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Zodium
Jun 19, 2004

Puppy Burner posted:

Cyclonopedia is simultaneously one of my favourite novels and also entirely non-fiction.

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Pulcinella
Feb 15, 2019
Probation
Can't post for 5 days!

uber_stoat posted:

i've had that book on my list for a long rear end time, should probably read it.
gently caress I knew there was something I forgot to read for spooky season.


Puppy Burner posted:

Oil is a Cthulhu and touching its body has tainted you irreversibly with madness.

fr0id posted:

oil as a conscious entity set to destroy the world for reawakening it rules. blah blah physics are just how it works but that counts for brains. At some point far enough back there is a decision or at least fluke of chance made to make this happen.

When you think about it, knowing that coal, oil, and other fossil fuels are the remains of life from long ago, how could burning it NOT be bad?! Desecrating the remains of trillions of life forms, burning away all the energy and experiences their bodies had stored, opening the entropy floodgates, wiping out any proof of their existence. Thats all bound to release a lot of bad juju into the world (physically embodied as too much CO₂).

We are destroying the biggest necropolis in the known universe. So much bad vibes it's surprising that the universe doesn't just spontaneously allow for the existence of skeletons, zombies, and vengeful spirits.
:350: :skeltal:

Pulcinella has issued a correction as of 00:07 on Nov 4, 2023

RandolphCarter
Jul 30, 2005



gone what was it?

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

RandolphCarter posted:

gone what was it?

Speculation that a very large bomb dropped some years ago was a low yield nuclear device

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




gradenko_2000 posted:

Speculation that a very large bomb dropped some years ago was a low yield nuclear device

where? when?

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008


in Yemen by Israel dunno when

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




yikes

RandolphCarter
Jul 30, 2005


drat

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

Pulcinella posted:

gently caress I knew there was something I forgot to read for spooky season.



When you think about it, knowing that coal, oil, and other fossil fuels are the remains of life from long ago, how could burning it NOT be bad?! Desecrating the remains of trillions of life forms, burning away all the energy and experiences their bodies had stored, opening the entropy floodgates, wiping out any proof of their existence. Thats all bound to release a lot of bad juju into the world (physically embodied as too much CO₂).

We are destroying the biggest necropolis in the known universe. So much bad vibes it's surprising that the universe doesn't just spontaneously allow for the existence of skeletons, zombies, and vengeful spirits.
:350: :skeltal:

death stranding is pretty much a climate change allegory centered on exactly this

Dokapon Findom
Dec 5, 2022

They hated Futanari because His posts were shit.

Pulcinella posted:

gently caress I knew there was something I forgot to read for spooky season.



When you think about it, knowing that coal, oil, and other fossil fuels are the remains of life from long ago, how could burning it NOT be bad?! Desecrating the remains of trillions of life forms, burning away all the energy and experiences their bodies had stored, opening the entropy floodgates, wiping out any proof of their existence. Thats all bound to release a lot of bad juju into the world (physically embodied as too much CO₂).

We are destroying the biggest necropolis in the known universe. So much bad vibes it's surprising that the universe doesn't just spontaneously allow for the existence of skeletons, zombies, and vengeful spirits.
:350: :skeltal:

You think that's bad? Think about money, and the journey of a dollar. Because dollars aren't destroyed, only moved around, a dollar that is spent on conflict or war eventually makes its way through the system to the consumer, putting blood on their hands. Getting us to handle that dollar, even in passing, compromises each of us spiritually. It's how they get ALL of us, man. :2bong:

Perry Mason Jar
Feb 24, 2006

"Della? Take a lid"

my bony fealty posted:

in Yemen by Israel dunno when

2015

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

Pulcinella posted:

gently caress I knew there was something I forgot to read for spooky season.



When you think about it, knowing that coal, oil, and other fossil fuels are the remains of life from long ago, how could burning it NOT be bad?! Desecrating the remains of trillions of life forms, burning away all the energy and experiences their bodies had stored, opening the entropy floodgates, wiping out any proof of their existence. Thats all bound to release a lot of bad juju into the world (physically embodied as too much CO₂).

