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Shard posted:Ivory was so jacked she ruled I definitely remember being intimidated by her and I only felt that way about one other female wrestler at the time and that was Jacqueline (Chyna too I suppose). Ivory vs. Jacqueline would've been a pretty good match think, I don't recall if that match up ever happened though.
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Nov 8, 2023 22:31
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Barry Bluejeans posted:For sure, it's a great spot and pulled off really well. I'd never seen that match before and it's pretty fascinating (trashy as it is), so thanks! Sometimes the most brutal spots are super safe but let your mind fill in the blanks. Eddie kingston throwing rubbing alcohol on moxleys various open wounds had me cringing and screaming even though its probably just water inside of a rubbing alcohol bottle(I hope, even mox wouldnt be that dumb) Anytime someone does the finger snapping spot real good. Penta's arm breaker.
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Nov 8, 2023 22:59
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Defenestrategy posted:Eddie kingston throwing rubbing alcohol on moxleys various open wounds had me cringing and screaming even though its probably just water inside of a rubbing alcohol bottle(I hope, even mox wouldnt be that dumb) Same thing as Eddie pouring "gasoline" on Jericho - it's just water, but put it in a gas can and your mind fills in the blanks
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Nov 8, 2023 23:08
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Defenestrategy posted:Sometimes the most brutal spots are super safe but let your mind fill in the blanks. theres a great interview with Mox where he says he was shocked people thought it was a real sawzal he took to the face at ToD, he was like "people thought it was real, if it was real how would i still have a face?"
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Nov 8, 2023 23:13
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Barry Bluejeans posted:Same thing as Eddie pouring "gasoline" on Jericho - it's just water, it was actually gas and he was gonna set those fuckers on fire
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Defenestrategy posted:Sometimes the most brutal spots are super safe but let your mind fill in the blanks. Toshiyuki Sakuda putting a skewer through both of your cheeks
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Nov 8, 2023 23:24
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As someone with a bunch of aftermarket face holes I feel qualified in saying I could definitely handle the skewer through the cheeks spot A single bump would shatter me like sugar glass but poke me full of holes no problem
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Nov 8, 2023 23:48
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Barry Bluejeans posted:Same thing as Eddie pouring "gasoline" on Jericho - it's just water, but put it in a gas can and your mind fills in the blanks The lead singer of Avatar does this in concert - his water bottle on stage is a gas can and he drinks out of it throughout the show.
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graph posted:it was actually gas and he was gonna set those fuckers on fire I will forever believe that Eddie doesn't know wrestling is fake.
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Nov 9, 2023 00:16
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Dick Bastardly posted:I definitely remember being intimidated by her and I only felt that way about one other female wrestler at the time and that was Jacqueline (Chyna too I suppose). Ivory vs. Jacqueline would've been a pretty good match think, I don't recall if that match up ever happened though. They had four PPV multi-person matches too, but those ranged from a two minute long Survivor Series "Sudden Death" match to a seven minute UK-only four-way with them + Luna and Tori. I imagine they could have had a better-than-most-everything-actually-presented match in the late 90s/early 2000s though. I think the aforementioned Ivory vs. Tori hardcore match was the longest 1v1 women's match to be broadcast by WWE until 2002 or so.
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Nov 9, 2023 01:26
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Alright, what'd be the worst spots then? Which are either/or painful or unsafe but doesnt actually look painful The Selfrock Bottom/flatliner, is probably uo there. You're taking a flat back bump, which from experience kinda sucks, and the pay off is a move that doesnt even look that good to begin with.
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Nov 9, 2023 01:57
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Finn Balor's double footstomp apparently feels much worse to take than it ever looks
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Edge & Christian posted:They had 34 televised matches with each other, including eleven singles matches mostly on secondary shows, and none of them appearing to go more than three minutes. I've certainly seen at least a few of those matches in that case, but I don't recall and that's likely more on my dumb teenaged stoner brain than it was on the matches being forgettable.
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Defenestrategy posted:Alright, what'd be the worst spots then? Which are either/or painful or unsafe but doesnt actually look painful Taking Shane McMahon punches
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Nov 9, 2023 02:12
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Being within 5 feet of Nia Jax
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Who would be widely regarded as the stiffest in the ring in recent history (let's say... the past 30 years or so) I wonder?
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Dick Bastardly posted:Who would be widely regarded as the stiffest in the ring in recent history (let's say... the past 30 years or so) I wonder? the TNA 6-sided ring
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Nov 9, 2023 02:19
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Dick Bastardly posted:I've certainly seen at least a few of those matches in that case, but I don't recall and that's likely more on my dumb teenaged stoner brain than it was on the matches being forgettable. They were almost certainly forgettable.
