capacity even now. Their missile strikes are still operating at a normal pace and they're achieving really good kill numbers that havent slown down at all. Al-Saqr has issued a correction as of 11:13 on Nov 8, 2023 |
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Isn't like half the point of the tunnels that they don't have a single consolidated hq that can be removed and shut down their resistance? Let alone under the biggest Israeli bomb magnet
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Adenoid Dan posted:Isn't like half the point of the tunnels that they don't have a single consolidated hq that can be removed and shut down their resistance? the lack of a single consolidated HQ never stopped the United States from bombing all of Cambodia and Laos trying to hunt one down
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the goal I would guess is to use the current situation, where they can still bomb indiscriminately with the implicit backing of the USA, to make Gaza as uninhabitable as possible, so as to be more easily cleansed after the fighting stops. equal parts nazi and naive Orbis Tertius has issued a correction as of 11:31 on Nov 8, 2023 |
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Al-Saqr posted:yeah I've been watching aljazeera for an hour now and there's no mention of them being within 700 metres from al-shifaa hospital, and the life footage from there seems like the usual horror but no immediate panic. Itd be wise to check AJ on any major claim like that. While they may not catch everything anything that big would be immediately reported on. Rigged Death Trap has issued a correction as of 11:34 on Nov 8, 2023 |
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We are coping with the direct rise of national socialism. 0wns.
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Orbis Tertius posted:the goal I would guess is to use the current situation, where they can still bomb indiscriminately with the implicit backing of the USA, to make Gaza as uninhabitable as possible, so as to be more easily cleansed after the fighting stops. Wasn't there a quote about how they planned to make it a place where no human can survive, or something like that? They haven't been hiding it and I think gave a quota of what percent of the buildings in Gaza they were going to destroy. It doesn't matter that there's no way to square that with only targeting military targets because nobody will even call them on it let alone do anything about it.
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Lol imagine being white or western and calling yourself civilized after this. there's no coming back from this PR wise.
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Al-Saqr posted:Lol imagine being white or western and calling yourself civilized after this. there's no coming back from this PR wise. 
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FuzzySlippers posted:Is there any chance of protests in Egypt forcing the gov to act? While all the elites may be sickos in thrall to the West there seems to be plenty of pro Palestine views among the general populace and the gov doesn't seem so strong that they can ignore all of it forever. 
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DelilahFlowers posted:Realizing that the sheer majority of nazi germans got off scots free and went on to teach their children "welp, they got us for the jews" and coached them on the next target. "their children", meaning, "the Western establishment", right? https://cpcml.ca/itn220328-tmld-art4/ I'm coming to the conclusion that most of what I was taught about how "The ME is complicated and it goes back to tribal warfare about Jehovah and poo poo" is just abject bullshit and the truth is "nearly every material, political and military problem that currently exists in the ME was the result of a deliberate post-war construction by the West, which was violent and fascist from its onset, and of which the current genocide is just a feature".
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FuzzySlippers posted:Is there any chance of protests in Egypt forcing the gov to act? While all the elites may be sickos in thrall to the West there seems to be plenty of pro Palestine views among the general populace and the gov doesn't seem so strong that they can ignore all of it forever. oh they'll act by slaughtering egyptian civilians in the streets like they did in 2013 while overthrowing, with the full support of barack hussein obama, the democratically elected muslim brotherhood government BEAR GRYLLZ has issued a correction as of 12:20 on Nov 8, 2023 |
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DelilahFlowers posted:Realizing that the sheer majority of nazi germans got off scots free and went on to teach their children "welp, they got us for the jews" and coached them on the next target. it's actually funny because education was strictly anti-nazi in germany in the post war years, until kids started growing up and thinking "hey, daddy/grandpa was kinda political during the war huh??" and then a bunch of nazis that walked free after the war started getting mysteriously murdered the ruling class, however, never got reshuffled lmfao
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Good to see Israel confirm what most thinking people already suspected. The October 7th deaths were military and Israel exaggerated the civilian aspect to justify their genocide of Gaza. DTI
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Al-Saqr posted:Lol imagine being white or western and calling yourself civilized after this. there's no coming back from this PR wise. The western civilizational prohibition on critical self-reflection makes the reality of mask-off occidental barbarism easy to live with for citizens of the 4th reich
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