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Cavauro posted:you saying they're always the best? qbs? They're weirdos OP Nervous posted:Rodgers 100% taught Love the bare minimum he could get away with, if for no other reason than to spite Gutekunst for daring to draft his replacement without even the slightest of heads up. If anything, Rodgers probably tried to sabotage Love's development. Add to that it was no secret that Favre did not try to help Rodgers which is definitely something a man with no gruntles would pass on.
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Nov 9, 2023 02:08
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Gorson posted:We know that Rodgers didn't trust Love to lead the team (or, refused to sit simply because of ego) because when Rodgers got hurt last year he wouldn't sit out so Love could develop. I think it's less doesn't trust the kid and more "gently caress that guy, he's not taking my job." Like I think he's more likely to sit out if he knows the backup isn't a threat (the Peyton Manning school of backup QBs), but it's perfectly reasonable for Aaron to not want to give Love a chance when he knows the bosses are just looking for an excuse to replace him.
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Yeah QB mentoring is not that much of a thing. It's among the reasons McCown had such a good reputation is he was willing to try to teach.
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Ches Neckbeard posted:Yeah QB mentoring is not that much of a thing. It's among the reasons McCown had such a good reputation is he was willing to try to teach. Haven't you seen that hanging out with Aaron Rodgers has made Zach Wilson good? smh
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pseudodragon posted:I think it's less doesn't trust the kid and more "gently caress that guy, he's not taking my job." Like I think he's more likely to sit out if he knows the backup isn't a threat (the Peyton Manning school of backup QBs), but it's perfectly reasonable for Aaron to not want to give Love a chance when he knows the bosses are just looking for an excuse to replace him. I wouldn't doubt that. But at the time they were 4-8 and while Rodgers did lead them back to miss out on the playoffs in the most embarrassing fashion he should have stepped aside. He could barely grip the ball. I don't see MLF getting fired this year under any circumstances, the Packers for better or worse are not a rebuild type organization you need an owner with a leathery face and hair trigger for that.
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Gorson posted:We really don't know what we have with Love, I predicted 3500yds 22td/14int something like that which these days is league average. League average is pretty good when you could be starting Tommy DeVito. “Better than the third string QB on a team that doesn’t haven’t a starting quality QB on the roster” is a really generous way to look at things. What you’re describing as league average is really just the minimum acceptable level of play that *might* keep you from getting replaced immediately. It’s an alright bar for a rookie but so far Love is below even that bar this year.
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Tricky Ed posted:Yeah, the thing with betting odds is that they're predicting how the general public will wager, not necessarily what will happen. I imagine there's a negative Browns bump the same way there's a positive Cowboys bump just because of the general reputation of the teams. It's also a marketing tool to get people talking about BetOnline.com, the most legitimate gambling site Panama City has to offer
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Adam schefter was on the punter jocks show and talked about Tepper being known for being impatient and said changes at HC if Carolina doesn't turn it around would not be surprising. Interesting he'd be so specific and so open about it.
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BlindSite posted:Adam schefter was on the punter jocks show and talked about Tepper being known for being impatient and said changes at HC if Carolina doesn't turn it around would not be surprising. Tepper is gonna have to change head coaches since he'll want to pay whoever he hires next in local currency.
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Cognac McCarthy posted:The last month has absolutely bought KOC another year or two of almost guaranteed safety The Falcons game should have bought him an entire year all on its own IMO. Pulling out a win while basically trying to remote program a QB on the field, even a seven-year veteran backup like Dobbs, is an UNBELIEVABLE feat of coaching.
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Redeye Flight posted:The Falcons game should have bought him an entire year all on its own IMO. Pulling out a win while basically trying to remote program a QB on the field, even a seven-year veteran backup like Dobbs, is an UNBELIEVABLE feat of coaching. That game and keeping the team fighting in close matchups all last season are the reasons they’re calling him a coach of the year candidate on espn. I don’t think that list is really serious about the bottom few but they need some long odds guys
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Relentlessboredomm posted:Allen is very very bad and the Saints are only beating the absolute dregs. The man actively makes the team worse, hell there was a stretch late in the game with the Bears where they were only up 1 score and they kept punting on their own 40. It was maddening. As a Bucs fan I hope they keep him around bc that dude’s never doing better than like a 8-9 / 9-8 division win over a truly garbage NFC S division and even that’s his absolute ceiling I can see what you mean, and Allen is definitely a mediocre coach, but I'm used to seeing defensive coaches do a poor job defensively for their teams, and I think the Saints D is one of their better aspects. If there was a way to get rid of the man at the top while not losing that edge, that'd be preferable for New Orleans.
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Relentlessboredomm posted:Allen is very very bad and the Saints are only beating the absolute dregs. The man actively makes the team worse, hell there was a stretch late in the game with the Bears where they were only up 1 score and they kept punting on their own 40. It was maddening. As a Bucs fan I hope they keep him around bc that dude’s never doing better than like a 8-9 / 9-8 division win over a truly garbage NFC S division and even that’s his absolute ceiling Punting it to Bagent so he could immediately throw it to a waiting defnmensive back is a brilliant strategy.
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Probably Magic posted:I can see what you mean, and Allen is definitely a mediocre coach, but I'm used to seeing defensive coaches do a poor job defensively for their teams, and I think the Saints D is one of their better aspects. If there was a way to get rid of the man at the top while not losing that edge, that'd be preferable for New Orleans. DA taking a demotion as a hotshot OC comes in to be HC would be ideal for nola. Dude can clearly coach a defense and he seems to be able to turn any DB into an all pro. He just needs to be taken away from everything to do with the actual leading of a team.