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Nov 9, 2023 02:20
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DeathChicken posted:Finn Balor's double footstomp apparently feels much worse to take than it ever looks At least that looks like it would hurt so it's arguably worth it. Bret said he hated chops because you can't do it without hurting the other guy, which defeats the purpose of a work. I'm guessing there's some submission holds that actually hurt and don't look much more than any others.
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Nov 9, 2023 02:27
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pseudodragon posted:At least that looks like it would hurt so it's arguably worth it. Bret said he hated chops because you can't do it without hurting the other guy, which defeats the purpose of a work. Bret has a lot of bad ideas.
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Nov 9, 2023 02:29
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Bret got his brains loving scrambled by Goldberg let’s not judge him too harshly
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MassRafTer posted:They were almost certainly forgettable. You know what isn't forgettable but I wish was? That one time Mae Young exposed her puppies on some live ppv (I've forgotten which one in a twist of cruel irony)
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Nov 9, 2023 02:36
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There was a brief period in the attitude era where it seemed like every ppv had a mandatory segment for one of the women to go topless and I guess she drew the short straw that night
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Nov 9, 2023 02:38
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Royal Rumble 2000. That part is censored on the Network, which is amusing
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Nov 9, 2023 02:38
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I feel like someone actually did a shoot and said they were fake old lady boobs though so maybe it’s ok!
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Nov 9, 2023 02:39
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It was funny because they were old and ugly.
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I didn't mean that night I mean that was Moolah and Mae Young's gimmick.
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Dick Bastardly posted:Who would be widely regarded as the stiffest in the ring in recent history (let's say... the past 30 years or so) I wonder? Didn't Low Ki pretty famously not do the double stomp the right way Foley said Terry Funk didn't even work his punches The Steiners beat the everliving gently caress out of jobbers when they weren't sexually assaulting them in the showers
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Nov 9, 2023 02:51
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pseudodragon posted:I'm guessing there's some submission holds that actually hurt and don't look much more than any others. I doubt it, as it turns out it's actually pretty hard to hurt someone with a submission if you're both cooperating with it and aren't untrained or being an rear end in a top hat.
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Nehru the Damaja posted:The Steiners beat the everliving gently caress out of jobbers when they weren't sexually assaulting them in the showers 
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Eric Bischoff and Kevin Nash have both told remarkably similar stories about it. They seem very credible to me.
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Defenestrategy posted:I doubt it, as it turns out it's actually pretty hard to hurt someone with a submission if you're both cooperating with it and aren't untrained or being an rear end in a top hat. Considering how a lot of shoot submissions can look like nothing at all but put people in absolute agony I bet an improperly applied worked submission would probably work the same way
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Nov 9, 2023 03:13
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History Comes Inside! posted:Considering how a lot of shoot submissions can look like nothing at all but put people in absolute agony I bet an improperly applied worked submission would probably work the same way Correct, a lot of worked submissions are just improperly applied shoot submissions, but really the only submissions that would suck to take if applied properly in a prowrestling context would be Boston Crab positions if you're not particularly flexible and your partner is hyper-extending you on accident.
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Nov 9, 2023 03:23
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Barry Bluejeans posted:Same thing as Eddie pouring "gasoline" on Jericho - it's just water, but put it in a gas can and your mind fills in the blanks Or Lita spraying Foley with lighter fluid in his WM match with Edge.
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Wrong thread
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The Lebel Lock actually hurts a lot. In BJJ it's sometimes called the Imanari choke, which is technically a rear naked choke but the neck crank in that context isn't really any better. There's a video of Joe Rogan doing it with a few pro MMA fighters and it's just blowing their minds how much it hurts. WRT the Tori/Ivory iron spot if you watch closely you can just see that they filled the iron about 1/3 full with fake blood instead of water (it's visibly red for about 1/2 second as she's getting it in position) and she just pumps the water button with her thumb. It's actually a really sneaky and clever way of doing it.
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Nov 9, 2023 05:02
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Nehru the Damaja posted:Didn't Low Ki pretty famously not do the double stomp the right way Funk worked them unless it was a big spot, and his first punch of the match was always a live round to remind people not to gently caress with him.
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Nov 9, 2023 05:17
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CombineThresher posted:Funk worked them unless it was a big spot, and his first punch of the match was always a live round to remind people not to gently caress with him. God, he was the best.
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Nehru the Damaja posted:I will forever believe that Eddie doesn't know wrestling is fake. Alec McGuiness to Eddie Kingston: "Young chap, have you tried acting?"
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