We are destroying the biggest necropolis in the known universe. So much bad vibes it's surprising that the universe doesn't just spontaneously allow for the existence of skeletons, zombies, and vengeful spirits.
:350: :skeltal:

it's the dead labor of all living things long ago, come back to haunt us

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
cross-post; required viewing for the thread

Pf. Hikikomoriarty
Feb 15, 2003

RO YNSHO


Slippery Tilde

Pulcinella posted:

gently caress I knew there was something I forgot to read for spooky season.



When you think about it, knowing that coal, oil, and other fossil fuels are the remains of life from long ago, how could burning it NOT be bad?! Desecrating the remains of trillions of life forms, burning away all the energy and experiences their bodies had stored, opening the entropy floodgates, wiping out any proof of their existence. Thats all bound to release a lot of bad juju into the world (physically embodied as too much CO₂).

We are destroying the biggest necropolis in the known universe. So much bad vibes it's surprising that the universe doesn't just spontaneously allow for the existence of skeletons, zombies, and vengeful spirits.
:350: :skeltal:

powering your magic with the souls of the dead (burning fossil fuels) always turns out great, just like wishing for more wishes (compound interest)

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
code:
https://twitter.com/Shortwoman93/status/1721314975577227271

quote:

Thinking about the 1956 paper “Toward a Theory of Schizophrenia.” Anthropologist, cyberneticist, and OSS black propagandist Gregory Bateson co-wrote this paper after conducting research at the Veteran’s Administration Hospital in Palo Alto.

In “Toward a Theory of Schizophrenia” (1956), Bateson posits that when an individual is subjected, for a prolonged period of time, to double [binds]—“a situation in which no matter what a person does he can’t win”—the individual will respond by retreating into delusions.



I wonder, what might might happen in a nation of citizens subjected to decades of double-[binds]? Maybe you’d see these behaviors:

a) processing all information as a site of hostile hidden meaning

b) all information as a joke

c) disengaging from all information

Cuttlefush
Jan 15, 2014

gotta have my purp
toward a theory of insular megathreads

multistability
Feb 15, 2014
https://twitter.com/garyruskin/status/1721569366926565432?t=R_tnUwWSlWkGt8_BC-uu5g&s=19

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

just learned that John K Singlaub died LAST YEAR at the age of 100 :shepicide: why do all these ghouls live so goddamn long

Puppy Burner
Sep 9, 2011

my bony fealty posted:

just learned that John K Singlaub died LAST YEAR at the age of 100 :shepicide: why do all these ghouls live so goddamn long

They're the wealthiest people to ever live in history and all of civilizations resources are bent to their comfort

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

Cuttlefush posted:

toward a theory of insular megathreads

also forum moderation, owning this site, etc.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
code:
https://twitter.com/lakefieldmoscow/status/1722063378271678845

quote:

the king of nuclear conspiracy theories is that the u.s. tested an a-bomb at port chicago, calif., killing 320, mostly black sailors, july 17, 1944. it was an “ammo explosion.” almost exactly a yr later, on july 16, 1945, there’s the trinity test. cover story: “ammo explosion.”



code:
https://twitter.com/lakefieldmoscow/status/1722066610020569587

quote:

a 1982 article in the journal the black scholar raises further questions about whether the port chicago explosion was nuclear based on a “chance discovery” of a los alamos document at a garage sale.

https://jstor.org/stable/41066881



[Full pdf for people that can’t get around that jstor paywall https://zero.sci-hub.se/5696/15b8df5a0]



This is a really good paper. a lot more interesting and plausible than any other attempt I’ve seen at claiming random use of nukes





Perry Mason Jar
Feb 24, 2006

"Della? Take a lid"
That whole account is epstein_thread.txt as gently caress. Good follow

TheGoonspiracist
Jul 24, 2002

The terrible secret of space... :stonk: the Mods, they knew!

gradenko_2000 posted:

code:
https://twitter.com/Shortwoman93/status/1721314975577227271


Good luck winning against constant double binds.

