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OctaMurk
Jun 21, 2013

Diet Crack posted:

I'd imagine the safety circle around a Trophy when it goes off is going to be atleast 200m. It's high velocity spewing out projectiles the other way to deal with the incoming warhead

Though in reality, it's almost as if Tanks aren't designed to fight in cities

tanks are good to have in cities as any other battlefield. they got a cannon, machine guns, optics and very strong frontal armor. if you have infantry locking down the flanks then theyre real scary to deal with. the idf missed that last part and the trophy system kinda forces them to miss it

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Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3
Nov 15, 2003

Sancho Banana posted:

The destruction and replacement of Israel with a single, secular and democratic state of Palestine is a far more realistic goal than Israel cutting ties with the US and dropping Zionism, even though young Israelis aren't all that passionate about the zionist cause. Hoping for Israel to turn into a normal country for all of its subjects through diplomacy and integration into the arab world is cope.

If you like your ethnostate, you can keep it.

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

https://twitter.com/MaoistGorilla/status/1722072576007213215

Engorged Pedipalps
Apr 21, 2023

OctaMurk posted:

tanks are good to have in cities as any other battlefield. they got a cannon, machine guns, optics and very strong frontal armor. if you have infantry locking down the flanks then theyre real scary to deal with. the idf missed that last part and the trophy system kinda forces them to miss it

Arguably they even have a lot of advantages in an urban environment that are otherwise impossible to replicate, you can't build fortifications everywhere but you sure as hell can set up a tank and sand bags

But without infantry to support, this infantry support weapon is useless. What's the point of fortifying positions if you can't defend or advance from them?

Cannons can't win a war alone

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

https://twitter.com/SwordMercury/status/1722301293669109795

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

https://twitter.com/Leo_Puglisi6/status/1722128779378925827

Merry Ham-Mas

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Frosted Flake posted:

It's very easy.

1) Noah, Abraham, Moses, David

2) David is to have a child, yet to be born, who shall succeed him and establish his kingdom.
A son (Solomon) shall build the temple instead of David.
The throne of his kingdom shall be established forever.
The throne will not be taken away from him (Solomon) even though his sins justify chastisement.
David's house, throne, and kingdom shall be established forever

3) The Quran states how God cursed the Children of Israel and made them suffer for breaking the covenant

3B) They also broke Roman law by unlawful sedition, much like Jan 6

4) Ergo, ipso facto, the Jewish history of the land is why it belongs to Muslims and Christians (Palestinians) now.

Don't forget that Palestinians can claim descent from the other Semitic and non Semitic Tribes specifically mentioned in the Bible, which were conquered by invading Jewish tribes if we wanna go down that stupid route.

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021

Orange Devil posted:

They have cut food and water to 2.3 million people, half of which are children, for going on 5 weeks now. The plan is to wait for starvation and disease (always the actual big killers in times of prolonged war historically) to set in and do the dirty work for them. This will be the single largest crime against humanity and act of genocide in decades (since ww2?) if it really comes to that.

bangladesh. It even had the US saying they could do nothing while a vassal state armed with american gear did a genocide.

Engorged Pedipalps
Apr 21, 2023

Can't believe I missed my opportunity to get palestinian solidarity pork

Bring it back and sell it internationally you cowards

Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

HashtagGirlboss posted:

Yeah agree that’s what it all sounds like to me too, where the “danger to infantry support” is either cope or poor engineering

Trophy sprays a general direction with what is essentially very large very fast shrapnel to intercept the incoming projectile. It will absolutely tear any trooper to bits.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007


BELGIUM HANDS OFF REGARDING ISRAEL

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

https://twitter.com/kitschmusik/status/1722149769609396706

Engorged Pedipalps
Apr 21, 2023

Shageletic posted:

BELGIUM HANDS OFF REGARDING ISRAEL

Lmao

Bear Retrieval Unit
Nov 5, 2009

Mudslide Experiment

Israel has begun a counter propaganda campaign:

Engorged Pedipalps
Apr 21, 2023

Killing one hamas guy for every three vehicles they lose, very good returns

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug

Shageletic posted:

BELGIUM HANDS OFF REGARDING ISRAEL

they're going to throw them out of Eurovision.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Tankbuster posted:

bangladesh. It even had the US saying they could do nothing while a vassal state armed with american gear did a genocide.



They even had aircraft carriers off the coast.

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

Tankbuster posted:

bangladesh. It even had the US saying they could do nothing while a vassal state armed with american gear did a genocide.



Ah right, potentially largest genocide since 1971 then.

webcams for christ
Nov 2, 2005

lol yeah sure

https://twitter.com/FirstSquawk/status/1722336512136691965

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.
Rafael claims infantry are safe at a few meters but given Trophy's ability to intercept a rocket at what looks like 20m I am very sceptical.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVma76ZQ2dQ&t=71s

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Cabbages and VHS
Aug 25, 2004

Listen, I've been around a bit, you know, and I thought I'd seen some creepy things go on in the movie business, but I really have to say this is the most disgusting thing that's ever happened to me.