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Probably Magic posted:I can see what you mean, and Allen is definitely a mediocre coach, but I'm used to seeing defensive coaches do a poor job defensively for their teams, and I think the Saints D is one of their better aspects. If there was a way to get rid of the man at the top while not losing that edge, that'd be preferable for New Orleans. The Saints D has faced a bunch of preschoolers this year.
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:The Saints D has faced a bunch of preschoolers this year. It doesn't get any harder the rest of the year either. Dobbs Heinicke Goff Bryce Devito? Stafford? Baker Heinicke
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wandler20 posted:It doesn't get any harder the rest of the year either. Might be able to sub Wentz in for Stafford at that point too!!
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ghosthorse posted:That game and keeping the team fighting in close matchups all last season are the reasons they’re calling him a coach of the year candidate on espn. I don’t think that list is really serious about the bottom few but they need some long odds guys Yeah they need a few 50:1??? I can’t afford NOT to take a shot at that guys. Narrator: you could in fact afford not to take a shot of KOC being fired. Arthur Smith not being on the list is way more baffling. Granted I don’t know how Atlanta’s ownership operates but it feels like his seat should only be about 5 degrees cooler than McDaniels. wandler20 posted:It doesn't get any harder the rest of the year either. Half of the qbs in the league getting hurt and/or benched for performance sure has been something. Hopefully this draft class lives up to the hype cause it’s rough out there. Usually a couple times a year you look at the slate of games and wince. This year it’s like every drat week. Docjowles fucked around with this message at 20:44 on Nov 9, 2023 |
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wandler20 posted:It doesn't get any harder the rest of the year either. To come to the defense of the NFC North's honor, I think Goff is probably the most dangerous QB in the division right now and is seriously underappreciated, especially with how nasty the Lions' O-line can be. I'd also argue that the Vikings' O-line is seriously underappreciated, particularly if Darrisaw DOES come back, and the Vikes' WR corps -- even depleted as it is -- can kill you fifteen ways before the play clock hits zero. That being said, I think the Saints are going to be a BIG challenge for the Vikings. As for the rest, there's two others I might call potentially challengeing. The Falcons are seriously struggling, of course, but in-divisional games are always insanity; likewise Baker and the Bucs may have lost that Texans game but they still put up 37 points on it. As for the rest, the Rams are still kind of a disaster, the Giants are ACTUALLY a disaster, and I don't want to look too hard at the Panthers lest the radioactivity sunburn my eyeballs.
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Athletic had some stat that this season more rookie QBs have started than at any point since 1950. So it’s not your imagination that QBs are both younger and shittier than usual.
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wandler20 posted:It doesn't get any harder the rest of the year either. Malcolm Butler.txt
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BlindSite posted:Adam schefter was on the punter jocks show and talked about Tepper being known for being impatient and said changes at HC if Carolina doesn't turn it around would not be surprising. Makes sense given the NBA just cycles through coaches like underwear.
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Chris James 2 posted:Camera cut to Tepper shaking his head He can shake his head all he wants, but he's responsible for every single bit of this shitshow.
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Nov 10, 2023 05:09
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Panthers got no talent but idk how much more you gotta see to say Reich aint it. This team isnt even scrappy like the first year dan campbell lions
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I don't think Frank Reich gets fired in season, it's his first year there but man is this poo poo rough and that looks like a team thats just lost
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ozymandius1024 posted:He can shake his head all he wants, but he's responsible for every single bit of this shitshow.
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Master Stur posted:Panthers got no talent but idk how much more you gotta see to say Reich aint it. This team isnt even scrappy like the first year dan campbell lions They aren't even scrappy like LAST YEAR'S PANTHERS. That this team ditched Sam Darnold and PJ Walker and still look appreciably worse despite drafting a QB #1 overall is loving astounding. But hey, it's not like offensive savants like Ben McAdoo grow on trees, right?
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shyduck posted:I don't think Frank Reich gets fired in season, it's his first year there but man is this poo poo rough and that looks like a team thats just lost I’d normally agree but Tepper apparently wanted Bryce and Bryce looks like poo poo so Tepper might fire Reich just to try and salvage the pick.
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ozymandius1024 posted:They aren't even scrappy like LAST YEAR'S PANTHERS. What you say is also true. I was thinking about the lions in the sense that DanMCs first year by W-L was pretty bad but you could just tell the team was bought in and lacked talent. This team looks neither bought in nor does their supposed new talent look good. It's hopeless.
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I mean, the Panthers looked like a considerably worse team than the 2023 Chicago Bears. They needed a punt return TD to be in the game at all! That’s loving dire. As is having so little confidence in the QB you selected #1 overall that you would rather have your kicker attempt a field goal he clearly doesn’t have the leg to actually make as opposed to putting the ball in your young QB’s hands on 4th&10.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:I’d normally agree but Tepper apparently wanted Bryce and Bryce looks like poo poo so Tepper might fire Reich just to try and salvage the pick. Going to need to get some "Locker Room in Chaos!" stories in the press going, and then dump him in December.
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You have to get Frank Reich the gently caress out of there immediately. Ruining your #1 overall QB is grounds for immediate termination. Remove him before Bryce is unfixable.
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Kirios posted:You have to get Frank Reich the gently caress out of there immediately. Ruining your #1 overall QB is grounds for immediate termination. Remove him before Bryce is unfixable. The issue is you're probably not going to attract the cream of the crop when you're firing people immediately. Regardless of how much money Tepper throws around.
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