There's no way to play the game without becoming schizo.
*wheels in chalk board with red string web showing how everyone is against you.

The Atomic Man-Boy
Jul 23, 2007

my bony fealty posted:

just learned that John K Singlaub died LAST YEAR at the age of 100 :shepicide: why do all these ghouls live so goddamn long

Gonna say it,



Adrenochrome

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
lol it keeps going:

code:
https://twitter.com/BoltzmannBooty/status/1722079073021903167
I’m now 75% convinced that the first nuclear test in human history was conducted in 1944 in a port in California and killed 320 black port workers














Some counterarguments in this paper

https://t.co/DwVvgrSqIJ



this is convincing evidence *against* the nuclear scenario



This is pretty strange. But the negative isotope test seems pretty cut and dry if real, I wonder if that documentary is available online somewhere

Well it's not like they would fake radiation tests.... Uh....

https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/11/01/toxic-cleanup-at-concord-naval-weapons-station-doesnt-ease-concerns/amp/



If the figures here are accurate then it certainly seems more consistent with a nuke, since you’d need a multi-kiloton yield to carve out the 66 ft deep, 300 ft by 700 ft wide crater. I’m not sure how deep the water was though so not sure which curve is most appropriate
quoting this other tweet:
code:
https://twitter.com/drbairdonline/status/1722112903212597485
Oh poo poo! There was a book about this exact historical question published last year: American Nuclear Deception: Why "the Port Chicago experiment" must be investigated, by Daisy B. Herndon

Strong counter-evidence if true

Referring to another tweet thread from July 2022:
code:
https://twitter.com/ikluft/status/1548804668758691840

quote:

About 15 years ago I got a chance to observe a twisted fragment of the 1944 ship with a geiger counter. Rest assured, it had lower reading than a banana which I brought along for a baseline comparison. That settled that.

Interestingly, the same guy as the above tweet swept the area with a geiger counter & found that background radiation in the vicinity & downwind was very slightly elevated. But yeah if he really showed a piece of the ship was non-radioactive that kills it

http://web.archive.org/web/20140130030606/http://ian.kluft.com/pc44/



based on a first skim there's some very very suggestive stuff in this 4-part series about explosion from the Napa Sentinel , i'll read it thoroughly & post some screenshots tomorrow night probably

http://web.archive.org/web/20130901095426/http://dmc.members.sonic.net/sentinel/usa4.html

If this is accurate, then the lack of radiation on the boat piece measured by the guy a few tweets ago actually does not disprove the nuclear scenario



A youtube link to an NBC Bay Area documentary: "The Port Chicago Disaster: 75 years later", posted in July 2019 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_t0FvLHzJw8

code:
https://twitter.com/BoltzmannBooty/status/1722090789499543742



Another book reference: "The Port Chicago 50: Disaster, Mutiny, and the Fight for Civil Rights", by Steve Sheinkin

gradenko_2000 has issued a correction as of 11:41 on Nov 8, 2023

Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

Is it me?

gradenko_2000 posted:

lol it keeps going:

code:
https://twitter.com/BoltzmannBooty/status/1722079073021903167
code:
https://twitter.com/BoltzmannBooty/status/1722090789499543742
placeholder for now but I'll save the full thread later

boltzmann booty is a pro follow btw

Mola Yam
Jun 18, 2004

Kali Ma Shakti de!
thread says they did radiation tests later and didn't find anything.

could totally see it being a tuskeegee style thing though, to test (with conventional explosives) what the damage would be from shipborne delivery of a small nuke. if that photo/footage is genuine, that's honestly pretty likely.

also lol:



they literally compensated the black victims' families with three-fifths of the amount the navy proposed

Gumball Gumption
Jan 7, 2012

Pulcinella posted:

gently caress I knew there was something I forgot to read for spooky season.



When you think about it, knowing that coal, oil, and other fossil fuels are the remains of life from long ago, how could burning it NOT be bad?! Desecrating the remains of trillions of life forms, burning away all the energy and experiences their bodies had stored, opening the entropy floodgates, wiping out any proof of their existence. Thats all bound to release a lot of bad juju into the world (physically embodied as too much CO₂).

