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Dokapon Findom posted:Why would an intelligent species kill the planet it needs to live The question is invalid. It is based on false assumptions. Individual humans can be smart. The species is dumb.
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Nov 8, 2023 20:54
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Dokapon Findom posted:Why would an intelligent species kill the planet it needs to live There really are "conspiracies" in the sense that people do conspire together, but mainstream "conspiracy theories" are a way for the believer to reassure themselves that the world isn't a bunch of chaos being managed by glorified apes. For example the idea that surely we wouldn't destroy ourselves, surely someone is secretly in control? It is seductive. It is a form of Bargaining.
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Nov 8, 2023 21:40
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i'm a firm believer we live in the veep/billions/succession cinematic universe, where there *are* lots of rich people "in charge" and actively doing conspiracy stuff all day every day but also that there are so many of them that it still nets out to a sortof nihlistic/cybernetic system-dynamics-doing-emergent-poo poo effect where no ones collectively in control of anything
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Nov 9, 2023 00:31
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i believe we're being drained of our resources by the annanaki who live on the moon
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Nov 9, 2023 00:50
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if you tell me we are in the Veep universe then my takeaway is that no one in power has any real vision other than their own grasp for power
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Nov 9, 2023 01:05
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drain me, moon daddy
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Nov 9, 2023 01:10
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bawfuls posted:if you tell me we are in the Veep universe then my takeaway is that no one in power has any real vision other than their own grasp for power Yep you got it. The world is the 1%'s personal game of Hungry Hungry Hippos trying to grab up as much money and power as possible. It's all about money and social climbing. The equivalent of why Outlook changes it's UI every 6 months: Someone wanted a project that didn't need to happen just so they can say they did it and prove to the gatekeeper above them to give them more.
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Nov 9, 2023 01:21
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i had thought there were drought and related issues earlier but anyway, https://apnews.com/article/climate-change-drought-syria-iraq-iran-bd1c8458da5fbd2be766b25ecd86e958 https://apnews.com/article/iran-middle-east-business-world-news-syria-3b8569a74d798b9923e2a8b812fa1fca
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Nov 9, 2023 01:24
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Also people who actually work in US politics will happily tell you that Veep is the show which most closely resembles reality
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Nov 9, 2023 01:39
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Well it's hosed and we're locked into the west antarctic ice sheets falling in even if emissions stop. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_BoZDS1gjU If emissions don't go down the east will fall in too. Timetable, like end of century at best Tl;dr: "Hope is not appropriate." Courage is adaptation, we need to work with the end we have & plan for 2200. not next fiscal quarter, not next election.
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Nov 9, 2023 01:40
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*sigh* okay, you see this number? this one right here? it goes up. UP! not down. up!
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Nov 9, 2023 01:43
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everyone should bury their heads in the soil and exhale deeply
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Nov 9, 2023 01:43
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Trabisnikof posted:yeah obviously The King is correct in the long view, but my understanding is there are a bunch of just terrible almost useless lignite coal out there that obviously makes little sense to burn so we mostly haven't yet...but hey, why not. whats lignite
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Nov 9, 2023 02:13
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JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:drain me, moon daddy
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Nov 9, 2023 02:14
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spiritual bypass posted:whats lignite brown coal. low energy value per unit of weight. bulky. dirty. using brown coal is one of the reasons power plants and steel mills would be built directly on or near coal fields. transporting brown coal makes it a loser almost immediately.
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Nov 9, 2023 02:27
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cat botherer posted:Yeah probably, given how often hunters shoot people's malamutes after mistaking them for wolves. I've had people mistake my dog for a "baby wolf" and run away in fear. I own a shiba inu.
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Nov 9, 2023 02:45
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Trabisnikof posted:yeah obviously The King is correct in the long view, but my understanding is there are a bunch of just terrible almost useless lignite coal out there that obviously makes little sense to burn so we mostly haven't yet...but hey, why not. bedpan posted:brown coal. low energy value per unit of weight. bulky. dirty. using brown coal is one of the reasons power plants and steel mills would be built directly on or near coal fields. transporting brown coal makes it a loser almost immediately. It's fine, we'll just coke it at the mine, and then suddenly it's worth transporting again. Might even coke it with microwaves powered by hydroelectricity in some places, not like we'd use that electricity for anything else!
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Nov 9, 2023 03:18
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Clean coal, it's a beautiful thing. Has a shine to it.
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Nov 9, 2023 03:20
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Lignite balls
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Nov 9, 2023 04:23
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real dark Radio Ecoshock episode this week. but the 90s vibes and nostalgia it gives off balance it out
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Nov 9, 2023 05:24
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Dokapon Findom posted:Lignite balls what's balls
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Nov 9, 2023 06:34
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ballmer-developers.wma
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Nov 9, 2023 11:58
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JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:drain me, moon daddy
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Nov 9, 2023 12:31
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Jizzny Princess posted:I've had people mistake my dog for a "baby wolf" and run away in fear. 