StashAugustine posted:

It occurs to me that the "tribal warfare about Jehovah" line is also an abdication of responsibility from the West, given that the only way I'd say the Palestinian conflict is "complicated" is that the horrific legacy of centuries of persecution culminating in the Holocaust mean the settlers have a lot more sympathy than, say, the Boers. Obviously there's a bunch of reasons why they're still in the wrong, but it's interesting that it all gets blamed on premodern conflicts in the Middle East than on the Europeans who are actually at fault

I strongly agree and the indoctrination runs deep. There was more text here but it's just burger poo poo about my parents and how we're all parsing it out; the point is that I think basically everyone in the US over a certain age has been brain poisoned on this particular issue even more than other issues, and, that poisoning is being exploited by our admin and Israel to do as much killing as quickly as possible.

Weka posted:

Rafael claims infantry are safe at a few meters but given Trophy's ability to intercept a rocket at what looks like 20m I am very sceptical.

"90%" would make you think you'd need 10 rockets to probably disable it, but from myriad reports we know the magic number is 2.

That seems like a reason that infantry doesn't want to flank tanks, though.

Cabbages and VHS has issued a correction as of 20:39 on Nov 8, 2023

rgocs
Nov 9, 2011

gradenko_2000 posted:

The red triangle thing reminds me of how Z became a symbol for Russia just because it was the letter painted on vehicles assigned to that military district, Zapad, or West

It's a "meme" in the purest sense of the word

Omg, they might have hacked the NYSE, I haven't deciphered it yet, but the red triangle just keeps popping up!

https://www.nyse.com/index

Death By The Blues
Oct 30, 2011
https://twitter.com/ME_Observer_/status/1722268143417192822

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

Weka posted:

Rafael claims infantry are safe at a few meters but given Trophy's ability to intercept a rocket at what looks like 20m I am very sceptical.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVma76ZQ2dQ&t=71s



it looks so cool on slow mo, it’s a pity it’s useless until the age of Gundams kicks off

Honky Mao
Dec 26, 2012


hezbollah tried to blow up the giant jesus

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




Al-Saqr posted:

apparently hamas started using the russian "Konkurs" missiles today against the IDF

https://x.com/rassdnewsn/status/1722223259159286158?s=46&t=kY7HKwmb1RBg9U186lxtbg

this is what the missile is


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/9M113_Konkurs

koncurs bad war day.

Clip-On Fedora
Feb 20, 2011

Engorged Pedipalps posted:

Arguably they even have a lot of advantages in an urban environment that are otherwise impossible to replicate, you can't build fortifications everywhere but you sure as hell can set up a tank and sand bags

But without infantry to support, this infantry support weapon is useless. What's the point of fortifying positions if you can't defend or advance from them?

Cannons can't win a war alone

Yeah, that’s why they’re trying to starve them all to death

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

carcinofuck posted:

younger Israelis would rather have a Dubai-esque Tel Aviv than Israel as a zionist state.

So they want Palestinian slaves? The UAE is one of the worst possible models for a state.

Engorged Pedipalps
Apr 21, 2023

Why would Hamas even care about Brazil lmao

Zeppelin Insanity
Oct 28, 2009

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Wahnsinn

HashtagGirlboss posted:

And what is the radius that a trophy system going off is deadly. If it is 50 meters like motorcycle av suggests then they should be able to make that work, no? Just curious because the trophy system excuse kind of feels like cope for cowardice by their infantry to me, which is funny

Worth noting that when Soviets pioneered APS with Drozd, and found that it was deadly to friendly infantry 25m in front of the tank, the army lost interest in the project, and only marines remained interested.

However, life is cheap in the West.

Incidentally the system came with a light on the tank indicating when it was on so that infantry knew about it.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Qassam released another big video showing anti-vehicle actions from the northern and southern axes. It highlights some important facts:



In the center there is an Israeli vehicle park. Both a vehicle and a block house being used as an HQ are directly hit by Hamas artillery.

The video also opens with footage of a guy debating over aerial photos on an ipad, emphasizing that Hamas has their own drones doing surveillance of the strip, giving them a situational awareness at least on par with the IOF - only the Israelis are all above ground.

The street fighting emphasizes mid-ranged vehicle kills, showing off Hamas fighter marksmanship with the Yassin grenades. It takes only a handful of fighters to effectively ambush Israeli armor.

Pookah
Aug 21, 2008

🪶Caw🪶





Engorged Pedipalps posted:

Why would Hamas even care about Brazil lmao

Brazil has explicitly expressed support for Gaza, it's absolute gobbledygook.

Bear Retrieval Unit
Nov 5, 2009

Mudslide Experiment

Engorged Pedipalps posted:

Why would Hamas even care about Brazil lmao

south America is a popular destination for israelis traveling after their military service so I assume the implication is that they're trying to hit israelis abroad.

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

Engorged Pedipalps posted:

Why would Hamas even care about Brazil lmao

huge palestinian diaspora

tristeham
Jul 31, 2022

PawParole posted:

https://twitter.com/8EyedEel/status/1722296677296463907

It’s day 31 of the 1 day operation and Gaza is still free.

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!
https://twitter.com/BootsRiley/status/1722336448593141797

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

Comparing prominent Jewish individual Jesus to ham? Antisemitism.

ughhhh
Oct 17, 2012


Lmao. These are the psychos who think they are a lost tribe of Israel following some crazy Burmese warlord right?

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019


https://twitter.com/Iradeeeee/status/1722313106955677777

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PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

Reik posted:

If we're using "whomever lived there 3000 years ago" to determine who has a right to land, I've got some bad news for the United States.

When you raise this issue some people just say "Yeah, they should get their land back too" knowing that it's never going to happen.

It's the power of the status quo.

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