We are destroying the biggest necropolis in the known universe. So much bad vibes it's surprising that the universe doesn't just spontaneously allow for the existence of skeletons, zombies, and vengeful spirits.
:350: :skeltal:

The only life forms that really became oil are algae and sea plants

Still concentrated evil though. Just not actually made of any animals

RandolphCarter
Jul 30, 2005


gradenko_2000 posted:

lol it keeps going:

code:
https://twitter.com/BoltzmannBooty/status/1722079073021903167
code:
https://twitter.com/BoltzmannBooty/status/1722090789499543742
placeholder for now but I'll save the full thread later

if it’s not too much trouble can you post the pics outside of the quote? pics auto-timg in quotes on the app and getting full size is a pain.

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


Mola Yam posted:

thread says they did radiation tests later and didn't find anything.

could totally see it being a tuskeegee style thing though, to test (with conventional explosives) what the damage would be from shipborne delivery of a small nuke. if that photo/footage is genuine, that's honestly pretty likely.

also lol:



they literally compensated the black victims' families with three-fifths of the amount the navy proposed

this country deserves annihilation and every day i learn more that makes me pray it come sooner

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

Gumball Gumption posted:

The only life forms that really became oil are algae and sea plants

Still concentrated evil though. Just not actually made of any animals

those still have ghosts

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

RandolphCarter posted:

if it’s not too much trouble can you post the pics outside of the quote? pics auto-timg in quotes on the app and getting full size is a pain.

I've updated the placeholder post, and I didn't use quote tags :)

Zodium
Jun 19, 2004

TheGoonspiracist posted:

Good luck winning against constant double binds.

There's no way to play the game without becoming schizo.
*wheels in chalk board with red string web showing how everyone is against you.

:nsa:

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


I’m imagining some officer having his men pile ten kilotonnes of ordnance in one place right next to the cigarette vending machine

Lampsacus
Oct 21, 2008

Fun fact, 'oil as a sentient being using us to crawl out of earth, hoping to one day smother the sun' is an idea david bowie hosed with and is why his last album was called black star or whatever it was.

Also, I feel like this thread is veering closer to breaching the topic of Sumerian desert demons and I'm here for it. Gilgamesh as ur myth, etc.

RandolphCarter
Jul 30, 2005


gradenko_2000 posted:

I've updated the placeholder post, and I didn't use quote tags :)

I appreciate it. hell of a read.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
This next load of material is a bit scattershot and maybe isn't even really all that esoteric but I've had some trouble with a repository and I wanted to archive the information before it gets lost.

___

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Secrets_of_F%E1tima

quote:

You have seen hell where the souls of poor sinners go. To save them, God wishes to establish in the world devotion to my Immaculate Heart. If what I say to you is done, many souls will be saved and there will be peace. The war is going to end: but if people do not cease offending God, a worse one will break out during the Pontificate of Pope Pius XI. When you see a night illumined by an unknown light, know that this is the great sign given you by God that he is about to punish the world for its crimes, by means of war, famine, and persecutions of the Church and of the Holy Father. To prevent this, I shall come to ask for the Consecration of Russia to my Immaculate Heart, and the Communion of reparation on the First Saturdays. If my requests are heeded, Russia will be converted, and there will be peace; if not, she will spread her errors throughout the world, causing wars and persecutions of the Church. The good will be martyred; the Holy Father will have much to suffer; various nations will be annihilated. In the end, my Immaculate Heart will triumph. The Holy Father will consecrate Russia to me, and she shall be converted, and a period of peace will be granted to the world.

https://www.ncregister.com/blog/fulton-sheen-explains-what-fatima-s-prophecies-mean

https://d2y1pz2y630308.cloudfront.net/1053/documents/2014/9/Back_to_the_Future.pdf

While at the Catholic University of America, Sheen provided voice-over commentary for an Easter Sunday Mass in 1940 that was one of the first televised religious services. During the sermon, telecast on experimental station W2XBS, Sheen remarked: "This is the first religious television in the history of the world. Let therefore its first message be a tribute of thanks to God for giving the minds of our day the inspiration to unravel the secrets of the universe."[23][24]

quote:

On February 12, 1952, he began a weekly television program on the DuMont Television Network, titled Life Is Worth Living.[25] Filmed at the Adelphi Theatre in New York City, the program consisted of the unpaid Sheen simply speaking in front of a live audience without a script or cue cards, occasionally using a chalkboard.