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Nov 9, 2023 13:13
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that’s a good kid
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Nov 9, 2023 13:37
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Mine also gets the "look mommy a wolf!" comment from time to time  
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Nov 9, 2023 14:06
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Jizzny Princess posted:I've had people mistake my dog for a "baby wolf" and run away in fear. they were right to run but wrong in thinking that they could run fast enough
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Nov 9, 2023 14:21
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r u ready to WALK posted:Mine also gets the "look mommy a wolf!" comment from time to time looks like a good post apocalyptic conpanion
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Nov 9, 2023 15:12
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TeenageArchipelago posted:now that I really think about it, I think that the last bit of hope died for me in 2020 when Bernie lost, but tbqh the past few years have shown that I believed way too much in him For me it was when Corbyn came dangerously close to becoming PM here, and the unified switch every part of the establishment and the media took from "look at this hopeless leftie" to "the most dangerous man in Britain". But I think Covid was the real crack-ping. Two centuries of increasing knowledge of how diseases spread, how to counter them, how to stop infections reaching epidemic levels, how to trace outbreaks. We had international systems in place to cope with this as epidemiologists everywhere knew a pandemic-level event was coming at some point. Here was a clear and immediate threat to human life and we could have eradicated it as quickly as it appeared, but at the expense of short-term profits. So we didn't. That's when I really understood that some vague danger decades in the future was never going to be addressed. The future doesn't exist beyond next quarter's balance sheet.
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Nov 9, 2023 15:26
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COVID was (and still is!) the ultimate crack ping bc it showed anyone with their head out of the sand that people dont give a gently caress and will normalize absolutely anything, and theyll ruthlessly antagonize anyone who dares to take the smallest precautions in a life or death situation. u become neo seeing the 1s and 0s in the matrix except they're "lol" and "lmao" There is a zero percent chance climate change gets solved or mitigated, its full speed ahead. radical acceptance is your only choice
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Nov 9, 2023 15:38
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Argentum posted:COVID was (and still is!) the ultimate crack ping bc it showed anyone with their head out of the sand that people dont give a gently caress and will normalize absolutely anything, and theyll ruthlessly antagonize anyone who dares to take the smallest precautions in a life or death situation. u become neo seeing the 1s and 0s in the matrix except they're "lol" and "lmao"
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Nov 9, 2023 15:41
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HAIL eSATA-n posted:*sigh* okay, you see this number? this one right here? it goes up. UP! not down. up! Mean surface air temperature?
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Nov 9, 2023 15:46
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Old James posted:Mean surface air temperature? https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/09/climate/global-warming-hottest-year-history-climate-intl/index.html that's right quote:“We have become all too used to climate records falling like dominoes in recent years,” David Reay, executive director of the Edinburgh Climate Change Institute at the University of Edinburgh, told CNN. “But 2023 is a whole different ball game in terms of the massive margin by which these records have been broken.”
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Nov 9, 2023 15:51
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that's right e: 
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Nov 9, 2023 15:51
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Argentum posted:COVID was (and still is!) the ultimate crack ping bc it showed anyone with their head out of the sand that people dont give a gently caress and will normalize absolutely anything, and theyll ruthlessly antagonize anyone who dares to take the smallest precautions in a life or death situation. u become neo seeing the 1s and 0s in the matrix except they're "lol" and "lmao" A few months into COVID I was feeling mighty crack-pinged and the way I described it to a friend was that there were now three existential threats facing humanity (and/or my localized bubble in the USA), which were in order of least to most threatening:
... and that the public reaction to COVID proved that all three would go exactly as poorly as I was worried about.
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Nov 9, 2023 16:00
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Rolling coal but only because I want to see a hypercane
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Nov 9, 2023 16:03
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Argentum posted:There is a zero percent chance climate change gets solved or mitigated, its full speed ahead. radical acceptance is your only choice 0% chance of any mitigation is a pretty low bar. Even China alone achieving their 5 year plan climate goals would be some mitigation. Likewise, I think this implies the current western economic system remains resilient and strong for the next few decades, because a collapse of that system would certainly be a massive mitigation in emissions.
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Nov 9, 2023 16:16
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Its like laptop cooling. The more you cool, the higher it clocks only to downclock anyway. We live in a beautiful world.
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Nov 9, 2023 16:22
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Argentum posted:COVID was (and still is!) the ultimate crack ping bc it showed anyone with their head out of the sand that people dont give a gently caress and will normalize absolutely anything, and theyll ruthlessly antagonize anyone who dares to take the smallest precautions in a life or death situation. u become neo seeing the 1s and 0s in the matrix except they're "lol" and "lmao" I honestly thought I broke about as hard as I could way back when I was still doing volunteer stuff, but COVID completely shattered me in ways that I didn't really expect. It's not just that we won't do anything, it's that we'll rip up the floorboards and tear out the copper of our society before we'll imagine for one second a world that looks slightly different than the one that we have now. Any perceived voluntary loss in quality of life will be met with the most absurd and violent overreaction imaginable.
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Nov 9, 2023 17:03
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Argentum posted:COVID was (and still is!) the ultimate crack ping bc it showed anyone with their head out of the sand that people dont give a gently caress and will normalize absolutely anything, and theyll ruthlessly antagonize anyone who dares to take the smallest precautions in a life or death situation. u become neo seeing the 1s and 0s in the matrix except they're "lol" and "lmao"
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