The show, scheduled in a prime time slot on Tuesday nights at 8:00 p.m., was not expected to challenge the ratings giants Milton Berle and Frank Sinatra, but did surprisingly well. Berle, known to many early television viewers as "Uncle Miltie" and for using ancient vaudeville material, joked about Sheen, "He uses old material, too", and observed that "[i]f I'm going to be eased off the top by anyone, it's better that I lose to the One for whom Bishop Sheen is speaking."[10] Sheen responded in jest that maybe people should start calling him "Uncle Fultie".[26] Life and Time magazines ran feature stories on Bishop Sheen. The number of stations carrying Life Is Worth Living jumped from three to fifteen in less than two months. There was fan mail that flowed in at a rate of 8,500 letters per week. There were four times as many requests for tickets as could be fulfilled. Admiral, the sponsor, paid the production costs in return for a one-minute commercial at the show's opening and another minute at the close.[26] In 1952, Sheen won an Emmy Award for his efforts,[27] accepting the acknowledgment by saying, "I feel it is time I pay tribute to my four writers – Matthew, Mark, Luke and John." When Sheen won the Emmy, Berle quipped, "We both work for 'Sky Chief'", a reference to Berle's sponsor Texaco. Time called him "the first 'televangelist'" and the Archdiocese of New York could not meet the demand for tickets.[10]

One of his best-remembered presentations came in February 1953, when he forcefully denounced the Soviet regime of Joseph Stalin. Sheen gave a dramatic reading of the burial scene from Shakespeare's Julius Caesar, substituting the names of prominent Soviet leaders Stalin, Lavrenty Beria, Georgy Malenkov, and Andrey Vyshinsky for the original Caesar, Cassius, Marc Antony, and Brutus. He concluded by saying, "Stalin must one day meet his judgment." Days later, the dictator suffered a stroke, dying within the week.

https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/232566834.pdf - Selling Catholicism: Bishop Sheen and the Power of Television



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPks3t6cQgE&t=131s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWzPU1oeViM

Dokapon Findom
Dec 5, 2022

They hated Futanari because His posts were shit.
Biomagnification... but for souls :ohdear:

Bilirubin
Feb 16, 2014

The sanctioned action is to CHUG


gradenko_2000 posted:

code:
https://twitter.com/Shortwoman93/status/1721314975577227271

lol, lmao

:tinfoil:

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mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

gradenko_2000 posted:

This next load of material is a bit scattershot and maybe isn't even really all that esoteric but I've had some trouble with a repository and I wanted to archive the information before it gets lost.

___

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Secrets_of_F%E1tima

https://www.ncregister.com/blog/fulton-sheen-explains-what-fatima-s-prophecies-mean

https://d2y1pz2y630308.cloudfront.net/1053/documents/2014/9/Back_to_the_Future.pdf

While at the Catholic University of America, Sheen provided voice-over commentary for an Easter Sunday Mass in 1940 that was one of the first televised religious services. During the sermon, telecast on experimental station W2XBS, Sheen remarked: "This is the first religious television in the history of the world. Let therefore its first message be a tribute of thanks to God for giving the minds of our day the inspiration to unravel the secrets of the universe."[23][24]

https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/232566834.pdf - Selling Catholicism: Bishop Sheen and the Power of Television



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPks3t6cQgE&t=131s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWzPU1oeViM

the chick inside must have the instinct to realize that there is a bigger and broader environment than the confines of a shell :hai:

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